Date: 8/28/2002 9:33:00 PM
From Authorid: 14464
I don't believe in things I can't see. And I believe in ghosts because I've seen them also I believe in UFO's because I've seen them. I don't believe in aliens though because well I've never seen one. And my reason for not beliveing in God is because what if there really isn't one then you are just wasting your time with going to church and what not. Although there may be one, but to me it sounds like people made some guy up just to feel better about themselves. and I'm not trying to offend anyone I'm just stating what I believe.  |
Date: 8/28/2002 9:34:00 PM
From Authorid: 56410
My uncle believes in almost nothing. He does believe in psychic powers and aliens. He's got logic to prove that they exist. He uses logic to settle the score between lies and the truth. I believe in the same things he does, I think the same way, etc. I learned it from him. However, it is very difficult for us to understand those who DO believe in things they can't see with their eyes. -AerisVampire  |
Date: 8/28/2002 9:37:00 PM
From Authorid: 53427
I have met people like this and I find it very fruastrating lol. I think there are so many mysteries in this world that people should keep an open mind and not disregard everything that isn't proven true. I can't imagine being so close minded but I do know of some like that.  |
Date: 8/28/2002 9:38:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 34487
GhostLover... You have seen these things and do believe in them and that is fine. At least you do believe in some things that others do not and that is what I am referring to. Thanks for your reply.  |
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Date: 8/28/2002 9:40:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 34487
AV... if you believe in psychic powers, then you both believe in something that isn't always visually proven, except for telekenesis. |
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Date: 8/28/2002 9:42:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 34487
Snookums: yes, it seems like a more "narrow-minded" perspective to have in life. I'm glad someone agrees with me. ;c) |
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Date: 8/28/2002 9:43:00 PM
From Authorid: 56410
People reading others' minds. People predicting the future. People recieving messages in their minds they can't explain, and later find to be sent from a friend or relative. And, yes, telekinesis. They've all been proven existant. Thats proof enough for me. -AV |
Date: 8/28/2002 9:47:00 PM
From Authorid: 26227
How can you not believe in anything. Sure maybe you dont believe in certain things but usually you believe in something.  |
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Date: 8/28/2002 10:06:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 34487
HalfBaked: I don't know how they don't. That's just it? It amazes me that he doesn't. |
Date: 8/28/2002 11:37:00 PM
From Authorid: 56369
yup these people really get to me. My frined was liek that. I showed him this site and his like.. ahh i dont think its my type of thing. I presonally dont understand these people! lol well im only 16, I have a lot to learn.. but how can they say they only believe what they see.. we cant see time yet it rules our lives.. -honeysoul  |
Date: 8/29/2002 5:12:00 AM
From Authorid: 56332
i personally think that these type of people are afraid to acknowledge the unknown,it basically puts everything they know and understand upside down,so they go on in life living by their own understanding of things and never give anyones opinions a second thought,its sad that some people live this way,i like to see my life as one big learning curve and im always open minded,its the best way to be thegoose |
Date: 8/29/2002 5:22:00 AM
From Authorid: 35720
My dad believes in NOTHING.. it's annoying..  |
Date: 8/29/2002 8:49:00 AM
From Authorid: 56715
You know what I think is funny? My husband believes in ghost, but does not believe in god..Now that I don't get...I believe in both, by the way..I look at it like I will believe in a lot of things until someone can show me proof they aren't real...Dani  |
Date: 8/29/2002 9:47:00 AM
From Authorid: 24924
What is meant by "Nothing"?? If your definition of "Nothing" is: ghosts, demons, devils, gods, hell, heaven, fairies, and the Easter Bunny; THEN I DO NOT BELIEVE. However, DO NOT ASSUME that I don't believe in "Anything". What is your definition of "anything"? Is it the same as the kinds of things I listed? See, THOSE kinds of things ARE *NOTHING* to me. Your statement: "Only trusting science and man's opinions can be a dangerous thing" is the REAL and dangerous thing. If everyone really thought that way, we would all still be traveling by horseback, and feeling our way by coal oil lamps, and our life spans would be rather short...we most certainly would not be sitting at a marvelous electronic gizmo such as this one, thus enabling us to discuss the matter. You know, way back there in primitive times, people felt the same way. They knew very little of the world except for their own little circles; they knew nothing of the countless enemies of man that live unseen in water, food and air (science discovered bacteria and provided the antibiotics and medicines for diseases); they relied on their many gods, witch doctors and "wisemen" for everything. The poor indians believed in the "Great Spirit" and saw "design" in everything. Primitive people knew and or believed in evil spirits, invisible ghosts and phantoms in the air; myths that were carried along and retold by those who came back from travels by horseback or camels. They knew NOTHING of astronomy, nothing of chemistry; nothing of science. You Choose, When you find it so hard to believe that someone does not believe in YOUR "nothing" (your description of); try to think that the people who do NOT believe in YOUR "nothing", find it EQUALLY baffling and wonder just how in the world can someone of intelligence and EDUCATION believe in those things?? Just because I have been educated; I have examined (many times!) those beliefs in gods and ghosts, and demons, heaven, hell, the supernatural; the un-explained phenomena....at great length, and have NO need nor WANT of such things....does that mean that you think or believe that it is I that is "close minded"? For those of you who have sat in a Catholic church and watched the priests swing their "smoke pots" around and recited all kinds of 'mumbo-jumbo'..and sat there in a large congregation wondering how can these supposedly intelligent rational adults who are capable of running countries, building skyscrapers, flying airplanes, send radio signals across an entire planet....how can they swallow all this crap!!??? I am puzzled...I am baffled to death as to the grasping for deities, superstitious and supernatural among otherwise bright persons who otherwise have a rugged investment in logic and measured sense. How can someone abandon one's rational means and take up with the weird, the strange and the highly improbable, and often downright foolish? Inbred FEARS...of some "afterlife"....or the unknown,,,of the 'bogey-man', the devil...of THEMSELVES and their OWN minds?? I consider myself very open minded, sensitive; inquisitive.....; I just try very hard to not just ASSUME anything about something that I find UNEXPLAINABLE....by saying it is or must be "god, or a UFO, or a ghost; miracles...etc. etc. etc.  |
Date: 8/29/2002 9:55:00 AM
From Authorid: 20104
I have meet a person once who was like that. I personnaly dont believe in god, but thats the only thing I dont believe in. I dont see how a person could be that closeminded.  |
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Date: 8/29/2002 10:19:00 AM
From Authorid: 56410
THANK YOU, THINKER! You said it well. -AV |
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Date: 8/29/2002 6:28:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 34487
Thanks for understanding HoneySoul. ;c) |
Date: 8/29/2002 6:29:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 34487
Goose... good point. Maybe there is a larger fear of the "unknown."  ) |
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Date: 8/29/2002 6:30:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 34487
Rika...yes, it's hard to try and have a pleasant conversation with someone that acts as pessimistic as my hubby's friend. |
Date: 8/29/2002 6:31:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 34487
Dani: yes, it's a bit ironic when we try to understand their way of thinking. It's all based on our individualism I guess. I'm not juding my hubby's friend but he's so unwilling to even listen to ideas and possibilities.  |
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Date: 8/29/2002 6:47:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 34487
Thinker: I agree with what you've said but since we look at "the unknown" in a little different perspective our opinions will somewhat differ. As I stated in the post, my hubby's friend doesn't believe in anything that isn't scientifically proven. We are just on two very opposite sides in our willingness to comprehend and discuss issues. He laughs at ghost stories, aliens and so on. It is frustrating for me to try and have a conversation with him since he refuses to even consider the possibilities. I'm all for science but I'm all for understanding the Unknown and the world that exists beyond our eyes. He is actually a Catholic, so I guess he believes in God. He doesn't really like to speak about that subject much so I can't say how he truly feels about God. He knows I'm Christian and sometimes chuckles at my trust in God. These attitudes bother me not because he has a different attitude toward God but because he mocks me. I think we should trust science and man's discoveries but not those alone. There are things in this world, in my belief, that can't be scientifically proven but that I have personally experienced. My post was motivated and mainly directly, at my husband's friend and not at any segment of society. I guess, what we believe in or understand is based truly upon personal experiences. He's never been in a haunted house, I lived in one. I don't expect him to agree with everything I'm saying but I wish he could at least try to listen respectfully. That's where we have our problem. Thanks for your comment you make some excellent points and possibly, I didn't elaborate enough on issues. ;c) |
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Date: 8/29/2002 6:51:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 34487
Jamie: Yes, he is close-minded in my opinion. The poor guy may just be too conservative. He just needs to loosen up his collar a bit and study different issues rather then immediately dismiss them. |
Date: 9/11/2002 5:07:00 AM
From Authorid: 27161
actually thats why i became a sataninst so i can belive in many things whithout havingf someone to force it on me  |
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Date: 9/11/2002 7:58:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 34487
Freedom, I respect your wanting to have your freedom of beliefs. The guy I'm speaking about is a total pessimist though. He doesn't believe in even the possibility of anything. That's just hard for me to grasp I guess. Thanks for replying Freedom... ;c) |
Date: 9/12/2002 11:27:00 AM
From Authorid: 27161
I see, hmm odd this is the first tiime ive heard that, I thout he just is like a mere athiest or sumthig close, but oi this is making my head go ca ca kooo kooo
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panditha*damian* |
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Date: 9/13/2002 4:53:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 34487
No, he's actually Catholic but I don't know if he believes in God. He doesn't even think it's possible for other life-forms in our Universe or anything that we can't prove scientifically. He's real extreme in believing nothing. It makes it difficult for conversational purpose! ;c) |
