Date: 8/28/2002 6:37:00 PM
From Authorid: 40543
For the reasons you stated yes, but im not so sure it would be a good idea to attack Iraq.  |
Date: 8/28/2002 6:39:00 PM
From Authorid: 52866
I really don't know...it's something I have mixed feelings about. How did Hussein "steal" over a billion dollars from us?  |
Date: 8/28/2002 6:40:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 54429
we sent money to his people and he took it, there statistacal data on that around but i dont have my hands on any.  |
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Date: 8/28/2002 6:42:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 54429
exactly. |
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Date: 8/28/2002 6:42:00 PM
From Authorid: 52866
Oh I see, the money was for his PEOPLE but he took it for him PERSONALLY. Got it |
Date: 8/28/2002 6:42:00 PM
From Authorid: 10722
If we attack, it won't change their landscape much.  |
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Date: 8/28/2002 6:43:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 54429
yeah Anomaly,and America is so nice we'll but all the rocks and sand back in place. LOL |
Date: 8/28/2002 6:44:00 PM
From Authorid: 11528
No! 1) Saddam does not have Nuclear or Biochemical weapons so Your cities are safe. 2)He did not gas his own people. I covered this in a post I did earlier today and US Army documents show that it was Iran who gassed those people. 3)You were not surprised attacked at Pearl Harbour. Documents released under freedom of information act clearly show that FDR knew at least 11 days ahead of time that the Japanese were on thier way. Read the book titled "Day of Infamy" which was published a couple years ago for more info on that topic. The only reason Bush wants at Saddam is to gain control of the oil fields for his Billionaire Daddy and the Bush family friends who are in the oil business, plus the Israelis want the US to take out Saddam as well. Bye for now. Enki  |
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Date: 8/28/2002 6:45:00 PM
From Authorid: 40543
Eh Enki, still Saddam is a very evil man and is a tyrant in so many ways. That within itself should warrent some kind of action. |
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Date: 8/28/2002 6:48:00 PM
From Authorid: 52866
Enki I think what he meant was it was a surprise to the American PUBLIC, not the government, because yes, the government DID know about the attacks but I believe they failed to relay that information to the American public |
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Date: 8/28/2002 6:49:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 54429
@ Enki. 1) The Ismacis Extremist have been testing chemical weopons on dogs and other animals and may be able to use them in the future. 2) Whatever 3) The American people did not know the Japanese were going to attack, such as i would not know if they were going to use a nuke one me. Suprise! 4) The reason *I* want to attack Iraq is for our national security. |
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Date: 8/28/2002 6:49:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 54429
on* |
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Date: 8/28/2002 6:49:00 PM
From Authorid: 61834
Im with the author on this subject, we should nuke the entire country, it worked in WW2 why not try it again, just with more bombs. They killed our innconet people why should kill thier entire race and show that we are the super power! >>>racerX |
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Date: 8/28/2002 6:50:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 54429
Racer X thats racism, the Iraqi people dont deserve to die because of their leader, however killing civilians may be necassary in an attack on Iraq, im not a Nazi. |
Date: 8/28/2002 6:52:00 PM
From Authorid: 44850
LOL @ the author's argument of 'whatever' to enki ...  |
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Date: 8/28/2002 7:02:00 PM
From Authorid: 11528
Hi Author, if You check that dog video again You will see that the person with the bottles of liquid is bare foot. Nobody does chemical testing of weapons barefoot and without protective clothing. Its propaganda. By the way in the US they anasthecise thousands of animals every day. Is that considered testing chemical weapons? The American people did not know the Japanese were going to attack because Your Govt. failed to inform them, just like they failed to inform the sailors and soldiers in Pearl Harbour. Sorry but it is documented and the secret has been out for a couple years. Please explain how Saddam, with a bombed out country, no weapons of any great worth is a threat to Your national Security? Bye for now. Enki |
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Date: 8/28/2002 7:10:00 PM
From Authorid: 52866
Enki is very smart and he knows his stuff, Clay |
Date: 8/28/2002 7:11:00 PM
From Authorid: 28190
I have no opinion on this... But I do find it rather funny that someone that doesnt live in the US knows more about our operations as if it was shown in detail where they are, and not here..   |
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Date: 8/28/2002 7:35:00 PM
From Authorid: 61834
to the author, 1. is it right to kill americans for abloutly no reason?(NO). Two I am not a racist and you better not call me a NAZI! Also on the other hand NAZI's don't worry too much about them, they are more deticated to blacks, and people who arn't stright..RacerX |
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Date: 8/28/2002 7:45:00 PM
From Authorid: 28190
Actually Racer, When I read your reply and then look at the Author's reply, it really is kinda the same. He wasnt calling you a nazi, and I think the way you were trying to relay your reply was maybe a misunderstanding. I dont see where he called you a Nazi, but if I read it at your point of view I can understand what you mean. If the US does attack iraq, then there will be innocients killed, and I dont really know how I feel about the whole situation. But I do know that we shouldnt wipe out their whole civilization because of their leader. Just like those in the US dont like Bush, there is a high chance that there are those in Iraq that dont like Hussein, and in that case should they be genocide just because they are another civilization. heck no. I think thats what SOH meant with that comment,and not saying that you were a Nazi |
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Date: 8/28/2002 8:04:00 PM
From Authorid: 61834
i would like to make something clear, I am not a raceist, i hate all types of people. What i ment in my first post is not to kill the race of people but the race of terrisiosts.. Sorry, I failed english too many times.. RacerX.. P.S> Don't call me a NAZI! |
Date: 8/28/2002 8:20:00 PM
From Authorid: 35720
I'm staying out of this.. lol  |
Date: 8/28/2002 8:49:00 PM
From Authorid: 58308
I think we should go over there and kick their donkies!! Zeeboette  |
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Date: 8/28/2002 9:12:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 54429
Enki, the message could not be relayed to Pearl Harbor in time, i should set that straight. |
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Date: 8/28/2002 9:15:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 54429
Ok ive been gone for a while and now im back, i'm working on a post about all sorts of subjects about illegal immigrants to our president swearing allegiance to the Saudi Prince, but anyway i wasnt calling you a nazi, but what you said sounded like genoside naziism. |
Date: 8/28/2002 11:50:00 PM
From Authorid: 51070
I disagree; we shouldn't attack Iraq unless we have a good plan, which we don't seem to have. And, also, nobody will back us up if we do so.  |
Date: 8/29/2002 6:25:00 AM
From Authorid: 10146
All nations of the World are telling bush don't do it. If he does do it anyway, do you think America will suffer the Consequences for it? If So, "WHAT"? Never the less, the Risk, according to Bush Administration, say the Risk is still greater if we let Saddam live, we take a chance that he will nuke us, etc. The world says Saddam don't have that Power. Bush says he does! WE all know that other Nations of the World "DO"! So lets get them mad at us! It is better for another Nation to NUKE us rather than have Saddam do it. Correct? Yea right!  |
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Date: 8/29/2002 6:30:00 AM
From Authorid: 10146
Either way, I still believe Revelation chapter 18, is speaking on What is going to happen to America. Makes no difference who does it. Just the fact that people need to understand that Prophecy says,is is going to be done! Sooner or later. You all, can decide which one. The sooner, or the Later. |
Date: 8/29/2002 7:16:00 AM
From Authorid: 58022
Something needs to be done about Saddam quickely. But I don't think nuking him is quite the best way. Though now it seems like it's the only way. I really don't know what to think ont his subject yet.
~The Mystery~  |
Date: 8/29/2002 7:25:00 AM
From Authorid: 15228
I agree with Enki, Let's not attack our self-announced enemies now; if need be, we can attack them later, when they do have nukes.  |
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Date: 8/29/2002 10:57:00 AM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 54429
So what are you saying? We should wait for him to nuke us? what kind of psychotic statement is that!? |
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Date: 8/29/2002 12:20:00 PM ( Lin-Admin )
A comment was deleted due to Profanity...Author of Post,I apologize...I Remain In Spirit, |
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Date: 8/29/2002 1:29:00 PM
From Authorid: 61834
Ya, but we decided to wait for WWII and look what happened, we got our butts stomped at pearl harbor. We need to take action...RacerX |
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Date: 8/29/2002 2:10:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 54429
Exactly. |
Date: 8/30/2002 2:20:00 AM
From Authorid: 50435
LMAO! Didn't we go through this already? Wait, sorry, I think it was somebody else. Anyhoo, here's the lowdown: The US is a war machine. There is no possible, even in the next 100 years, that Iraq could POSSIBLY amass enough troops to defeat or even defend against the US. Chemical weapons? Chemical weapons on the ground have no effect on aircraft. The simple fact is that Iraq has nothing on the American war machine. As the state of affairs are now in Iraq, Lichtenstein has better odds of defeating the US. It's not nation against nation, it's extremist factions against the US. As for WWII, it's funny how American textsbooks differ from those in other parts of the world. Anyhoo, nice topic. I hope you get another 100+ on this one...  |
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Date: 8/30/2002 2:22:00 AM
From Authorid: 50435
And actually, Axl, it's his two sons you should be worried about. They're absolute heathens. Josef Mengele was an angel compared to those two... |
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Date: 8/30/2002 2:25:00 AM
From Authorid: 50435
About Pearl Harbor...what exactly was the purpose of that base? Answer: It was an outpost to detect exactly what attacked it. If there was no cover-up and the US actually had no knowledge of the plan ahead of time the only other conclusion is that he American forces were incompetent and...well...stupid... |
Date: 8/30/2002 7:54:00 AM
From Authorid: 21867
Nice point on the textbooks Gallytuck...I was beginning to think, from what I've been reading here in the last few days, that our History Books must be different or something. Coz apparently according to what I've read here America single-handedly fought every war in existance, America saving the World, stopped tyranny all by itself and the WHOLE world now owes America and NO other control its gratitude for the Freedoms they now enjoy. Guess Allied Forces don't come into it. Guess the fact that pretty much every major Military Engagement America has been involved in has also been supported by Allied Troops fighting right alongside them doesn't come in to it. Guess providing America Military Staging bases in the Pacific and around the world during wartime doesn't come into it. Guess Allied (even New Zealand) victories such as Crete and various areas of Greece doesn't come into it. Nope...the world apparently ends outside of American borders. Bit of a case of Mono-Cultural Myopia seeping in I think. Peace,  |
Date: 8/30/2002 9:22:00 AM
From Authorid: 54987
Yes of course... we need the oil don't we? If we can't persuade him to attack first then we'll have to do it. He gasses his own people? Well we can't have that can we? No sireee! Coolade  |
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Date: 8/30/2002 3:38:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 54429
Where did you guys get this crap that America is so great and powerful? when did that happen and where has it been stated? I've gone over the whole post and see nothing that says America is the center if everything. So whats up? |
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Date: 8/30/2002 5:08:00 PM
From Authorid: 21867
...we, or at least I, am referring to what I have read here(on USM)...not specifically here (on this post). Peace, |
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Date: 8/30/2002 6:26:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 54429
oh ok. |
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Date: 8/30/2002 6:57:00 PM
From Authorid: 50435
Interesting tidbit NOT from an American textbook: Canada was the only nation of the three that stormed Normandy to achieve and hold its objectives. Something else you can't find in textbooks: Talk to any British, Australian, Canadian, German or any other WWII vet that served in the European Theatre and you'll get at least one anecdote along this line: The Americans bombed anything that moved...including themselves. With the exception of the Gulf War, in the 20th century the Americans did not win any war single-handedly. I'll give them the Gulf because it was pretty much an American effort although the Brits were in on it in small part as well as other nations. So this information ties in how? The US has a chip on its shoulder that it desperately wants to be rid of. It has, in essence, something to prove. New weapons systems have been developed since the Gulf War in the early '90's. These systems need to be tested in a practical situation. On top of this old, outdated weapons need to be disposed of to make way for the new stuff. What better way to rid of such weapons than to actually use them?... |
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Date: 8/30/2002 7:02:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 54429
I already knew about everything you just said cause i usually dont get information from textbooks, everyone except the first one. And agreed its a good way to test new weopons ONLY if necassary. Not that i trust the government wont use them in a war againsta Iraq, but i'm not for testing weopons of mass destruction just becasue we're trigger happy. |
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Date: 8/30/2002 8:26:00 PM
From Authorid: 21867
Ahem...Gallytuck...you missed out NEW ZEALAND Armed Forces in that list. We may be a small country, but we have committed more troops on a per capita percentage basis than many other countries during the two World Wars as well as the many other battles that have broken out. NZ was also present during the Gulf War, much Intelligence was gathered by the Commonwealth Special Forces such as the SAS Forces of New Zealand, Australia and of course Britian. NZ Troops are often included in 'Australian' Force numbers...yet we are an entirely different country altogether. Peace, |
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Date: 8/31/2002 9:14:00 AM
From Authorid: 15228
Poor Canada, you guys have some sort of inferiority complex or something. I recommend therapy. |
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Date: 8/31/2002 10:14:00 AM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 54429
maybe i should make a post espacially for you guys to see who's country did more good things. lol j/k |
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Date: 8/31/2002 12:32:00 PM
From Authorid: 50435
Absolutely Agent Smith. The NZ'ers were a force to be reckoned with. My grandfather has mentioned them in more than one of his endless supply of war stories. Except he calls you guys Kiwis. LOL. Poor Kelly, please do not pity us. As it stands now, you are more likely to lose a loved one in an act of terrorism than I am. You are also under the threat of possible martial law in the event of more major WTC-type stuff happening. You are also fed inaccurate news reports and you have a great chance of becoming severely obese. You'll be moving up here to avoid disaster before I'll be moving down there to do likewise...so please don't pity us... |
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Date: 9/1/2002 8:32:00 AM
From Authorid: 15228
hmmm, maybe it's an obsessive-compulsive disorder (obsessed with the US and pointing out her supposed evil-doings)?? You know they have drugs to treat that sort of thing.. |
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Date: 9/1/2002 8:39:00 AM
From Authorid: 15228
Gallytuck, I have YOU to give me all the accurate news, so I'm in a win-win situation. I get to live in a great country where Canadians are pounding on our doors to immigrate here (I wonder why??), and there is a greater chance that I will be struck by lightning TWICE on the same day than killed by terrorists (sorry, about that).. |
