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Was Andrea Yates Spiritual Leader's Influence Responsible ? You Decide

  Author:  15070  Category:(Debate) Created:(7/21/2002 11:47:00 PM)
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Examining a Spiritual Leader's Influence Andrea Yates

Newsweek/March 18, 2002

Was Andrea Yates's "spiritual leader" partly responsible for her delusional thinking? As testimony comes to a close in her trial, evangelist Michael Woroniecki's influence over the mother accused of murdering her five children has become an issue. A day after Yates, who has pleaded not guilty by reason of insanity, drowned the children in the family bathtub, she told a jail psychiatrist that her bad mothering had made the kids "not righteous," and, as a result, they would "perish in the fires of hell." If she killed them while they were young, God would show mercy on their souls.

Where did these thoughts stem from? Yates's attorney, George Parnham, has put into evidence a copy of Woroniecki's newsletter The Perilous Times, sent to Yates and her husband, Rusty. In it a poem laments the disobedient kids of the "Modern Mother Worldly" and ends with the question, "What becomes of the children of such a Jezebel?" Houston psychiatrist Lucy Puryear told the jury that literature is "what her delusions are built around."

In a letter to NEWSWEEK, Woroniecki, 48, denies negatively influencing Yates, and points at Rusty. "Knock, knock ... Hello ... earth to Rusty ... your wife and children are in desperate need of your love," he writes. "I warned him over and over again that his life was headed for tragedy." Rusty, who declined to comment, first met Woroniecki while he was a student at Auburn University. Woroniecki was preaching on campus. Rusty introduced the preacher to Andrea, and in 1998 the Yateses bought a Greyhound bus from Woroniecki, who had lived in it with his wife and their six children as they toured the nation.

During a 1994 protest at Brigham Young University, Woroniecki called the school's women "contemporary witches." He told them sarcastically, "Go and be a 20th-century career woman and forget about your families." One of his pamphlets proclaimed, "As man was created to dominate, God reveals that woman was created to be his helpmeet." Though Andrea quit her job to stay home with the kids, Woroniecki says he never urged her to do this. "Although she was an excellent nurse, she never wanted to pursue a career," he wrote NEWSWEEK.

Rusty told the jury that he agreed with Woroniecki's support for home-schooling and living the "simple life" in a bus - two decisions the Yateses copied but which Puryear says caused significant stress for the passive Andrea. Forensic psychiatrist Park Dietz agreed, and said these factors led to her two previous suicide attempts. "She couldn't say to people, "'I can't stand this'."

For his part, Woroniecki writes that he and his wife were a very compassionate and caring couple who did all we could to love them ... After all we did for this family, it is preposterous for us to be cast into such a terrible image."

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Date: 7/22/2002 1:02:00 AM  From Authorid: 23610    I don't know if I would place the blame totally on Woroniecki....but, yeah, he sure did miss the boat on this one. I'm sure given Andrea Yates' mental and emotional problems, his kind of teaching surely did not help and may have even made matters worse. It's hard for me to understand how anyone can so blindly follow someone such as a man who thinks the way this one does. But the worst part is....my heart and whole being just aches for those poor little babies. So, so tragic.  
Date: 7/22/2002 1:34:00 AM  From Authorid: 46266    I have no doubt that her religious teachings had everything to do with this completely religion-oriented sacrifice. Human sacrifices in ancient cultures are often seen as having a better afterlife than the rest of us. Whatever Woroniecki claims, I suspect that he is as much to blame as the mother herself. He may be shocked to see the extremes of his teaching being taken literally - let's pray that this wakes him up from his fantasy world.  
Date: 7/22/2002 6:59:00 AM  From Authorid: 36967    Blame the preacher, I see. Preachers get blame for everything.  
Date: 7/22/2002 10:06:00 AM  From Authorid: 55376    A nutcase like Andrea could be influenced by what she read on a box of Cheerios.With the exception of Andrea,her husband is the only one I find with any culpability here. Og
Date: 7/22/2002 10:50:00 AM  From Authorid: 27046    I agree with Vertigos and I also have to say that her husband should be sitting in a jail cell right along with her. He is free to expect another woman to live this way, impregnate her five times and then subject to her to these kinds of teachings..he knew she was sick yet day after day he left her with those children.....such a shame..  
Date: 7/22/2002 6:17:00 PM  From Authorid: 27270    While it may have had an influence on her "thinking" (if you can call it that) I don't think you can blame this man. After all, TV has an influence on people too, but ultimately it up to the individual to know right from wrong, and I really don't think this was a gray area. Hmmm, kill my kids or don't kill my kids.....? We all have to take responsibility for our actions and the sooner people stop blaming others (and the sooner society stops LETTING them blame others) the better off we'll be. Personally, I think 7 years down the road she decided she wasn't happy with the life she originally agreed to live w/ her husband and children and it became too much for her. I'm not saying she doesn't have mental problems-anyone who does this certainly must-however I feel that the bottom line is DON'T KILL PEOPLE. Not your kids, not your husband, NOT A STRANGER. It's a pretty simple concept and it never ceases to amaze me how people kill other people.....I just don't understand. But I understand enough to know it's wrong!  
Date: 7/22/2002 8:50:00 PM  From Authorid: 16671    Surprise of Surprises, I agree with Everything that Ladynxy said on this issue.
DRKPTRS: SOME TIMES the preacher DOES NEED to be blamed ,espcially one like this. He is part of the blame and especially if a woman is like andrea and emotionally unstable. Her husband seems to be the controlling type and so this woman was sunk before she ever started life.
  
Date: 7/23/2002 10:06:00 PM  From Authorid: 27678    While some of this may be true, the fact is that Andrea was taking some serious psychotropic drugs that by and large, were directly responsible for her behavior, in my opinion, however, that doesn't excuse it. She has serious problems that obviously were not addressed by anyone, and she, herself, should have demanded help, when she began to have these thoughts, at all, imho. As far as this "homeschooling" slam, Andrea's children were all under six, and not ready for first grade, so this whole argument is a fallacy.  

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