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Date: 7/13/2002 8:03:00 PM From Authorid: 15675 That guy is a quack I repsetc christians but pagans and such have rights too this isnt just christians country. Religion is manmade people and its fine as long as it harms none but when people like this start talking it harming. |
Date: 7/13/2002 8:03:00 PM From Authorid: 49498 This person is crazy. I talked to someone that had a demon from the Necronomicon. The demon tried to tell her they were in a battle to break heavens gates and hell would flood into earth. the thing is this is what demons want us to believe. No I am not crazy to you people who think I am..M.Man |
Date: 7/13/2002 8:09:00 PM From Authorid: 45866 Nothing 'satanic' about that, it's all humans fault, not some god/goddess of the underworld or above. |
Date: 7/13/2002 8:14:00 PM ( From Author ) From Authorid: 15070 o.k.....this person claimed a demon from the Necronomicon talked to HER. #1..why would a demon (especially one claiming such a High Position) talk to YOUR friend? The Necronomicon, if it were the REAL one (better luck getting a chance to read the original Dead-Sea Scrolls)..only a Master Occultist could perform the High Magick to gain the audience of such a being. #2- I don't believe in demons......and maybe you should be a little more careful about what you believe. |
Date: 7/13/2002 8:15:00 PM ( From Author ) From Authorid: 15070 I should say...I do believe in inhuman beings...but not the whole Juedo-Christian mythos.. |
Date: 7/13/2002 8:25:00 PM From Authorid: 55376 You just believe in the Pagan mythos I guess. Og |
Date: 7/13/2002 8:27:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 15070
No-I believe in history.....fact. I also believe that I am entitled to my opinion..as you are entitled to yours. And, if you wish to read about my views, go to: http://pub24.ezboard.com/bparanormalresearch32456 I would welcome your view(s) |
Date: 7/13/2002 8:39:00 PM From Authorid: 49498 well if you say inhuman beings not everyone will know what you're talking about. I was just trying to make it so people get the message..M.Man |
Date: 7/13/2002 8:42:00 PM ( From Author ) From Authorid: 15070 o.k.....I understand. |
Date: 7/13/2002 8:43:00 PM From Authorid: 55376 So I guess history supports your belief in inhuman beings but not Christian beliefs of inhuman beings? Og |
Date: 7/13/2002 8:45:00 PM From Authorid: 55376 LSG,since you understand, please explain to me what M.Man is stating. Og |
Date: 7/13/2002 8:45:00 PM From Authorid: 17525 Seems the "Cutting Edge" has been around since the Middle ages. You're right LSG, BUNK is a good word for it. The article plainly implies that those who do not profess the Christian belief are subscribing to some aspects of Satanism. Fine!! Let them believe their own rhetoric. Thinkers will move on as they always have. I'd really like to see the financial statements of this particular 'demonination'.....speaking of greed. Peace, |
Date: 7/13/2002 8:50:00 PM From Authorid: 51876 Well that was definitely interesting.I am definitely a Illumanati conspiracy theorist.To understand this transcript it takes a lot of mental fortitude.The media in all it's forms including this radio program is the last stage of the path to the global elite to the world.All these claims of a society gone satanist is total disinformation. The real satanist's are the bloodlines of Rothchilds,Rockefellers,Duponts,Bundys,Collins,Astor,Li,Kennedys,Onasiss and others who control global economies thru banking,political and corporate means.Even the Church of Satan was created as a smokescreen to make people beleive that Satanists are a bunch of robe wearing,blood sacrificing freaks. Even Anton LeVay himself finally admitted a few years back that the whole thing was a farce to make money.In reality these people beleive in the duality of Christianity.In other words if Jesus the Christ is lord of heaven then Satan is the Lord of this world.They pay tribute to this evil because they beleive they are Gods themselves.Propaganda is their weapon and they have been doing this for centuries.Just take a look at some of these bloodlines ancestory and what they have been involved in. How else could such a thing be even possible otherwise? I am not a christian and look at secular religon as a political game.Spirituality runs very deep to label Jesus or any other enlightened being as a savior is spitting in the face of everything they stood for which is for each one of us to evolve into beings of higher consciousness.Everything can be twisted to serve your own ideas and/or idealism.I have said this many times "TRUTH IS SUBJECTIVE"..........BruiextheGreenMan |
Date: 7/13/2002 8:53:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 15070
well, Og....we are having a private chat session via "messages"...so you only saw part of the discussion...Osiris! Glad to see you! (you have to stop by my new discussion board). yes, sadly enough this man is using fear & worse case senerios to frighten the un-informed. I suspect with such a man, "receiving" the "free-gift" would not be enough & he would have a list of rules & regulations about who will & will not make it to heaven. |
Date: 7/13/2002 8:56:00 PM From Authorid: 50435 LSGGGGGGGGG!!!! YOU'RE BACK!!! Anyhoo, imagine the complex that a child raised by this amadan would have. About the demon conversation. Any demon, negative spirit, devil, and what-have-you will talk to absolutely ANYONE given the chance. As for its existance in the Christian sense, I do not know. It has been stated by demonologists that the belief in any of the leading world faiths is sufficient to repel these 'evil beings'. Just something to think about. Anyhoo, welcome back... |
Date: 7/13/2002 8:57:00 PM From Authorid: 55376 Truth is more than just subjective to anyone who believes in the Illuminati garbage in 50 years the Gates and Walton families will be on the list of Illuminati members. It is sheer fantasy preached by a mixture of white supremists,anti-semites,socialists, alien visitation believers,and end times Christians. Og |
Date: 7/13/2002 9:00:00 PM ( From Author ) From Authorid: 15070 Og....you have just implied that BruiexTheGreenMan is one of the undesirables you have listed...*tsk* (by the way...on the subject of "alien-abduction" there are a few "christian's" here at USM that believe it also....) |
Date: 7/13/2002 9:05:00 PM From Authorid: 50435 Read the Satanic Bible. Skip the hullabulla in the last part of the book, the spells or whatever. But look at the fundamentals of Satanism according to the late Mr. LeVey. He's got a point... |
Date: 7/13/2002 9:18:00 PM From Authorid: 55376 The libertarian aspect of Satanism is good. The rest of it is a bit odd. LeVay was a businessman, not a real good one. Og |
Date: 7/13/2002 9:21:00 PM From Authorid: 55376 Yes LSG the Illuminati fits into certain end times Christian scenarios. OG |
Date: 7/13/2002 9:28:00 PM From Authorid: 51876 So OG what makes you so sure you are correct other than with your mental wipe of anything that crosses your path.I do not beleive that the Illumanati has all the control they want.In this day and age of constant communication and networking.They are losing their grip that is why things are escalting at such a fast rate now.They are going to lose.Why do you act like some invisible antagonist is to blame as a christian wouldn't it be logical that it would have to be human powers to acheive this horrible state of fear we live in.I really am sick of you and your "Holy than though stance".....BruiextheGreenman |
Date: 7/13/2002 9:36:00 PM From Authorid: 55376 I am not a Christian, like 95% of rational people I do not believe in the illuminati. Most of those who push it on blind individuals such as yourself have ulterior motives. The anti-capitalist wing of the constructors of the NWO fantasy are the ones who disturb me the most. The NWO is a politically impossible idea with a huge risk vs. a petty reward for the so-called benefactors of the New World Order. Which statement of mine was holier than thou? Og |
Date: 7/13/2002 9:44:00 PM From Authorid: 55376 Personally you are the one who uses the NWO as a fantasy antagonist. The only antagonists I worry about are liberals in Congress and those who vote for them. Og |
Date: 7/13/2002 10:13:00 PM From Authorid: 55376 The Greenman?.. I forgot to mention earlier the environmentalist faction of the NWO boogeyman construsctors. Og |
Date: 7/13/2002 10:21:00 PM From Authorid: 51876 To it may concern: I have never wrote NWO in any post,comment so I do not understand your point that is directed at me.I do not want to convince you of anything.If you think that these things do not exist so be it.I am not a UFO theorist,I do think there are mysteries that are out there.The Illumanati tentacles are so subtle. You OG talk down to me as if I am on a lesser scale than you or something.I have seen you comment on my posts in the past and you always call it garbage,nutty eccetera....Why do you seem to be so offended? Could it be that you are involved in some of these schemes.Nothing you say will ever gain a response from me again.The lesson is learned.....BruiextheGreenMan |
Date: 7/13/2002 10:37:00 PM From Authorid: 55376 Let me see does the time I have been here have anything to do with this debate? I don't think so. The illuminati is usually associated with NWO conspiracies as are the families Briux mentioned. Amazing how someone can state Christians are spitting on Christ and then be offended when someone labels one of his ideas as garbage.A bit of a double standard here, is it not? Og |
Date: 7/14/2002 11:46:00 AM From Authorid: 15319 I'm not going to comment on this too much, lest I lose my already frayed temper and make an arse of myself. I think everyone here knows what I think about these types of Christians. |
Date: 7/14/2002 4:56:00 PM From Authorid: 29806 You hear that? It sounds like a cult starting! -ID- |
Date: 7/15/2002 4:29:00 AM From Authorid: 42792 Jesuits and Freemasons= evil control freaks governing the world as allowed by inferior everyday people, who choose not to believe the truth, massed in billions, unknowingly supporting the ongoing fleecing of the entire world by oppressing their fellow man, who know the truth but stand in fewer number, leaving them no choice but to suffer in the masses of the ignorant as the blood sucking greedy leaches drain us all till death. Jesuits and Freemasons= one world power, one entity bringing all religions together as one. |
Date: 7/15/2002 6:44:00 AM From Authorid: 19092 Who's "the enemy"...? |
Date: 7/15/2002 9:27:00 AM From Authorid: 55376 I think Pogo had the answer to that one,King. Og |
Date: 7/15/2002 10:17:00 AM
From Authorid: 16671
WEll og, I would think that the christian is the enemy in this post, as clearly this was taken from a christian web site. If one was to read a little more than just bits and pieces of this type of diaolog, they would see that the illuminate has been interwoven through out history. Clearly not enough study has been done on this subject. I find it amusing that the same people that dont believe that their are demons in the world, do believe in ghost, LOL, ROLFLMAO. Strangly enough this quote,from the author herself""" be sure of the strengh of your argument.if you have choosen, to "take-a-little-here-take-a-little-there" then you are your OWN god because you have created your own belief system. """ This was taken from her open letter to a satanist. And then of course there is this, ........do you realize with what's going on in the middle east, ect,ect for the first time in 2,000 years ALL the biblical prophecies can come to pass????... NOW this author tells us on this post, No-I believe in history.....fact So does this mean, lsg, when its your fact? Your belief system of the month, that it must be true? Prove to me that the NWO wont come to pass. These people are not trying to scare people, they are telling them *fact* as they know it and simply because their *fact* does not line up with your fact of the month, does NOT make them an enemy. They are only an enemy in your own mind. |
Date: 7/15/2002 10:54:00 AM From Authorid: 54987 Well said LSG, Osiris, BruiextheGreenMan. Don't leave this site please. You're three of the few only ones on it LOL. Some of these so called demons and satanists must be posing as christians LOL. Does anyone know where I can find a t-shirt that says: 'I bumped into Tammy Faye Bakker'? Coolade |
Date: 7/15/2002 10:55:00 AM From Authorid: 54987 'three of the few sane ones on it' I meant to type. |
Date: 7/15/2002 11:25:00 AM From Authorid: 55376 Belief in the illuminati is about as sane as belief in the Easter Bunny. Og |
Date: 7/15/2002 1:30:00 PM From Authorid: 27678 BruiextheGreenman, I too, believe, there is an elitist group of people, call them Satanists, Illuminati, or whatever, who are pulling the strings behind the scenes. Not all events are planned and carried out, with precision, but a lot of them, are, like this "war on terrorism," for example. Og, you and I have disagreed on this in the past, but how do you explain the "legislation," that is world-wide, against "individual dissident groups," in differing nations, when 9/11 happened to America. As our illustrious President said it was because of our "freedoms," that we were attacked, then how do you explain Hong Kong passing similar legislation? What on earth would they be afraid of? It simply makes no sense not to consider the possibility of the possibility of installing a world wide government. I personally feel that Satanism, and satanic activities are to create fear, and nothing more. However, I do know that murder happens, child molestation happens, and if people get together, dress in robes and terrorized young children and others into compliance and silence, then how can this not be a possibility? There is evil in the world, and there are people who harm others. There are leaders in countries, who get together, like the G-8, for example, and we do see the fruits of their policies take place in different nations around the world. And these groups are made up of UNELECTED people. To act as if this is not a possibility is naive, especially in light of all that is happening recently. LSG, I can agree with some of your post, but, by and large, this is another "wishful thinker," who is not looking at the facts, and doesn't care whether they are right or wrong, but simply wants to "slam their view, home." Coolade, ditto, on the Tammy Faye Bakker statement. I, although a Christian, am extremely wary of most Christians, and have far many more non-Christian associates who act more intelligent and loving, than a lot of the Christian hypocrites I know. |
Date: 7/15/2002 1:43:00 PM From Authorid: 55376 As transportation, the internet and other technologies make the world smaller and smaller intermingling of economies. the neccesity for certain common laws on certain issues e.g. laws protecting intellectual property, etc. are going to arise. The use of a boogeyman to blame for fascist laws leads people away from the truth. That these laws are usually a result of popular demand. We once had a Constitution that protected us from the whims of a temporary majority, no more. Since the reinterpretation by the Supreme Court of the General Welfare Clause in the Constitution we are no longer protected from majorities denying individual freedom. Pogo had it right,"We have seen the enemy, and it is us".Og |
Date: 7/15/2002 2:00:00 PM From Authorid: 27678 O.K. Oggie, if that's true, then how do we reign them in? And don't tell me the election process, cause we've seen that that can be subverted as well. Corruption runs in every aspect of our government, and someone is allowing it - is it us, or is it the powers that be, allowing it to take place, after we've put our trust in them to do their jobs? How do we fire them???? |
Date: 7/15/2002 2:15:00 PM From Authorid: 55376 We can argue whether in a close election the results can be manipulated though I believe the correct result came out in the Presidential election for all the wrong reasons. The fact is there could have been no awarding the Presidency to McGovern or Goldwalter. The only option is to persuade the voters of this country that less government (which also means less goodies doled out by the government)is better. Unfortunately polls consistently show Americans want lower taxes but more government programs. Our duty is to educate the voters on the dangers of socialism and fascism. Voting Libertarian in the good ole USA would be a nice start. Anyone who has been voting Republican as the lesser of two evils needs to take a hard look at the expansion of government under the current administration.. Almost all my recent posts have been over government interference in our lives. We do not disagree on the dangers of big government,FG. Og |
Date: 7/15/2002 2:51:00 PM From Authorid: 27678 OG, you be right! However, it's going to take A LOT for me to feel comfortable even voting again, and I've voted for over twenty years. Things just seem too eerie for me. BTW, there's a great post I put in discussion re: Capitalism by Ron Paul, that I know you'd like. Peace. |
Date: 7/15/2002 4:22:00 PM From Authorid: 54987 RIGHT ON FREEGIRL. You've joined my prestigious list of sane people ... hugz...Coolade |
Date: 7/15/2002 9:18:00 PM From Authorid: 44448 I'm wiccan, and I'm not going to hesitate to mention I am horribly insulted. There are other religions, and just because they disobey yours, doesn't mean they are evil. |
Date: 7/16/2002 9:05:00 AM From Authorid: 49277 i dont believe in satan, the fallen angel, embodyment, creator, and source of all evil, but i do believe in evil. dont worship satan, but dont worship the bible's god either. there CAn be middle ground. it isnt black or white. This man/woman is rediculous and judgemental, but partly right. religion is a big part of what is messing our society. but its not the religions themselves-its what people do becuz of it to eachother. like this person- shunning. each religion is like a room, doesnt matter which room ur standing in, if ur being cruel, prejudice, judgemental and arrogant.. than thats what ur being. doesnt change if u r standing in the christian room or the satanist room, or even in the doorway. ya get me? or so many christians seem to think being a christian is supposed to make sum1 a better person than pagans/etc. well, i say it doesnt make sum 1 a better person just becuz they walked into the room u are in or literally- into the religion u r in. hmm did that make sense. |
Date: 7/16/2002 9:10:00 AM From Authorid: 54987 Yes it does make complete sense SavageFlower. Give me 5... Coolade |
Date: 7/17/2002 3:38:00 PM
From Authorid: 58491
Ponders... ::Sugar Like Spice:: |
Date: 9/3/2002 2:04:00 PM
From Authorid: 27161
man i really want to know where this thing is lol hes sooo stupid lol these are teh types of people we satanists just love to pick on and mess with their minds due to their stpidity lol these are what we call xians aka facist christian hail satan |
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