Date: 8/13/2002 6:01:00 PM
From Authorid: 10722
They should be kept track of in some form or another.  |
Date: 8/13/2002 6:02:00 PM
From Authorid: 30097
I think that would be a terrible thing to do! That's like the equivalent of the Nazis putting the stars on the Jews. The last thing we need is for people to be labled like that! What's next, people with Cancer, or children with Downs Syndrome with marks on their head? It's a bad idea in my opinion  |
Date: 8/13/2002 6:03:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 46005
Wild Magic, you cant spread cancer, or down syndrom.... there are people out there spreading aids on purpose.  |
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Date: 8/13/2002 6:04:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 46005
people are spreading it without even knowing that they are spreading it. This desease kills people........ DEATH. |
Date: 8/13/2002 6:04:00 PM
From Authorid: 61811
no, cuz if they use the needles with a non-aids person, then the disease will spread. wfp  |
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Date: 8/13/2002 6:05:00 PM
From Authorid: 61811
but maybe like hmmm, well, if they didthat then make sure the needles go bye bye. wfp |
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Date: 8/13/2002 6:05:00 PM
From Authorid: 55376
I think a 2" brand on the forehead would do. Og |
Date: 8/13/2002 6:05:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 46005
61811 --- im sure they would use clean needles for each person......  |
Date: 8/13/2002 6:12:00 PM
From Authorid: 3263
Oh...you mean a tattoo that represents their illness? No. That, to me, is an invasion of privacy. Although, your question originally had me wondering about the health factor in tattooing people infected with it.  |
Date: 8/13/2002 6:13:00 PM
From Authorid: 9130
No, because the people who would be crazy enough to go around spreading AIDS would be sly enough to find out a way to avoid the tattoo  |
Date: 8/13/2002 6:15:00 PM
From Authorid: 3263
Hey, you know...you really got me thinking with this post! This may not be a bad idea for sex offenders, though...I mean, it's not a crime to have a disease, but it is to...well...commit a crime! Know what I mean? Hmm...good post! Got me thinkin, which doesn't happen too often!  |
Date: 8/13/2002 6:15:00 PM
From Authorid: 45630
A tattoo would ostracise an already lonely defenceless and scared human being. Are we going to brand them like a cow. The smallest of percentages of people with Aids are spreading it on purpose. The only way this would work is because people would be so depressed about being feared by the community they would spend the rest of their lives living like hermits. Why should they get tests done for social security or jobs as well. They are not a sub species. They are human beings afflicted with a terrible disease and they need or love and support.  |
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Date: 8/13/2002 6:15:00 PM
From Authorid: 61864
Perhaps voluntary tattooing, but it shouldn't be forced...I mean a tattoo system really would help, but then you'd have the people who'd be too "embarrassed" to do it because they'd be ashamed or something...I'm sure most people who are doing fine with the fact that they have HIV (such as Majic Johnson) would gladly tattoo theirselves has a good gesture...but i'd doubt it'd help too much... Omari Davis |
Date: 8/13/2002 6:16:00 PM
From Authorid: 225
I dont think they should be either.beind tested for aids to get a job? thats ridiculous also  |
Date: 8/13/2002 6:18:00 PM
From Authorid: 24732
Yes, I think it is a good idea. It could potentially help people who were unaware they had aids. The only problem I see is the people getting jobs. If they tested positive, they wouldn't get hired as easily. It certainly wouldn't help them get employed. I also think it should be a law that they have to tell people like dentist that they have aids. Because that could put the dentist at risk.  |
Date: 8/13/2002 6:18:00 PM
From Authorid: 56369
I agree 100%. Some may wish to suffer in silence and not broadcast the fact that they have the disease to the world, so a Tat on the hip is good. That I wouldnt say is an invasion of privacy. Even though I would prefer the tattooo to be somewhere visable for people to see.  |
Date: 8/13/2002 6:18:00 PM
From Authorid: 58923
No one should have to be tattooed against their will, not even for identification.  |
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Date: 8/13/2002 6:20:00 PM
From Authorid: 56369
And also, if a person with a tat and the disease where to have an accident and loose blood, people will be able to take extreme caution. So that two lives arent in danger. I dunno if that makes sense but theres a point somewhere in there lol -honeysoul |
Date: 8/13/2002 6:21:00 PM
From Authorid: 59001
there are children also infected with HIV virus,so what lets tatoo them to.listen to yourself people,regardless of what disease people have,come on now we are still HUMAN BEINGS.
you explain to children who didnot ask for AIDS that they have to be branded like an animal...  |
Date: 8/13/2002 6:22:00 PM
From Authorid: 52866
Nope, I don't like this idea because it's not fair  |
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Date: 8/13/2002 6:24:00 PM
From Authorid: 56369
With out a tat and no cure in site we will all be HIV possitive sooner or later. Its growing.. |
Date: 8/13/2002 6:25:00 PM
From Authorid: 47618
This is ridiculous. I understand the reasoning behind it but it's an invasion of privacy. Soon it will get out of hand and we'll be tattooing everyone for different reasons. And while we're at it why don't we slap a big large scarlet "A" on former President Clinton and every other adulterer...  |
Date: 8/13/2002 6:25:00 PM
From Authorid: 15394
ewww no way!!!  |
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Date: 8/13/2002 6:26:00 PM
From Authorid: 15394
reminds me of the tatoos on the jews in concentration camps too ewwwww... |
Date: 8/13/2002 6:32:00 PM
From Authorid: 53052
this man wants to go back to the 40s when all jews had to wear the star stating that they are a jew? it's human branding.. yes it would be nice to distingwish a person who has it from a person who doesn't when your getting into a relationship(i know of one man who caught it and felt so bad that he go it that he went and spread it without telling people.. that is wrong) but that is barbaric! i can understand being tested for jobs... some jobs that require a good health of you have a chance of hurting yourself and bleeding it's good for co-workers to know or having to state you have it to apply for benifits within the company.. but people with aids are still humans and deserve atleast some respect.. what does that guy want next the gays and straight people seperated?  |
Date: 8/13/2002 6:33:00 PM
From Authorid: 23610
No...I wouldn't agree with tattoos. Who would that benefit except the paranoid? What if we tatooed all the people with prejudices and bigotry so that we can establish right away who we should stay away from to avoid negativity, hate, and paranoia? I don't think anyone would want to be forced to be tatooed or singled out for something that another person could consider a negative or a potential detriment.  |
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Date: 8/13/2002 6:35:00 PM
From Authorid: 53052
56369--- have you ever met anyone with aids??? why should someone be branded like cattle because they were born with something or the hospital made an error back in the 80's with a blood transfusion??? |
Date: 8/13/2002 6:36:00 PM
From Authorid: 19927
no!!!! people with AIDS are humiliated enough as it is...and branding them with a tatoo is letting them be seen by the whole world that they have AIDS. It is their responsibility to tell their partner that they have AIDS, they shouldn't be advertised to the whole city they live in. I just finished watching the movie Philadelphia....it was so sad...its pathetic how people with AIDS get discriminated like that   |
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Date: 8/13/2002 6:40:00 PM
From Authorid: 53052
i wish people who think this way would actually meet a person with AIDS they will look differently on it then |
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Date: 8/13/2002 6:42:00 PM
From Authorid: 53052
61811--- a tattoo artist changes the needle after each person tattooed... they also change the loves they wear when they tattoo each person... it is very sanitary and if you ever get a tattoo and you don't thnink they changed the needle ask them to or go some place else you have a right |
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Date: 8/13/2002 6:46:00 PM
From Authorid: 9130
I agree with what Jungabel said |
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Date: 8/13/2002 6:50:00 PM
From Authorid: 56369
53052, Yes I visit the Ward in hospital, I go there all the time. My heart goes out to them. But if they had of steered clear of the hazard they would of. Tattoos are the pathway that will steer others clear. Even in a tipsy state A Tattoo would set off an alarm bell in peoples heads. Its just so basic. Its not 'Branding a jew' Jews were not a health Hazard. You need to open your eyes. Some 3rd world countrys are falling apart because of this. Theyre government simply does not have the money to fund health facilitys, and HIV is ripping up the community. Your thinking only of the USA, and peoples needs for privacy there. HIV isnt such a big epademic in Aus, and we could keep it that way if we could keep track of certain things. AIDs wether or we like it or not is playing a huge roll in our society and will continue to do so until everyone is infected.. then what are we gunna do?? |
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Date: 8/13/2002 6:52:00 PM
From Authorid: 61384
I think it would start with AIDS patients, and then who would the next group be? |
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Date: 8/13/2002 6:57:00 PM
From Authorid: 53052
but telling people that they should put a mark on there body a TAG lets say(to me a tag is still a branding if it's a perm mark on the body) i am not just thinking US.. i am not a US citizen.... but i don't think people should be marked because of HIV.... if people didn't want to catch it and thought about it they would use protection...people are dying over this yes BUT you don't want to start marking up everyone who has it... what about that person's rights? do you think they want to be known as "the aids victim" "there marked they have HIV steer away from them, don't go near them" what is what the tag is saying |
Date: 8/13/2002 7:00:00 PM
From Authorid: 27270
This is the most ridiculous form of discrimination I have ever heard of! Should we go back to the days of "The Scarlet Letter", too? Yes, a person w/ AIDS or that is HIV positive can be "deadly" to another if he/she chooses not to reveal his/her disease and proceeds to have unsafe sex w/ another person. And yes, you have medical/insurance/SS concerns, but hey, this is a FACT OF LIFE in our society. We cannot separate ourselves between HIV positive and HIV negative and pretend as though one is more "worthy" of health care benefits, etc. These practices (technically) are already in place to a certain extent, when it comes to insurance as many times you cannot obtain coverage if your physical reveals you have this terminal illness. But to insinuate that a person who is HIV positive is not entitled to food stamps, jobs, or anything else that the rest of the population is entitled to is ludicrous! And for anyone who thinks that people who end up HIV positive are somehow "stupid", or "promiscuous", then well....ignorance, plain and simple  |
Date: 8/13/2002 7:01:00 PM
From Authorid: 16069
An excellent idea, but it'll never happen. It would help the AIDs problem, but youd still have to be careful.  |
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Date: 8/13/2002 7:07:00 PM
From Authorid: 27270
Besides, this punishment is more cruel than we give most murderers and sex offenders! Let those people be the ones who have to walk around w/ a mark on their bodies exposing them to the world. People like that are the one's who ASK for what they got. It's not a crime to have AIDS, but it is to molest or kill- |
Date: 8/13/2002 7:24:00 PM
From Authorid: 51635
Man some of you sound like NAZIS ... who would you tatoo next? people with herpes? lets not forget people who commit adultery, lets brin back the big red "A" ... and sure then lets put the stars back on the Jews and upsidedown triangles back on the gays ... while we're at it, why not clone Hitler?? we have the technology, I think it would be appropiate since some of you want to bring back his way of thinking ... IMZP  |
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Date: 8/13/2002 7:33:00 PM
From Authorid: 51635
ALF, if someone isn't sure if they have AIDS or not then they should get tested, it's the responsable thing to do |
Date: 8/13/2002 7:34:00 PM
From Authorid: 52419
I think it's a pretty good idea.. think about it.. what if you were getting ready to sleep with a girl.. and she took off her pants, and you seen that tattoo, it might save you from getting aids. but i also think it's immoral, but so is our government. Mickle  |
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Date: 8/13/2002 7:45:00 PM
From Authorid: 51635
Mickle, if you're gonna sleep with someone, shouldn't you know them well enough to trust them, well enough to know if they have AIDS or not?? and if you weren't married to this girl, wouldn't you use a condom?! people having unsafe sex and sharing needles is whats spreading AIDS and HIV, so if you know you don't have it you can avoid it by not doing those things ... you shouldn't need your partner to have a tatoo to know, you should have trust to know ... IMZP |
Date: 8/13/2002 8:34:00 PM
From Authorid: 22080
i dont see a problem with it but tested to get a job? yeah maybe if your a hooker  |
Date: 8/13/2002 9:35:00 PM
From Authorid: 277
I wouldn't want to be the person giving the tattoo! When you get a tattoo you bleed. Whether gloves are used or not, I wouldn't want to do the tattooing! Everyone who has aids isn't irresponsible so tattoos wouldn't be necessary for everyone. In the military, active duty members are required to be tested annually for HIV. But, we all know military people are going to keep their jobs whether they have hiv or not. If they tested in the civilian world for hiv/aids whose to say a person wouldn't be discriminated against for having hiv and not get hired? Things happen for a reason, what reason I don't know. If people are going to spread aids it's going to happen. If you want to tattoo people, tattoo the rapists and child molestors on the forehead after they are released from prison.  |
Date: 8/13/2002 9:42:00 PM
From Authorid: 54987
I just read that there is no such virus as HIV. They have not found the virus... they don't know what it looks like even. The whole thing is a con. Go research into it. Coolade  |
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Date: 8/13/2002 9:44:00 PM
From Authorid: 55376
Coolade, you are relying on wacko websites for your info again. Og |
Date: 8/13/2002 11:23:00 PM
From Authorid: 29806
Good idea, why don't we tattoo the "Jugen" symbol on all the jews? And the pink triangle on all the homosexuals as well? No, it's not a good idea. I mean, it's really just complicated segragation if you think about it. -ID-  |
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Date: 8/13/2002 11:25:00 PM
From Authorid: 15394
Hey I might be all for that tatooing of sex offenders right square on the forehead!... hmmmm |
Date: 8/14/2002 6:24:00 AM
From Authorid: 55303
a nice big one on their neck or some place they couldn't hide it very well  |
Date: 8/14/2002 6:37:00 AM
From Authorid: 33925
No I dont think they should be tattooed..Junga already stated what immediately came to mind for me..tattooing the Jews..Its just wrong..and Coolade..No HIV?? Ummmm..Im not sure where you got your info, but its WRONG..try telling my DEAD Brother in Law that he didnt die from HIV and AIDS..LOL  |
Date: 8/14/2002 6:24:00 PM
From Authorid: 60018
Although this is a good idea how can we really tatoo everyone whos got aids? Legaly a minor cant get a tatoo with out permision or w/e. Maybe somehting littler to start off with like a braclet or somehting...  |
Date: 8/17/2002 6:32:00 AM
From Authorid: 17825
hmmmm so let me see...we take a poor defensless infant say..who was born with hiv and we tatoo that poor baby so they will have more pain in their life,then we use that tatoo when they go in later to apply at the social services for help because they have been abandoned all their life for having aids and use that against them so we dont have to help them...its a scenario but its not just adults who contract the virus,little ones suffer too,and its a shame someone actually thinks that people are no better than cattle,its disgusting  |
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Date: 8/23/2002 12:25:00 AM
From Authorid: 61063
absolutely not. i refused an aids test when i was pregnant because i can gaurantee i have not been exposed to aids. i would not have that question between my husband and i. i have had only one partner. when i left the hospital after a c section, both my son and i had had a transfusion, a small risk for me practically none for him. now i would get tested but not for a job. by law no one is required to reveal their aids status because there is such public shunning of people with aids. you do not have to reveal it to medical health professionals either (although i think that is a bit rude) and it is part of their job to use extra precautions when someone's aids status is unknown. i understand the fear here, someone may never tell you they have aids because they are afraid, afraid to lose you, ashamed, any one of dozens of reasons. tatoos are not the answer though. open that door and see where it gets you. it will move on to the ridiculous. hmmm.... we could tatoo people that have divorced because they are a higher risk mairrage prospect. lol. robbers? wouldn't you appreciate being able to see a thief for what they are before it is too late? carriers of diseases that don't get the disease themselves? surgeons that have their hands immersed in body fluids day in and day out? mortitians? nuclear physicists? food handlers? what if you see them picking their nose in public and then they don't wash up? body fluids you know. it happens alot more often then you want to know. someone would want to take it a step further after this step was established. why not divide the different ethnic groups into their own states? incarcerate the mentally or physically challenged into an area of their own? could you see these debates popping up as we moved forward into these territories? scary thoughts |
Date: 10/5/2002 8:31:00 PM
From Authorid: 59876
besides, it isn't like people are spreading aids unknowingly. dirty needles and irresponsible sexual relations are an ignorant culprit not an unknowing culprit.  |
