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Gypsies and othe traveling people

  Author:  50864  Category:(Interesting) Created:(9/23/2002 6:24:00 PM)
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Gypsies" in the United States Several groups, all known to outsiders as "Gypsies," live today in the United States. In their native languages, each of the groups refers to itself by a specific name, but all translate their self-designations as "Gypsy" when speaking English. Each had its own cultural, linguistic, and historical tradition before coming to this country, and each maintains social distance from the others.





Rom

The Rom arrived in the United States from Serbia, Russia and Austria-Hungary beginning in the 1880's, part of the larger wave of immigration from southern and eastern Europe in the late 19th and early 20th centuries. Primary immigration ended, for the most part, in 1914, with the beginning of the First World War and subsequent tightening of immigration restrictions (Salo and Salo 1986). Many people in this group specialized in coppersmith work, mainly the repair and retinning of industrial equipment used in bakeries, laundries, confectioneries, and other businesses. The Rom, too, developed the fortune-telling business in urban areas.

Two subgroups of the Rom, the Kalderash ("coppersmith") and Machwaya ("natives of Machva," a county in Serbia) appear in the photographs in Carlos de Wendler-Funaro's collection. De Wendler-Funaro identified some, but not all, Kalderash as "Russian Gypsies." Another group he identified as "Russian Gypsies" seem to be the Rusniakuria ("Ruthenians"), musicians and singers who settled in New York.



Ludar

The Ludar, or "Romanian Gypsies," also came to the United States during the great immigration from southern and eastern Europe between 1880 and 1914. Most of the Ludar came from northwestern Bosnia. Upon their arrival in the United States they specialized as animal trainers and showpeople, and indeed passenger manifests show bears and monkeys as a major part of their baggage. Most of de Wendler-Funaro's photographs of this group were taken in Maspeth, a section of the borough of Queens in New York City, where the Ludar created a "village" of homemade shacks that existed from about 1925 to 1939, when it was razed. A similar settlement stood in the Chicago suburbs during the same period.

Romnichels

The Romnichels, or English Gypsies, began to come to the United States from England in 1850. Their arrival coincided with an increase in the demand for draft horses in agriculture and then in urbanization, and many Romnichels worked as horse-traders. After the rapid decline in the horse trade following the First World War, most Romnichels relied on previously secondary enterprises, "basket-making," including the manufacture and sale of rustic furniture, and fortune-telling. Horse and mule trading continued to some extent in southern states where poverty and terrain slowed the adoption of tractor power (Salo and Salo 1982).



"Black Dutch"

Gypsies from Germany, whom de Wendler-Funaro refers to as Chikkeners (Pennsylvania German, from the German Zigeuner), sometimes refer to themselves as "Black Dutch." They are few in number and claim to have largely assimilated into Romnichel culture. They are represented in de Wendler-Funaro's photographs by a few portraits of one old man and briefly referred to in the manuscript "In Search of the Last Caravan."



Hungarian Gypsies

Hungarian musicians also came to this country with the eastern European immigration. In the United States they continued as musicians to the Hungarian and Slovak immigrant settlements.

Countless gypsies were sluaghtered by Hitlar and the Nazis in the name of racial cleansning I find this so sad They were treated much the same as the Jewish of that time for the same reasons fear and ignorence



We also have groups know as Irish and Scottish Travelers.. The recently arrested Monster Mom is a part of the Irish Travlers Aka as Tinkers

Irish Travelers

The Irish Travelers immigrated, like the Romnichels, from the mid to late nineteenth century. The Irish Travelers specialized in the horse and mule trade, as well as in itinerant sales of goods and services; the latter gained in importance after the demise of the horse and mule trade. The literature also refers to this group as Irish Traders or, sometimes, Tinkers. Their ethnic language is referred to in the literature as Irish Traveler Cant.

Harper's ethnographic and sociolinguistic studies and Andereck's in the sociology of education are the few serious studies of this group. The popular literature on Irish Travelers includes articles in Catholic periodicals.

Scottish Travelers

The present population of Scottish Travelers in North America also dates from about 1850, although the 18th-century transportation records appear to refer to this group. Unlike that of the other groups, Scottish Traveler immigration has been continuous. Also unlike the other groups, Scottish Travelers have continued to travel between Scotland and North America, as well as between Canada and the United States, after immigration. Scottish Travelers also engaged in horse trading, but since the first quarter of the 20th century have specialized in itinerant sales and services. With the exception of one researcher's master's and doctoral theses and material culture studies, the literature on this group consists almost wholly of warnings to prospective consumers accompanied by information, derived from consumer protection agency records, of doubtful accuracy.

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I just wanted to provide some info on this culture before rumors started to swirl. I find their culture fasinating.

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Date: 9/23/2002 6:38:00 PM  From Authorid: 14780    awesome Info...absolutely awesome!!!! when I read of the different kinds of gypsies my heart races...there caravans.. OMG are beautful...I was a gypsy in a past life and I feel so trapped in this life..I will oneday when my kids are grown..travel just like the gypsies...  
Date: 9/23/2002 6:49:00 PM  From Authorid: 47699    I ordered and paid for something to eat at a gypsy lunch wagon once but before I got my food, they had moved on to the next town. Go figure...  
Date: 9/23/2002 8:29:00 PM  From Authorid: 57452    It is fascinating to an extent. I do not find marrying off 16year olds to 50year old men in a pre-arranged marriage to be suitable at all. ther are a few other things that are not good. Like haveing ten different alias'. Using those alias to do harm to themselves or others. Thank you for sharing.  
Date: 9/23/2002 8:30:00 PM  From Authorid: 57452    Lol with ¤Frankenstein!¤..{;->  
Date: 10/13/2002 11:32:00 AM  From Authorid: 8726    great post.  

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