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WHAT WOULD YOU DO?...............Thunderhead

  Author:  15033  Category:(Discussion) Created:(9/30/2002 11:41:00 PM)
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I need to ask a question. I'll sprinkle sugar on this so I don't get a bad attitude. Okay, I come home and there on my recorder is the voice of, we'll say, "Crystal" asking that I call her as soon as I can....in a pleading voice, almost a whine.

Why is Crystal calling? 6 years ago, I was rushed to the hospital in another state, Idaho, for some injuries. Let's just say I was physically harmed. The bill totaled $300. My insurance somehow didn't get processed and I wasn't notified of this until it was turned over to collection years later. I told Crystal I was ill and wasn't expected to live long. She said she was sorry to hear that but we could probably work out some payments. I called the hospital and checked to see why they couldn't cover this bill with their insurance due to it being a crime that was committed against me. I had been assaulted.

Okay, I wait to hear something back from them and never do. However, Crystal continues to call about two and three times a week to see when I can start making payments. I recently told her I have cancer. She still calls.

(I'm taking the sugar coating off now): Is the blood sucker deaf and without a heart? Would any of you continue to ask a dieing person to set up a payment plan just because it's your job to make collections? I am about ready to drive over there and punch her in the nose!!!

I will have wonderful thoughts about her all day today....NOT!

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Date: 9/30/2002 11:51:00 PM  From Authorid: 39258    I'd drive over there and punch her in the nose.. c'mon.. it will make you feel better  
Date: 10/1/2002 12:02:00 AM  From Authorid: 14754    Tell crystal that you will pay her on the first..send her a penny on the first, and if this is not good enough for her, tell her next time that you will not put her name in the hat for next months payment...  
Date: 10/1/2002 12:14:00 AM  From Authorid: 3688    i'd tell 'em to sue me for it...honestly what are they gonna do?  
Date: 10/1/2002 12:19:00 AM  From Authorid: 28190    AngelAuntyWithTheSameMiddleName. I have no idea what I would do. But it makes me irritated thinking that she is doing you this way AND not only that, BUT knows that you are sick. That is just beyond my way of thought, to even conceive how people act this way is totally uncomprehensible to me. I wish I could help more with advice here, but I am totally clueless as to what to do. I am sorry that you have to be put through that mess too.. *shakes head in disgust of bill collectors* > *huge hugs to you* Love, Amanda  
Date: 10/1/2002 12:21:00 AM  From Authorid: 53052    they don't know if you are telling the truth of lying.. they are just told to do whatever means possible to get thier money it isn't a fun nor is it a happy job to be on either end... her job depends on getting people to pay back owed bills! they can sue or take you to court or ganish wages.. even though you may die they still have a debt what needs to be paid to thier collectors.. i know it isn't a happy thing to deal with but it's part of life... i'm just seeing in from both points of view(i have almost bro-inlaw what works for collections.. the job takes ALOT out of him)  
Date: 10/1/2002 12:23:00 AM  From Authorid: 21867    Hi Ya Honey,
Yup...I like the 'smack her in the nose' option myself...after ya finished with Crystal, go smack ya doctor in the nose too Love Ya *kiss kiss*
  
Date: 10/1/2002 12:24:00 AM  From Authorid: 53052    people are VERY negitive towards bill collectors.. BUT who made the bill in the first place.. i know your situation is rare(they often don't know what your bill is for nor how long it has been owed) but there are many many people out there who charge up many bills in many areas and choose that they just don't want to pay them and someone needs to collect thier money what is owed  
Date: 10/1/2002 12:32:00 AM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 15033    I think that's an excellent idea Tweeti sis...:-)  
Date: 10/1/2002 12:32:00 AM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 15033    Well Telsha, the thought does, but if it came to doing it, I would feel terrible...:-\ (darn it)  
Date: 10/1/2002 12:34:00 AM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 15033    I thought about that too Dreamer sis. But she would still keep calling me. I can't change my number or I would..*Hugs*  
Date: 10/1/2002 12:37:00 AM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 15033    I know Amanda...like there would be enough time to pay off the bill in payments...They could have this taken off by the hospital I already checked into it. These types of injuries are generally pardoned by the hospitals here. Why should I be a victim twice...or three times counting their harrassment?  
Date: 10/1/2002 12:40:00 AM  From Authorid: 36766    I'd knock her teeth down her throat but thats just me  
Date: 10/1/2002 12:41:00 AM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 15033    Midnightly, they know everything about it and I also gave my doctors permission to reveal my present condition. There must be a reason why bill collectors are not liked. Could it be they don't have any sympathy when poor people have been taken advantage of by hospitals and identity theft?  
Date: 10/1/2002 12:41:00 AM  From Authorid: 12581    Sometimes you have to be tough, take the sugar coating off and tell this lady just how rude she's being. Be sharp tongued and quick witted and put that stupid chica in her place girl! *HUGS* You take care!  
Date: 10/1/2002 12:43:00 AM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 15033    Oooo, thats a little harsh Baby Cakiez....that might hurt my hand.  
Date: 10/1/2002 12:45:00 AM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 15033    Hi honey, accidently skipped over ya, but I talked with you on the phone about this already....with you there on the beach...me here freezing my pattuti off....lol! *Kiss*  
Date: 10/1/2002 12:46:00 AM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 15033    hehe!! Thank you Akua...Go me, go me!!  
Date: 10/1/2002 12:48:00 AM  From Authorid: 28190    AuntyKaren, Very simply, YOU SHOULDNT be! They are very wrong with this, in fact, you could probably sue them for harrassment. The least they could do is be hospitable, and treat you right, instead of calling you 500 times a day.. I mean, seriously, She doesnt have a heart, or maybe a brain for doing this to you. GRRRR this just irritates the heck out of me. *hugs* Love, Amanda  
Date: 10/1/2002 12:48:00 AM  From Authorid: 36766    then I'll do it for ya lol they dont need to be bothering u anyways  
Date: 10/1/2002 12:56:00 AM  From Authorid: 53052    people lie to get out of bills if they had sympathy they couldn't do a job like that... and then they would go broke and banks would go broke if everyone could just take money and not pay back bills they made.. i know it's a horrid situation but even if a person passes on they still have bills what they leave behind many what still need to be paid  
Date: 10/1/2002 12:57:00 AM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 15033    Well, I think tomorrow I'm calling her superiors, Amanda, and we're going to have a little talk...:-) *loads gun*  
Date: 10/1/2002 12:58:00 AM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 15033    You can come with me then Baby Cakiez...pick you up at 9:00...  
Date: 10/1/2002 1:00:00 AM  From Authorid: 36766    okie dokie I'll be ready   
Date: 10/1/2002 1:02:00 AM  From Authorid: 28190    Give 'em Heck AuntyKaren.. Give 'em all the heck they can handle!! lol *hugs* Love, Amanda  
Date: 10/1/2002 1:02:00 AM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 15033    I don't know why you keep making a point about people lieing Midnightly...I am not a person that lies. Your comments are starting to get on my nerves. Did you read my comments up there? You are talking about Canadian laws no doubt. Here hospitals can toss these kinds of bills in the garbage and they have surplus money to cover it.  
Date: 10/1/2002 1:03:00 AM  From Authorid: 28190    HEY! Dont leave me! lol... Us, Alabama girls know how to fight.. hehe *evil grins* *hugs*  
Date: 10/1/2002 1:11:00 AM  From Authorid: 28190    I'll be at the door with Bells on! lolol ok X-nay on the bells, she will hear us coming! LMAO  
Date: 10/1/2002 1:11:00 AM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 15033    I'm swinging by there about 9:30 to get you NiecyWithTheSameMiddleName!! hehe!!!  
Date: 10/1/2002 1:19:00 AM  From Authorid: 21867    ...ahhh yes...and it was a nice warm sunny beach too...nice...WARM...and sunny. Did I mention warm and sunny??? *kiss kiss*  
Date: 10/1/2002 2:08:00 AM  From Authorid: 46527    Well....it's her job and it pays her bills, if she doesn't do it then she'll be fired. In her heart I have no doubt that she knows what she is doing is not nice BUT she probably also has to feed her kids. I think it is the company that is heartless NOT the individual.  
Date: 10/1/2002 2:34:00 AM  From Authorid: 30229    SisANGELwiththesamemiddlename... Something very similar happened to my Mom when she was sick. I will reserve telling you the story til we talk on the phone. If I were you, I would tell her to NOT call your house anymore... EVER, and if she wants to she can file suit against you, and you will hang it up in court forever.. geeeeeezzzz. . . after that then tell her to take a leap.. *grin*... Love ya!!!  
Date: 10/1/2002 2:38:00 AM  From Authorid: 30229    Better yet.. give ME the phone number and let me call them!!!!!! *evil grin*... I will tell them like I told Sears that time... never have heard another word from Sears, wonder why? hehehehe..  
Date: 10/1/2002 2:39:00 AM  From Authorid: 30229    Oh and you CAN legally tell Bill collectors to NOT call your house, and after that if they call you can sue THEM for harassment... tell her simply you ain't paying the dang thing... but I still like the idea of your giving me the phone number though.... I have such a way with these kinds of people.. *giggle*.. ... ... LOVE YA!!!!  
Date: 10/1/2002 3:22:00 AM  From Authorid: 22852    Oh Boy, OK since I was a medical bill collector for years I can tell you that what you need to do is call the hospital and tell them you CAN NOT pay this bill and explain the situation to them. Ask them to send YOU a letter saying they will "write off" the bill, then send a copy to the blood sucker, for that is indeed what she is. I worked for an oncologist when I did this work and you would not believe the bills I have gotten written off for the patients, but then it was me that went to the doctors and asked for the bill to be removed. I can suggest that you ask the blood sucker to do the calls for you. Also you can give her your insurance info again and inform her that she can resubmit the bill to them. Otherwise you can message me and I will call them on your behalf, as I know how to deal with those animals. Good Luck sweetie.  
Date: 10/1/2002 3:26:00 AM  From Authorid: 22852    Oh and another, thing by law.. if you pay them $1.00 a month, every month, they can NOT call you again because you are making an effort to pay. I had a patient who kept the ins. money and then would mail me a dollar a month and then call me every month to ask if I got the dollar, then laugh at me and hang up.. I could not do a thing about it, although that patient I wanted to strangle.. LOL  
Date: 10/1/2002 3:31:00 AM  From Authorid: 30229    Or StormSis.. she could give ME the phone number and let me handle it.. I am pretty good with stuff like that.. *evil grin*!!!! hehe  
Date: 10/1/2002 4:00:00 AM  From Authorid: 59214    ...punch her!  
Date: 10/1/2002 4:05:00 AM  From Authorid: 30747    Want me to break her legs for ya? It suxs that you have to put up with this but ya know I'm thinking that maybe she don't believe you Thunderhead. I mean she's probably thinking your just saying that to get out of your bill. She's probably heard alot of storys in her time as a collector. In any case I would get real mean on her the next time she calls and tell her to back off because what she is doing is harrassment. If that don't work then I'll find her and break her legs. *hugs*  
Date: 10/1/2002 4:13:00 AM  From Authorid: 61811    okay...punch her as hard as you can!!!  
Date: 10/1/2002 4:55:00 AM  From Authorid: 46005    Thunderhead, I was a debt collector for a few years, and YES I would have called you severalk times a week. 300 dollars isn't a whole lot of money - but maybe for you it is, you received the services, you should have to pay! If you really feel your insurance should have taken care of it, then you should have settled this years ago. Why can't you send five dollars a month - I don't want to be mean, but you have internet - you pay that bill ! I understand you were assulted, and that wasn't right to you- but is it the nurse and doctors who should pay- who don't get raises becauses thier patients think they shouldn't pay cause someone attacked them? It would aggrivate me so much when I did collections because people always have excuses why they can't pay! If you told me you couldn't pay 300 dollars, because you were dyeing, I probably would have asked you if you could leave it in your will, to pay off your debts. I would want to leave this world not oweing anyone anything!  
Date: 10/1/2002 5:04:00 AM  From Authorid: 30229    Karen, my sweet Sis... I still say, send ME that phone number and I will handle it.. hehe.. hugggggggsssss... sugar coated huggggggssssss...   
Date: 10/1/2002 5:07:00 AM  From Authorid: 23075    Do what I do when a bill collector calls....say that you wanted the pizza with anchovies on it and then hang up//stupid guy kept calling me...I told them I'd pay he said he wanted it all....I told him where he could go and what he could do with his boyfriend. LOL hahahah never called me back.
  
Date: 10/1/2002 5:25:00 AM  From Authorid: 22852    Alexanders Momma.. It is collectors like you that made my job as a collector so hard. You must NOT have read the whole post. It is NOT Karens fault that the Doctors took so long to alert her of the non payment and it is NOT her fault the collector waited so long to try and get the money. I good collector would listen to Karen and try to HELP her. And if the hospital failed to submit the bill to the insurance, then the hospital HAS to eat the bill. I never could stand when some of my fellow workers whould be as harsh as you are torward a customer. May YOU never have to deal with this problem in your life. I bet you get a lot of bonus's at your job for your collection ways. I myself never did get a bonus from my boss but I have recieved countless letters of thanks and even a dozen roses from customers whom I helped. And THAT is the kind of bonus that will stay with me forever. But to harrass people for money that they do not have is cruel. Like I said before if the Insurance had paid Karen and she did not pay then that is different but the Hospital is the one who screwed up!  
Date: 10/1/2002 5:28:00 AM  From Authorid: 30229    Amen Stormchaser!! I guess all of us who have lived past 40 have had some hard times in our lives.. and I DO think Karen could have some recourse for HARASSMENT here since she didnt know about this bill for all these years and now being harassed for it. All for the sake of a few dollars.. geeeeezzzz.... it makes my stomach turn to hear about this. NONE of this was Karen's fault and the fact that she is sick makes me think that Crystal has some sort of sickness inside her ....... that sickness that people have who LOVE to see others in pain.. This is sad..  
Date: 10/1/2002 5:32:00 AM  From Authorid: 30229    Karen, my SisANGELwiththesamemiddlename.. I am so sorry getting ugly on your post.... but remember.. just email me that number and I will take care of this for ya.. *wink*... Love ya!!!!  
Date: 10/1/2002 5:32:00 AM  From Authorid: 22852    Yes Gail, it is sad and sick indeed. I really hope Karen lets me help her with this one. I am so angry right now at some of the things being said here.  
Date: 10/1/2002 5:34:00 AM  From Authorid: 30229    So am I StormChaser, so mad and so sick to my stomach that there really ARE people who have no heart at all, who dont care anymore about their fellow man than to just send nasty messages to sick people. I am sick that any of this happened in the first place and sicker still that people have to come on a SICK persons post and talk to her like that... where does it end? WHERE and WHEN do we wake up and realize that there is more to life than money, and the feelings and friendship I have with Karen means far more than a mere $300 hospital bill... God I am glad I am ME...  
Date: 10/1/2002 5:44:00 AM  From Authorid: 22852    I am glad you are you too I guess that is why I like you so much. Maybe the other persons hormones are out of whack? I don't know but to write what she did will only hurt Karen (and she knows that it would, I think that is what really has me so mad.) it is a good thing I do not have the power of Admin or I would have removed those replies.. Uggg my blood is boiling.  
Date: 10/1/2002 5:47:00 AM  From Authorid: 30229    Mine too StormSis... mine too. I think the entire posting WAS intentional to cause pain, and to me that is about as low as people can sink... maybe a good hearted Admin WILL come along and delete all the idiotic replies and save Karen the pain of it.. ya know? Awwwww, StormSis.. I think you are awesome too.. and maybe between the two of us we can get Crystal off of Karen..   
Date: 10/1/2002 5:53:00 AM  From Authorid: 30229    One more thing I would like to add and that is about Sears... My mom bought a refrigerator from Sears nearly a year before she was diagnosed with Cancer. We all were having problems working and taking care of my Mom and I had 3 young kids to feed too so I could only sporadically make her payments for her. WEll I wont go into the nasty conversation from the Sears lady to my Mother, but I will say that when I got through talking to her that I never heard ONE more word from Sears, and that darn frige is still sitting in my Kitchen. In short, I told them to come get it because they would NOT be getting another penny from my Mom or from me either... but I wasnt that nice.. hehehe..  
Date: 10/1/2002 5:53:00 AM  From Authorid: 22852    Hehehe, "Crystal" wouldn't know what hit her.. ROFL  
Date: 10/1/2002 5:56:00 AM  From Authorid: 51393    Oh,oh what is happening in this post?  
Date: 10/1/2002 6:14:00 AM  From Authorid: 46515    I'd ignore the idiots call and hang up on her. (I agree with Gail, StormChaser and all the kind people)  
Date: 10/1/2002 6:29:00 AM  From Authorid: 24856    Ask for HER immediate supervisor or the head of the hospital.....there is no excuse for her behavior!  
Date: 10/1/2002 6:30:00 AM  From Authorid: 58308    Thunder, If it's not one thing, it's another. I would call and talk to whomever it is that is over her. She is harrassing you by calling as much as she does. There is a law against harrassment and she's breaking it. I don't care if the ding-bat has a job to do... she's harrassing you. *Let me at her! Let me at her!* Hugs! Zeeboette  
Date: 10/1/2002 6:36:00 AM  From Authorid: 15228    I think that all you have to do is tell the collection agency that you do not want them calling you and they have to obey that due to the law or something. Has anyone else ever heard of this, or am I completly wrong??  
Date: 10/1/2002 6:50:00 AM  From Authorid: 40881    Well... *grins* if it was me... I would answer the phone in a diffrent type of voice the next time she called. When she asked if you were home..I'd say,.. "Who is this??" "Crystal." she would say "Sorry.. she passed away this morning..she had a grin on her face just moments before she faded away,... when I asked her what she was thinking she whispered.."tell Crystal I'm going to make a special trip to her house tonight..to give back some of the KINDNESS she has given to me... *SMILES* ..lol.. either that or just mess with her head and have fun everytime she calls.. start saying every word she says until she hangs up, or..tell her you hired a PI and he found out where she lived, if she keeps calling you are going to start bothering her at her house..lol..sorry to ramble, but I'd have fun with that woman..Don't let her get to you. She's the one thats heartless, her payback will come around. love&hugz  
Date: 10/1/2002 7:03:00 AM  From Authorid: 40881    OMG! I just was skimming through the comments to your post thunderhead!! I totaly agree with what Gail& Storm said... excpt for what Gail said about an admin deleting the nasty comments.. I hope the comments stay up.. so EVERYONE can see what type of people we are dealing with on this site.. I'm sorry for what was said.. This is your post so I won't get nasty in it.. but If I could reach through the computer, someone would have me to deal with,.. Love ya sweetie.  
Date: 10/1/2002 7:15:00 AM  From Authorid: 600    Ya know, after reading some of the "heartless" responses on here, I literally started shaking. Which is odd for me to have such a strong reaction to mere words typed on the internet. I have a story to add.......My aunt, who was only 46, committed suicide a year ago. Her bill collectors somehow got our phone number. (My mother lives with us due to her failing health), but due to her being the emergency contact on my aunt's medical records she was the first one notified about my aunt's medical bills. She told the "bill" collector that my aunt had died, AND sent a copy of the death certificate. They then called and asked my mother to settle my aunt's bill! My mother is 100% disabled, on medicare/medicaid... Now, I don't give a crap what kind of bonus the bill collector would be receiving, or whether or not the bill was owed. That was WRONG, just as the whole situation with Karen is WRONG! Jesus! Sometimes it just doesn't pay to get online. Furthermore, you can't tell me that a 300$ bill is going to make or break the facility that Karen was treated at. AND, if they failed to file the insurance claim, it's theirs to EAT! Enough said! Karen, I love ya, and right now I'm thinking the sudden mood I'm finding myself in could be a benefit. Give ME her number.......  
Date: 10/1/2002 7:27:00 AM  From Authorid: 12806    I know how you feel Karen, about 7 years ago, my wife had a mis-carriage. We went to the hospital and they performed a DNC. I had insurance at the time and my premium was paid up.......... Three years later, we were living in Colorado, and got a notice in the mail that we were being sued for collection of a $3,000.00 bill that the insurance company didn't pay. I told them that my insurance at the time was supposed to pay the bill. They told me that the insurance company was no longer liable for the bill because three years had passed (the exact amount of time allowed by law). I asked them why they didn't contact me sooner, and they said that I wasn't responsible for it until now... I asked them "why" they didn't contact the insurance company, and they said, "they won't return our phone calls."...... To make a long story short, I had to make arrangements to pay them thirty dollars a month for TEN YEARS. I have about 6 years to go.... It has also done horrible things to my credit........ Collection agents are heartless, they are taught that we are not real people, and at best, if we are not paying our bills then we are "scum" anyways...... I called the state insurance board in Colorado once to ask why they charged more money for insurance if you had let your insurance lapse (not kept continual coverage). They told me that "according to their PROFILING, people who let their insurance lapse were most likely alcoholics and drug addicts who spend all of their money on such things instead of the important things like INSURANCE." He went on to tell me that it was HIS assumption that I was an alcoholic, my wife was probably a prostitute and that my children will end up on drugs and probably in jail...... I was furious and hung up the phone.... When I got my composure back, I called and asked to speak to someone in charge.... I then complained about the verbal accusation that I had just received.... After remaining on "hold" for about thirty minutes (on MY dime) he came back and said that no-one there remembered speaking to me. I insisted that they had. He asked me if I had a recording of the conversation... I said, "NO"...... He promptly hung up on me........... Sorry, but I had to vent.... Much love and hugs.........  
Date: 10/1/2002 7:28:00 AM  From Authorid: 59418    she sounds rather um heartless. u shouldnt have to go through this. Im sorry sum ppl will do anything to get their money..metal princess  
Date: 10/1/2002 7:35:00 AM  From Authorid: 61790    Midnightly has a point-and it has nothing to do with you lying or not author. What he/she s trying to say is that they treat people like that because they have little choice. Most people will do nearly anything to get out of paying bills, so they have to play it as mean as they can.  
Date: 10/1/2002 7:49:00 AM  From Authorid: 20104    I hate those people. They are bloodsuckers!!!!!! I would not answer her calls and maybe she will leave you alone.  
Date: 10/1/2002 8:40:00 AM  From Authorid: 53900    I would hang up on her when I hear her voice she will get the message eventually...but I would defenitely not her stress me out. Someone once told me that bill collecters get paid a comission for all money they collect and so as heartless as it sounds it is the money that they care about not the person it coems from. Just do not worry about it anymore she will stop calling eventually or you could just tell her to take you to court if she is so worried about the money.  
Date: 10/1/2002 9:54:00 AM  From Authorid: 56715    Hi Thunderhead..I can believe bill collecters would act like this..Just 2 weeks ago my nephew was in a very BAD car accident and severed his spine..He is 18 and will never walk again..Well that Friday, 3 days later, he had a ticket due for something..I called the following week and told them I know his license was to be susspended if it wasn't paid..I explained what happened and that he was not yet even consious and still fighting for his life, could we come pay the ticket in a week or so...She said sorry they will suspend the licence until someone comes in and pays the ticket..How heartless. I know you guys probably are thinking, well what does he ned a licence for if he will never walk again, but it is just the point..We didn't want that as something else for him to be upset about..so I am so sorry for you that this lady is so incensitive, but unfortunately they do not give a crap about any circumstances like this..I hope soon you can get rid of her and would not blame you for going down and punching her in the face...Have a wonderful day, hugs to you.....  
Date: 10/1/2002 9:59:00 AM  From Authorid: 42792    I would just totally ignore her asking for money and really freak her out. Ask her how she is feeling and how her day is going. DO it repeatedly until she thinks that you are insane and she will be too scared to bother you again:-)  
Date: 10/1/2002 10:18:00 AM  From Authorid: 50435    I can't even believe some of the things that have been said in response to this post. I'm not gonna touch it. Have some tact, will ya?...  
Date: 10/1/2002 10:29:00 AM  From Authorid: 17417    Hey Thunder can you just send them your "Pattuti" seems thats what they are looking for anyway ...OMGosh I can't believe I just said dat LOL LOL LOL...Yep I did and I not sorrrrrry edda LOL LOL :P...I am Armed Thunder just give me da Word OK Baby ?...Much Love In Spirit,  
Date: 10/1/2002 12:14:00 PM  From Authorid: 23075    And no she can't sue for harrassment...however once you ask them to stop calling...they must...or you can get the collectors license number and their supervisor thenw rite and they must honor your request...and apparently they can call you as many times a day as they want...so I've been told.....but normally they call only once or twice....just hang up on them..they'll stop calling...the turnover for collectors is unreal it is like telemarketing..if they don't get any money they send your file to another collector or collection agency and so on.and Alexander's Momma...that was pretty harsh saying dying is no reason........Thunderhead didn't ask to get sick..and it isn't her fault her insurance didn't pay it for whatever reason.....  
Date: 10/1/2002 1:19:00 PM  From Authorid: 30229    *rolls eyes*... disagreeing?? I think it went FAR deeper than that... enough said!!!!  
Date: 10/1/2002 1:22:00 PM  From Authorid: 59960    Its their job to call and ask for payments but I think after you told them your situation they should have at least cut the calls back some. Calling 2 or 3 times a week is crazy. I'm sorry you have to go through this. I'm sure you have more important things to worry about then some d*** bill collectors. They are really shallow people if you ask me especially seeing as in how your were the one who was attacked in the first place. I don't think you should have to pay for it...it wasn't like you had a choice to go there or not. *~*SinistarEdge*~*  
Date: 10/1/2002 1:29:00 PM  ( Admin-JGB )   A.M you actually said "I bet she has even thought about paying the mesely 300 dollars for you just to not have to hear the lame excuses anymore!" As if karens "excuse" was "Lame" ... that is not disagreeing, that purposefully making it personal and rude. Do you not see how it could be taken that way?
Date: 10/1/2002 2:46:00 PM  ( C-Admin )   Kindly remember that personal attacks are not allowed on this site. If you have something to say do so in a respectful manner.
Date: 10/1/2002 2:49:00 PM  From Authorid: 53052    i am not trying ot be rude and get on your nerves... i'm trying to see it from both sides not just the one side i'm not saying you are a lier far far from that... i am just stating that the person's job on the phone is to get some sort of payment and people do often lie to the person on the phone.. it's very very common  
Date: 10/1/2002 3:52:00 PM  From Authorid: 12341    Heartless and cruel, and not just Crystal from the collection agency either. Hospitals can and do write off large amounts all the time. Doctors with staff priveledges at hospitals do lots of staff calls on monthly rotations where they work and serve and write off the bills. This is a case that went too far, it should have been settled before collection but some hospitals do things like this. I don't care where you work, if someone says they are dying, and offer to validate that information through their Doctor, that bill should be marked uncollectible. This is what sets humans apart from animals, the ability to have and show compassion. To have the integrity to take that extra small step. Regardless, she should not be calling you at home, if they want to sue then let them sue. Sooner or later people like Crystal need a big dose of compassion themselves. Doing your job is one thing, sounds like she loves the fringe benefit of bringing more heartache to someone who already has more than most could bear. I would also be glad to help you take care of this Sis. Just say the word.  
Date: 10/1/2002 6:02:00 PM  From Authorid: 2030    *Hugs* Dang, am a part of the same human race as some people? *Hugs again* Thunderhead it's not something you need to be worrying about at this time. PM me their address, I'LL send em the darn money.  
Date: 10/1/2002 6:41:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 15033    I appreciate all of the offers :-) thanks to USM I have kept my grip on the belief in decent people. That's just been reinforced. But I think I now have a better idea as to what my options due to some of the comments here. That's all I was really looking for, even though I kinda made a joke of it. I don't quite understand why my comment was deleted and not a certain other person's. Oh well, must have been something in there that went against the rules...Love you all!!  
Date: 10/2/2002 1:15:00 AM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 15033    One more thing, I am really puzzled by this...I went and took a look around on her past posts and on every one I commented to, I was very polite, kind, and even supportive when she needed sympathy....how easily some forget.  
Date: 10/2/2002 3:11:00 AM  From Authorid: 30747    *rereading my response* I hope you and others didn't find my response insensitive Thunderhead. I was only playing devils advocate presuming what the bill collector MIGHT have thought. It's not what I think at all. My offer to break her legs if she bothers you again still stands. *hugs*  
Date: 10/2/2002 5:46:00 AM  From Authorid: 46005    Thunderhead, I just want to say Im sorry --- and I appraoched it wrong. You have always been nice to me, that is true, and I think you are a great person. I don't have any excuses as to why I acted the way I did, I just want to say I'm sorry -  
Date: 10/2/2002 3:54:00 PM  From Authorid: 33925    *sigh*..I see my comment here was deleted Sis..sorry...I will only repeat the part that was directed at you and leave the other part directed at certain others out...In Canada if you put in writing that you do not wish to hear from the Collection Agency again they must abide by your wishes and stop contacting you...I wonder if the same thing can be done where you live?? I love you Sis and I would GLADLY pay that bill for you if I could do it!!  
Date: 10/2/2002 10:17:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 15033    I made another post with what happened after this post. Hope you all read it. Thanks you everyone. And AM, it's okay, you were probably having a bad hair day or something...:-) (((Hugs)))  
Date: 10/4/2002 1:39:00 AM  From Authorid: 50791    Next time she calls, act completely stupid like you have no idea in the world who the heck she is and why she would be calling you! LOL!  
Date: 2/20/2007 6:44:00 PM  From Authorid: 19586    I never understood why people need to be nasty in their replies.  

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