Date: 9/22/2002 5:32:00 PM
From Authorid: 55592
This incident was ver disturbing. I don't understand how her family could cover up for her. Even if she only did it that one time. That is one time too many.  |
Date: 9/22/2002 5:34:00 PM
From Authorid: 61811
that woman shouldn't have gotten bail! jackie  |
Date: 9/22/2002 5:37:00 PM
From Authorid: 26321
I cannot stand that woman ! I wish someone would beat her up in jail . Shaking a kid causes severe brain damage !  Razzy aka  |
Date: 9/22/2002 5:49:00 PM
From Authorid: 1799
good god...she should be in jail for doing that..GRR.  |
Date: 9/22/2002 5:54:00 PM
From Authorid: 12341
They always WHINE after they get caught. She would still be beating the girl if she hadn't been caught. Normal people don't hit kids like that. She died her hair? Someone should pull it out and show her how it feels.  |
Date: 9/22/2002 5:54:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 19927
i agree ordinary  |
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Date: 9/22/2002 5:54:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 19927
you're right jackie i totally agree |
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Date: 9/22/2002 5:55:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 19927
i know razzy...lets just be thankful the little girl is okay!! |
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Date: 9/22/2002 5:55:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 19927
i agree emi!! |
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Date: 9/22/2002 5:57:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 19927
SG..yep she dyed her hair to a dark color. She claims that she hit her kid out of anger..but she also stated that she will do ANYTHING for her baby girl...this woman is messed up |
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Date: 9/22/2002 6:05:00 PM
From Authorid: 12341
She can say anything CC, I think I even believe she would do anything for her, but what happens to her when anger she can't manage causes her daughter to be a target of that anger. Again these people do make me sick, I don't care how bad they feel after they are caught, she needs to feel remorse and hopefully what she did will stay with her long enough and the repercussion of being caught, that she never hits another child. Little children have no defense, often no help from family members, too often child abuse is done secretly. This woman is unfortunately, only one that got caught. Everyone needs to stay aware and report possible child abuse. |
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Date: 9/22/2002 6:16:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 19927
i totally agree SG! I've also heard somewhere that she is charged for shoplifting....but wouldn't she be kept in jail for that then??? |
Date: 9/22/2002 6:45:00 PM
From Authorid: 16069
People take it easy on this woman. Yes, I definently agree that she was wrong. Yes, she needs help. But believe me this woman will live with this for the rest of her life. People are now going to judge her and she'll be known as an evil woman for years to come. Child abuse is nothing new, it happens everyday. It could be happening right next door to you. This girl is being punished worse than any other child abuser. She now has to deal with the public. Happy now? Because I know for a fact that everybody else here at USM is PERFECT, right? You never did a thing to be ashamed of, now did you? I didnt think so. (Right) Think about the worst thing you ever did in your life. How would you feel if the world all knew about it and never let you forget about it? No, Im not a child abuser and I definently feel for the little girl. I have a daughter the same age. Its not our job to judge her.  |
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Date: 9/22/2002 6:50:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 19927
i know she is going through tons of humiliation right now...and people down her street will pass by her house with disgusted looks on their faces! |
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Date: 9/22/2002 6:50:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 19927
AMEN to that SRM! |
Date: 9/22/2002 6:50:00 PM
From Authorid: 19586
Everyone is making great points. Seeing what that woman did made my blood boil. No cild deserves that  |
Date: 9/22/2002 6:50:00 PM
From Authorid: 49914
i hope they throw the book at her. the witch deserves what she gets. i think the only reason she crying is that shes sorry she got caught. i hope the beat the crap out of her is she gets sent to jail.  |
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Date: 9/22/2002 6:51:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 19927
ICU..it just breaks my heart! |
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Date: 9/22/2002 7:20:00 PM
From Authorid: 12341
I am not perfect but I am not a pedofile, child abuser, rapist, killer, robber, or shoplifter either. And I will judge these people and hold them accountable for their actions. I could care less about their sob stories and the people that hold their hand and whine for their pity. Sorry but my feelings are ONLY for the child and watching the beating she took, I'm sure she got plenty more where that came from. I do live by certain standards, I expect no less from others, but if that isn't possible, at least be decent enough to not think child abuse is just something to be ashamed of. It is a crime against a person, in this case, a child, which makes it far worse. I will judge her actions because I do care and I'm sick of kids being abused and their parents being coddeled. Remember Andrea Yates, but let's not judge her, she isn't responsible. Will someone please tell me who the heck is responsible? Saying child abuse is nothing new and happens everywhere could be happening next door is lame. If it is and I know about it, I am going to report it. Not hold the abuser's hand. People should JUDGE child abuse. Judge whether it will be acceptable in our society and judge what is being done to stop it and judge if our lawmakers are bringing the appropriate justice forth to match what these childbeaters deserve. And please don't anyone tell me it's not my job, to judge. Maybe not, but when my gut wrenches thinking about a child being beaten, kicked, or starved, and I can't sleep thinking about it, I feel I have every right to judge anyone who does or causes such an act that affects the sensibilities of others. Just look at all the posts for agreement on this issue. |
Date: 9/22/2002 7:22:00 PM
From Authorid: 29112
that woman is messed up  |
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Date: 9/22/2002 8:58:00 PM
From Authorid: 52690
"My entire family is paying for my mistake"?!?! Weren't they lying to police?? "I would lay down my life for her"?!?! Why didn't she just not smack and punch her own child?!?! "I was upset at nothing in particular"?!?! Then her daughter received this beating over nothing?? I'd hate to see if it were over something!! I love her giving child advice, "take a couple of breaths", I knew that before she did any of this. I love the way the first thing these abusers say is "They're punishing my child".....No, that's what YOU did the minute you laid hands on your own child. Your child is being rewarded by being taken away from you! YOU are the one who is going to be punished! I could go on but I better not, now where's my squishy ball and happy place?!? |
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Date: 9/22/2002 9:05:00 PM
From Authorid: 52690
*and the minute she looked over her shoulder and began to pummel her own child was the minute she put herself into the public spectra. She brought herself into my living room! You think I wanted to see her beating her own child?? If the press had not ran that tape she never would have turned herself in out of pure guilt. Every judgement she gets she deserves. She put herself where she is not me or the guy up the street or my neighbors or the lady in California who witnessed this! Her lawyer was on TV before she even turned herself in! The police would have merely said yes she turned herself in. |
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Date: 9/22/2002 9:25:00 PM
From Authorid: 12341
I agree 52690, I will never understand someone who makes a comment asking me if I think I'm perfect and if I'm happy because this woman is being punished for beating her child. I may not be perfect but I don't condone or endorse child abuse and let the punishment fit the crime. Something's wrong when people feel the need to try and make others feel bad because they do JUDGE and hold standards for society to live by. |
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Date: 9/22/2002 9:51:00 PM
From Authorid: 52690
couldn't have said it better myself shadow! I should feel bad because I know PUNCHING my child in the head or anywhere on her physical being is a big NO_NO? I think not, and I hope to God that if I were ever caught doing something like that I would be judged as a horrible all around human being. She knew what she was about to do by looking around the parking lot. It was pre-meditated. Her sister is an accessory to it by lying to police by saying it wasn't as bad as it looked and that she was "brushing crumbs off of the car seat" and for not coming to the aid of that child. That ends it for me with both of them right there. |
Date: 9/23/2002 6:13:00 AM
From Authorid: 20016
yea like i'm going to take HER advice on how to manage anger! lol she is so concerned about who has her child...i don't get that at all. why in the world would anyone want to bail her out of jail after doing something like that to a child???  |
Date: 9/23/2002 9:12:00 AM
From Authorid: 28363
Sick, sick, sick, to abuse a child like that (period)  |
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Date: 9/23/2002 9:15:00 AM
From Authorid: 16069
ShadowGhost, Thanks for knocking some sence into me. I thought about all of this a lot. If the woman had that much anger in her, she was responsiable for getting herself help. What upsets me is hearing other people say how theyd love to beet her up. Too me, thats making them no better than that woman. |
Date: 9/23/2002 10:08:00 AM
From Authorid: 17275
I saw the video tape on the news. I am glad she turned herself in and hope she gets some parenting and anger management so there won't be anymore of these episodes!  |
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Date: 9/23/2002 11:55:00 AM
From Authorid: 52690
Love, If you saw a child or an animal being hit and punched like that what would you do? Hopefully you try to physically get that person to stop. If you had witnessed even 15 seconds of this beating you don't think it would enrage you to the point of wanting to harm the mother? Especially given the fact that the child was STRAPPED into her carseat for a portion of this beating. She was 4 to begin with and then for the last part of her beating she was strapped into her carseat. Talk about overpowering and intimadation, even if that child had a habit of fighting back she had no chance to do so once she was strappped in. It's like tying a dog to a tree and hitting it with a really long stick. There is no fight. She trusted her mom and her mom broke that trust and bond the minute she raised her hand to her. At least the people here who want a few minutes alone with that woman want it with a grown woman. I don't even want her restrained. Just myself and her in a locked room. I have a 5 year old and I know it can push you the edge of sanity sometimes. It never occurred to me to do this to her on those days. As a parent I am horrified at this display of rage. So, forgive me if I want to give Madelyne what she gave her daughter. A severe, merciless, beating. |
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Date: 9/23/2002 9:21:00 PM
From Authorid: 12341
LOA, I would never beat anyone up, however, if i had witnessed this, I would have stopped her, restrained her, any way that I could have, and reported her. I will always take a stand against child abuse. Shaken babies, beaten babies, babies that have been hurt so bad that my own faith and all that I believed in were lost to me. I will never understand how anyone can bring suffering to a child. Every case I've ever known about, seen through my work, read about, or heard about, has brought me to a point in my life where I will always advocate against child abuse. When someone becomes that angry, they need to punch a wall, or a door, anything but a child. |
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Date: 9/24/2002 6:01:00 PM
From Authorid: 16069
52690, I dont have it in me to hit another person. If I saw this happening, Id yell at her to stop, if she didnt stop, Id try to restain her or get in the middle so that she'd be hitting me rather than the little girl. Then again, I was never in the situation, so I cant tell for sure what I would do. |
Date: 9/29/2002 9:04:00 PM
From Authorid: 16705
she had no reason whatsoever to beat that child, if she was angry hit the car or a tree or something not that precious angel that the good LORD gave her. she is wrong and she should pay for it, her anger came from somewhere and that is why they won't give the child to a family member until they check out the family history. Hamb918  |
Date: 10/7/2002 10:10:00 PM
From Authorid: 15279
She needs help, at least this woman was caught. I hope that she learned to count to twn but who knows how often she beat her kid...this time she was caught. I hope Martha gets theraoy too.  |
