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Is hot sauce Child abuse, or a reasonable punishment?

  Author:  46005  Category:(Debate) Created:(8/15/2002 9:40:00 AM)
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I was talking to someone who toldf me that when her child says a bad word, or tells her NO! she puts hot sauce in his mouth..... she said she has only had to do it three or four times since she started the punishment, and he no longer cusses, or is disrespectful. Do you think this a resonable punishment, or do you think this is a form of child abuse?

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Date: 8/15/2002 9:41:00 AM  From Authorid: 56381    Hmmm I dont think its child abuse unless she does it like all the time, but once in a while might be ok I guess. We use to do this to our dog when he growled and now he stopped :P xoxoxo *Shakira Babe*  
Date: 8/15/2002 9:41:00 AM  From Authorid: 10722    Well, it looks like it worked eh? LMAO!  
Date: 8/15/2002 9:43:00 AM  From Authorid: 48993    well as long as it is just a taste and not like a teaspoonful i would say its ok .... if it works i think its better than beating the child (JMO)  
Date: 8/15/2002 9:43:00 AM  From Authorid: 44342    umm, i wouldnt consider it child abuse but...its sorta mean  
Date: 8/15/2002 9:44:00 AM  From Authorid: 59299    I personally wouldn't ever do that to my kid being as I hate hot things and they burn my mouth really bad! If my mom ever did that to me I would cry for a long time! But it's her child and really we can't do much about our thoughts on it so how ever she sees fit to punish her child then that's how it's going to be done! **Hugs** Buttafly_Kiss (By the way I don't have any kids lol I'm only almost 15)  
Date: 8/15/2002 9:44:00 AM  From Authorid: 33925    Hmmmm...I dont think it is abuse..its not causing physical pain..Its showing them that there is a consequence to their actions..they swear they are going to have a hot mouth..LOL  
Date: 8/15/2002 9:44:00 AM  From Authorid: 600    Well, if the child is tied down and it forced down their throat, it's abuse. If we're talking a drop on the tongue I don't feel it is abuse. My children have had to lick the soap bar......  
Date: 8/15/2002 9:45:00 AM  From Authorid: 18527    I wouldn't call it child abuse, my mother used the same system to keep us from sucking our thumbs!  
Date: 8/15/2002 9:46:00 AM  From Authorid: 42522    It's not child abuse.  
Date: 8/15/2002 9:47:00 AM  From Authorid: 3321    Well...this is certainly...uh...unusual? I don't know, it doesn't seem to be much different from the old accepted soap in the mouth, and it certainly isn't hitting...but still damaging, I think.  
Date: 8/15/2002 9:50:00 AM  From Authorid: 38474    I STILL remember the first time I was punished for cursing, at the time I was 4. My grandfather said a bad word and I repeated it. My grandmother overheard BOTH of us and we BOTH got our mouthes washed out with Palmolive dishwashing liquid. IT WAS HORRIBLE, but I didn't cuss around my grandma anymore and I still don't. She still uses Palmolive to do dishes with and I am afraid of another wash out, LOL. I don't think the person is abusing that child, I actually think it is a reasonable punishment as long as they aren't doing it everyday to punish for everything............  
Date: 8/15/2002 9:50:00 AM  From Authorid: 51635    I don't think its abuse, its a lot like washing his mouth out with soap, and certainly better then getting his mouth slapped ... IMZP  
Date: 8/15/2002 9:51:00 AM  From Authorid: 58611    It sounds better than using soap, or hitting the child. Kind of weird though.  
Date: 8/15/2002 9:51:00 AM  From Authorid: 15394    Used to be liquid soap and before that it was lye! so ummm hot sauce seems not so bad to me! lol of course the kid might have a sauce phobia later in life LOL  
Date: 8/15/2002 9:53:00 AM  From Authorid: 10722    Maybe she's breaking him in for a strict mexican food diet.  
Date: 8/15/2002 9:54:00 AM  From Authorid: 40145    That is kind of out of line for putting hot saucein a child's mouth just cuz he/she say a bad word, thats kinda mean. especially its too hot.. I wouldn't do that .  
Date: 8/15/2002 9:54:00 AM  From Authorid: 53500    LOL, that probably wouldn't work in Texas or in Cajun Country! Those kids are raised on spicy food!  
Date: 8/15/2002 10:03:00 AM  From Authorid: 61830    When I was a kid, my mom first tried that on her dogs... to "teach them a lesson about barking". It worked (Now ok ok, before you guys all think I am nuts, my mother was a dog breeder, she bred and raised Doberman Pinschers). Then I was about 8 and my brother called me a 'bad name' and then I in turn called him the same thing, I didn't even know really what the wrod meant. As I said it, my mom walked by our room... heard me, and that was when I was introduced to Louisiana Chile Pepper sauce!!! Acckkkk. That stuff will make it so you won't talk for a half hour, because it hurts so bad.
Personally I to this day don't think that it is abusive at all though. Sure it hurts, but it isn't like a beating, and not really as shameful. It teaches a lesson...
Parents these days are so worried about abuse and if they are being too hard on their kids. Kids pull stunts to see if they can get away with it. They do things that are deserving of punishment, so that they learn. It isn't always about being mean, but about teaching a lesson. If a child doesn't learn after you talk to them, sometimes further actions are just a nesecity. I don't ever remember my mom talking to me about my languagem, though I am sure she did... I do remember my mouth being hurt, because I said something. To this day I don't use the word.

Now on the other hand, I think it is a REDICULOUS punishment, just because a child says no. That is cruel even. A child stating no, is testing boundaries, and in some cases should be forced to "obey", but punishing for defiance... just seems like crossing the ine. That teaches a child to be wholly submissive... which in the long run can hinder personal growth as well as self esteem... and that could be deemed as abuse.
Date: 8/15/2002 10:16:00 AM  From Authorid: 56381    I agree with what they say about its better than being beat. If I had the choice between getting hit or gettin some hot sauce in my mouth I deffinatly know I would choose the hot sauce xoxoxoxo *Shakira Babe*  
Date: 8/15/2002 10:23:00 AM  From Authorid: 52155    hmmmm, sounds like a good idea to me.  
Date: 8/15/2002 10:26:00 AM  From Authorid: 12103    Yeah i think if you do it like alot, hold them down and pour it down their throat..then it is...kinda like spanking..if you do it till they are like black and blue and liek all the time its abuse..but once every once in awhile wont hurt, i dont think   
Date: 8/15/2002 10:27:00 AM  From Authorid: 30229    I think hot sauce is definitely child abuse..  
Date: 8/15/2002 10:41:00 AM  From Authorid: 61104    I think it is reasonable because it has worked and it does not hurt him. That is how my mom got me to stop sucking my thumb. That is how one of my freinds got her daughter to stop biting people. Would you rather she smack the you know what out of him? *Gothgirl*  
Date: 8/15/2002 10:42:00 AM  From Authorid: 2030    Saying "no" is a different issue. For swearing I'd say it's somewhat on a par with the old soap bar.  
Date: 8/15/2002 10:53:00 AM  From Authorid: 59385    never thought of this one but i think,its a good idea..BlueEyesWhiteDragon  
Date: 8/15/2002 10:55:00 AM  From Authorid: 5252    nope, not child abuse, i had this done to me, as well did my brothers and sister. it sure did teach me some lessons, my parents would put it on our forks before we ate dinner, then we really wouldn't know it, but we would...you know??  
Date: 8/15/2002 11:33:00 AM  From Authorid: 60426    I don't think that it is child abuse... I bet my mom would have done the same thing if I cussed when I was younger. Di.  
Date: 8/15/2002 11:37:00 AM  From Authorid: 27046    Well according to Gail I am abusing my children because when my daughter picked up God "dangit" from my mother when she was younger I used hot sauce to get her to stop. This day and age if you use soap...which is a chemical...THAT is considered abuse and investigational by social services...hot sauce is a food.....I know people that use pepper also. How can putting hot sauce in your child's mouth for swearing but then you can put a liquid on their thumb that makes them physically ill to get them to stop sucking it? What is the difference?  
Date: 8/15/2002 11:42:00 AM  From Authorid: 54196    My mother gave some to my brother a long time ago because he swore. She had the authorities called on her. When they heard the whole story, they were upset for someone accusing someone of child abuse for something that silly. No, of course it's not child abuse. Can it cause permanent injury? NO. Is it effective? Definitely.
Date: 8/15/2002 12:16:00 PM  From Authorid: 26227    Well this is a first for me. Ive never heard of this before but to me it sounds like child abuse.  
Date: 8/15/2002 12:17:00 PM  From Authorid: 26227    well maybe not child abuse but mean but if it works then there is nothing wrong with it.  
Date: 8/15/2002 12:43:00 PM  From Authorid: 12835    I've grown to love hot sauce over the years....  
Date: 8/15/2002 1:11:00 PM  From Authorid: 42259    Weeell..it does sound mean,but it's not physical abuse,and it's no worse than spanking,right?My mother washed my mouth out with soap once when I cussed and I never said it again.  
Date: 8/15/2002 1:53:00 PM  From Authorid: 10146    It is no more child Abuse than Pepper spray is Human Abuse! You do what you gotta do, to get them little heathen in the order of respectibility.  
Date: 8/15/2002 5:02:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 46005    Hawk, actually, when i posted this i meant to leave my opinion, I think it is child abuse in way- and it is not a way i would punish my child, Im sorry that I didn't respind quick enough for you!  
Date: 8/15/2002 5:31:00 PM  From Authorid: 27270    Well, it's certainly a creative approach and I don't think it's abuse at all. It'd be different if she was feeding the kid habanero peppers just to see the look on his face, you know. When I got my daughter off the bottle what I started doing was putting lemon juice in it, so that when she'd say "ba-ba", I'd give her the lemon juice, she'd take a sip, make a sour face and then I'd offer her the sippy cup! Worked like a charm, but a lot of people thought I was being mean (mind you those were the parents whose kids were still on the bottle at 3 and 4)-everyone has a different way of going about things and this hot sauce approach certainly beats soap (which is what I got as a kid!) or spanking or slapping the face.  
Date: 8/15/2002 6:15:00 PM  From Authorid: 277    WHo says you didn't respond quick enough? That's fine.  
Date: 8/15/2002 6:32:00 PM  From Authorid: 38256    My mom used to make me sit with a bar of soap in my mouth when I cussed. I don't know it really depends on how much she is putting in, if it's just a drop and she gives him a drink following then yeah i'd say it's reasonable.  
Date: 8/15/2002 6:59:00 PM  From Authorid: 41067    Well, a friend of my family has a son who used to bite people quite a lot. She used mustard to try to deter him, but he just developed a great liking for it! Eats it with almost everything now. I wouldn't say it's abuse, just a deterrant, as long as its not used in excess.  
Date: 8/16/2002 1:15:00 AM  From Authorid: 21948    I think that hot sauce is a better form than a bar of soap it's self. than again, that's a pretty weird punishment don't cha think?...princess diva...
Date: 8/16/2002 9:07:00 PM  From Authorid: 51070    If it stops this kid from swearing, then it's fine. Hmmmm...everything seems to be abuse these days. Even a small spanking if the kid spreads raspberry ham all over your brand new white carpet. "sigh" A lot of kids are monsters these days. Back in the old day, kids got the belt. Ummm...my cousin put hot sauce in her cat's mouth. Now THATS abuse! Kitties are defenseless!  
Date: 8/18/2002 9:05:00 AM  From Authorid: 16069    Good debate. Its different, but I wouldnt consider this abuse.  
Date: 8/18/2002 8:38:00 PM  From Authorid: 54071    That isn't child abuse to give them a food source even if they don't like it.. if it doesn't physically injure the child's mouth then it isn't abuse... and that's saying that its child abuse to make them eat Vegetables just because they don't like them... pluss I think that would be much better than washing their mouths with soap..
Date: 8/22/2002 11:21:00 PM  From Authorid: 61063    i don't think this is abusive even though i don't use it. but i don't think a swat on the but for a serious offense like running in front of a car is abusive either. there is a fine line though when swatting when extremely angry. not the best idea. exasperated
Date: 9/16/2002 8:34:00 AM  From Authorid: 27161    Haddam calling a child a heaten is very rude i must say, that is like calling them stupid, and i agree this is very harsh, i mean come on its not the kds fault they say the bad word the parent or others must of saidit before.

HAIL SATAN
  
Date: 3/22/2004 9:05:00 AM  From Authorid: 40741    well seing as how my mouth (a couple years ago) when i was little it was really sensitive and i had it done to me it burned and because of that 2 this day i cant eat hot sauce so instead i was forced to eat soap! but now im 12 and i curse so it didnt really help.....  

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