Date: 7/22/2002 8:40:00 PM
From Authorid: 52866
I jsut have something to say about the title of your post...religion is not a problem.  |
Date: 7/22/2002 8:41:00 PM
From Authorid: 42519
I dunno Johnny. lets let it be.  |
Date: 7/22/2002 8:42:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 56864
I think that's an inside thing. I'll change it.  |
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Date: 7/22/2002 8:45:00 PM
From Authorid: 52866
Oh okay...lol, thanks. |
Date: 7/22/2002 8:46:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 56864
no problem  |
Date: 7/22/2002 8:51:00 PM
From Authorid: 53052
i totally agree people should NOT try to convert someone they should NOT tell people that it's thier way or not way at all, we should all make our own belief choices and almost all religions out there are a modge-podge(mix) of other beliefs and often some religions the basics are the same!  |
Date: 7/22/2002 8:52:00 PM
From Authorid: 55679
this is all true but you forgot about Judaism how both islam and christianity believe it is the first religion and the foundation of their religion. You also forgot to meantion how moses is similiar in those 3 christianity, judaism and islamic. ~JC  |
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Date: 7/22/2002 8:54:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 56864
ok, your right. I know Abraham the father of the three religions. I know they have similarities. Thanx for pointing that out JC. |
Date: 7/22/2002 8:57:00 PM
From Authorid: 56042
Srry to say but I'm not a big religious person so I don't know if there's one religion that rules over any other religion...DeziA  |
Date: 7/22/2002 9:06:00 PM
From Authorid: 33925
I think the general motto should be "each to their own"..It would be nice if everyone followed that, but not realistic.  |
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Date: 7/22/2002 9:11:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 56864
Good motto! It is unrealistic, though. If only their was a haven for the peace-lovers. It would be a Utopia. *Sigh* I guess I was right when I thought of this "Peace will only come to those who die first". Morbid, but true.... |
Date: 7/22/2002 9:56:00 PM
From Authorid: 3125
What is a Christian?..A follower of Christ..Who will Christ come to take with Him in the end? His bride..Whom must we believe died for us? Jesus Christ..Whom must we believe to be the Saviour of mankind? Jesus Christ..What gospel are we to believe and preach to the world? The gospel of Jesus Christ..Can any other gospel save?..Not according to Jesus Christ..Galatians 1 , "Though we or and angel from heaven preach ANY OTHER gospel unto you than that which we have preached,LET HIM BE ACCURSED..Acts 4:12.."Neither is there salvation in ANY OTHER,for there is NONE OTHER NAME under heaven given among men whereby we must be saved".. There is ONE GOD..NOT MANY..So you see..Your way is not God's way..The only way to do it your way would be to deny God and choose the way of man..God the Creator tells ALL to choose Him and the entire purpose in choosing Him is for the salvation of our souls..If ALL would choose Him,then there would be no oppositions,religious wars,etc..God says that Christianity IS THE ONLY WAY..We can believe God and do as He asks,or we can go astray and live as we would have it. There cannot be a one world religion and still do things God's way unless of course EVERYONE accepts God's way,which is very unlikely..All we can do is to pray for peace and that God's will be done on earth as it is in heaven..Sorry if this sounds so bold,but it must be said..God is ONE and Jesus said to His apostles, "Go ye therefore unto ALL the world and preach the gospel to ALL" ((hugs))  |
Date: 7/22/2002 10:10:00 PM
From Authorid: 15033
Amen, Rusure. Right on.  |
Date: 7/22/2002 10:17:00 PM
From Authorid: 50435
Oh brother...  |
Date: 7/22/2002 10:35:00 PM
From Authorid: 59248
I do not advocate or condone war, but I will say this: War will never be stopped so long as mankind takes its life out of the natural course of things. The book, Ishmael, By Daniel Quinn, is probably a must read for all of you, and I'm working on "the Story of B" by the same author... at least visit www.ishmael.com and find out what its about. Pretty much, it all started when mankind started agriculture, and had certain people work very hard to make food for other people, whose only job was to supervise the people making the food (doesn't make sense) and once you lock it up, you need guards to make sure nobody steals it, ect... eventually, you end up with our way of life. Religion has very little to do with it, because we said that we knew like the gods when we started agriculture, and stopped living like all other natural creatures, eating the food that is there, and letting ourselves die if we outstrip our food supplies. NO, mankind foolishly decided they could take themselves out of the natural flow of things, and with almost 7 billion people on this earth, it is only a matter of time before the people who have no food attack those who have the food, because they have nothing to lose. (I'm using food towards this last part as a metaphor, think haves/have nots)
I would also like to say that I am not an expert on this book, but I'll say this, the book starts with the plot line of a man seing in a paper the phrase: "Teacher seeks pupil | Must have an earnest desire to save the world | apply ___ *gives imaginary address* " the man goes, and learns what it will take to save the world, a must read for all of you wishing peace.
-sorry that ran so long |
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Date: 7/22/2002 11:00:00 PM
From Authorid: 15033
Wow, Contena_Gray, today I was discussing that same thing with a friend! We were agreeing on how people were once nomadic, going to where the food was by the seasons. Not only did this keep a constant balance in the food supply, it gave them the variety in their diets for better health. They ate their foods fresh and unadulterated, and you didn't see anyone trying to own the land, dictate power over anyone, or mentally ill people...nor did you see over population. I truly wonder if God was an ever so simple concept in their perception according to the abundance/unforgiving earth. Then it changed to serving man by staying in one place (as you've described). To me, it was still spelled out the same way by those who sought to know God and Christ....and those who still do...:-) |
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Date: 7/23/2002 1:13:00 PM
From Authorid: 59248
wow, thunderhead: really: I never tell people what to read, but strongly recommend Ishmael for you and your friend. did you check out that website? but one thing confused me: "To me, it was still spelled out the same way by those who sought to know God and Christ....and those who still do...:-)" What was spelled out? -- actually in My Ishmael, the sequel to Ishmael, Quinn views that the entire story of man's fall was actually a story told by the "leavers" -those 'primitave' people whose style of life was taken over by the agriculturists... man eating from the knowledge of good and evil, let him know what must die and what must live, like the gods do. (lightbulb yet?) They then proceed to kill off their competition, which is, might I add, a solely human thing to do, lions do not kill hyenas because hyenas also eat gazelle, yet every day, millions of insects are killed by pesticides to help farmers' yields - killing off competition - If anyone else has any questions about these books, or needs a stronger recommendation, leave a msg for me... thunderhead, perhaps you and I could chat sometime. -Contena |
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Date: 7/23/2002 1:15:00 PM
From Authorid: 59248
In defense of that last post being for the thread, it is actually very important, because mankind is also its own competitor, causing war - in some cases.... I think that Religion is an excuse to attack to really gain more land and power. -Contena |
Date: 7/23/2002 9:28:00 PM
From Authorid: 37900
Eliminating the distinctions between religious systems would not eliminate war; religion may be a factor in many wars, but it is not the cause of any. War results from greed and pride, and would therefore occur if there were no religions. It seems to me that many more wars begin without religious connections than with them. Good post.  |
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Date: 7/23/2002 10:30:00 PM
From Authorid: 59248
*to above post* *taps nose with pointer finger* |
