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I'm so peeved right now! ARRRRRRGGHHHHHH!!!!!!!! by Kaja aka Queen Crazy

  Author:  15675  Category:(Discussion) Created:(9/22/2002 5:01:00 PM)
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Okay I just gotta get this off my chest or I'll scream!!! Just for starters I'm white, I rap, and I'm a girl. Well I can't write music but I can write lyrics. I had December 27th as my date to go record at a recording studio. It was and is going to be a four song demo: 2 rap songs both original, and 2 covers of pop songs. Well, well, well. For my Yule present Grandma and mommy were going to pay $200 so a man in flordia (associated with this studio) could write some music to my 2 songs. I can't write music well and its hard for me and I dont know anyone. Well I've been told I rap good and I believe I do! My grandma called me tonight and I asked her to call the guy at the recording studio and make sure the guy in flordia can write rap music. Well, well, well.... The guy just says he dont think so because rap is 'black people music' and I had to send him a CD of my rap to 'make sure she has talent because some people dont have lyrical or singing/rapping skills and they wanted to make sure then he will check with 'local artist' and see if they could write music up to it.' Well okay grandma calls back and tells me this so I'm like 'okay he dont think I can rap well I'll show him' Then I remember I need instrumentals to the two cover songs and asked grandma to call him back about that. Well he says 'hes not dealing with rap, hes had bad experinces before with it, rap is on its way out (yet eve, eminem, nelly are on the top of the charts....), and I quote "once a girl came in to do a rap for her grandma and it was a gospel rap and she just did it for her grandma but if shed done it for 'signing' purposes she wouldnt have made it because 'it wasnt that good'".' Well now I'm fuming mad. The jist of this conversation (which my grandma wrote down so she could tell me word for word) was that a girl cant rap and a white girl shouldnt because its 'black people music.' The guy said if I did pop and sung and I could actually sing then to send a preview demo to him and he'd listen to it and help out further because record labels are looking for 'original singers who can write music and lyrics' not 'rap which is fading out.' ARGH I want to smack that guy! There are no white female rappers out there and one is signed and debuting this Janurary but shes the only one. I know rap will help me out. Sorry I just had to rant. What do u think of this jerk? Also Im not racist please dont think I am I think rap has no color and that guy is a jerk/racist.-Kaja aka Queen Crazy

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Date: 9/22/2002 5:05:00 PM  From Authorid: 13969    Kaja, I know just how you feel. I"ve run into so many dead walls with my own music business. Remember Pink? She had to compromise her style...when she hit big, she got to change and do what she wanted. So don't give up. kaja, you may have to compromise what you do a little bit, but in the end if you have the will power and determination you will get where you want to be, and doing what you want to do. By the way, I can write music...so if you need any help...  
Date: 9/22/2002 5:06:00 PM  From Authorid: 18887    dont feel bad i know how that is. im sorry this guy is being a jerk  
Date: 9/22/2002 5:08:00 PM  From Authorid: 44850    well . . . for what it's worth, a white female rapper is EXACTLY what the rapping producers are looking for, HOWEVER, they are going to be looking for someone to do it PERFECTLY (as to not look like that token white girl) .... this guy obviously has no idea what he is doing, especcially if he only charges 200 dollars . . . hon, my best advice . . . call some local d.j.'s and have them spin a few samples for you, no need to hit the studio yet, rapping over samples in shows will get ya a kick start . . . then, after you have a little bit of cred, get yourself a good d.j. that you have worked with, and a decent producer, and THEN get in the studio . . . if you need any other help, let me know (alot of my friends are involved with music, i am in a band, and well, i know a bit about the music industry itself *a bit, not alot, but enough to possibly help*)  
Date: 9/22/2002 5:10:00 PM  From Authorid: 50864    That really really stinks Kaja. And he is the racist one I did not know that any music had a race. If that were true rock and roll as we know it would have never been. Elvis The Beatles and Hollies to name a few of the early ones were based on Rythm and Blues in fact in England The Hollies were billed as a "blue eyed soul band" That is just so wrong to assume there is no market for white female rappers if anything I think that they are badly needed. What a creep. But Kaja keep in mind the Beatles were rejected by Decca just before they hit the big time after Brian Epstien took a chance on them Keep searching you will find someone to help you  
Date: 9/22/2002 5:12:00 PM  From Authorid: 50193    That sucks. We rappers need to unite, lol  
Date: 9/22/2002 5:17:00 PM  From Authorid: 44850    mrs. strider, you are 100% correct, music has no race . . . UNFORTUNATELY . . . marketing does.   
Date: 9/22/2002 5:18:00 PM  From Authorid: 50864    and todays marketing stinks by today's standards so many past greats would not have a chance sad really sad  
Date: 9/22/2002 5:20:00 PM  From Authorid: 44850    oh, very true . . . if it wasn't for the big companies . . . soooo many good bands would get a chance . . . thank goodness for indie rock.  
Date: 9/22/2002 5:22:00 PM  From Authorid: 53052    isn't nelly white(born and raised Victoria BC) isn't pink a white female rapper?? rap is falling a little less out of mainstream yes you can always go to someone else to help you get your demo or music.. have you asked any friends of anyone on here if they will help you out with writing the music.. i'm sure we must have some really talented people on here who can write music..  
Date: 9/22/2002 5:22:00 PM  From Authorid: 50864    indeed indeed I am so gratful for all the wonderful stuff I got to enjoy way back when and to think that today Neil Young would have been rejected man the music I would have missed  
Date: 9/22/2002 5:23:00 PM  From Authorid: 44850    LOL, i don't think nelly is white . . . maybe nelly furtado (sp?) ... and pink, rapping? i guess, you could kinda call it that ...  
Date: 9/22/2002 5:25:00 PM  From Authorid: 53052    i must add the music industry is harder to get into then the acting industry and we all have an how hard that is!! work hard.. these frustrations are only the start of more frustrations...int his business people will chew you up and spit you out for dinner.... to make a living out of music you have to work our butt off till its pink and blue then work it even more just to stay alive  
Date: 9/22/2002 5:26:00 PM  From Authorid: 53052    sexy pinguin i may have gotten the 2 nellys mixed up.. and pink.. she is a cross over same with nelly you start out with a hit and you change over some time  
Date: 9/22/2002 7:36:00 PM  From Authorid: 54878    consider yourself lucky he didn't "take the money and run" -- [that's a song that's had a lot of play i would only do business with local folks. recording business is super cut throat.  
Date: 9/22/2002 7:44:00 PM  From Authorid: 12806    I can't believe that someone would even consider writing music for a song without ever hearing it first (if I understood your post correctly). There is no "magic formula" that you can use, and then apply it to ANY song...... If you are going to do a demo, then what you need to do is: 1) Find a reputable recording studio (NOT a record label). 2) You need to talk with the technician there about your songs, and ask him/her about recommending musicians who would best suit your needs. 3)Make a "scratch vocal" recording of your original songs and give them to the musicians you choose to play on your songs.(NOTE: if you are paying these musicians for their performance on your recording, they are not entitled to any copyrights. You will own the copyrights completely, once you file for them.)By doing this, you will save yourself a lot of studio time, which equals dollars, because they will already have an idea of how you intend your song to be played...... You do not need "written" music in order to get this thing done. What you need are GOOD studio musicians who can hear and feel YOUR interpretation of your song. I recommend that you record your rap to a drum loop (a rim shot with a kick drum) in order to set the basic rhythm or meter for your song and let the musicians do the rest. Then, as the song progresses, after you have your basic rhythm tracks with scratch vocals, you can listen to it and decide what other instruments of sounds you would like to add, like an udoo drum, or a scratch............  
Date: 9/22/2002 8:10:00 PM  From Authorid: 20559    What a jerk! Don't listen to him Kaja! I bet you are a great rapper.  
Date: 9/22/2002 11:28:00 PM  From Authorid: 47699    I never knew that rap involved music in any way. I guess you learn something new every day.  

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