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Date: 6/15/2002 8:52:00 PM
From Authorid: 46091
Religious figures are hand puppets for the darkage superstitions still with us modern folk. - GreenDream |
Date: 6/15/2002 9:11:00 PM From Authorid: 51979 I am a Christian, thats just a name tho, I don't have a religion, I have a relationship. And no, its a very very wrong insight to say that good people will go to Heaven and bad people will go to hell, its all about God and his love and forgiveness. And God is not a man or a woman, I don't know why we call Him a He, but why do we call boats she? Everyone needs to accept Christ to go heaven, because without Him, your sins are not forgiven, you are not washed clean with the blood of Jesus. And Christianwiccans, or whatever you call them, do not have a realtionship with God, because if they did they would strive to please Him, and being a wiccan is well...serving the devil. If you aren't serving God there only leaves satan. |
Date: 6/15/2002 10:56:00 PM From Authorid: 21867 I like VitalDeaths sentence "I don't have a religion, I have a relationship"...I like that...as I 'have a faith but not a religion'...similar sorta deal. But see...thats whats right for me...what feels right inside. I think we all have to find our own relationship with God (or whomever you hold that to be). I don't think God is concerned about HOW we find Him (and I only use 'Him' as thats my own interpretation of 'God')...just that we DO find Him. If you find your link with that 'Higher Power' through Wicca...then so be it...thats what is right for you. Though I also gotta make mention of this first part of your post: "...there are two spiritual powers god and satan. So rejecting Jesus would be going for Satan right?" There is another choice...and that is to go for neither...and by neither I mean chooses NO 'Higher Power' at all. Peace, |
Date: 6/16/2002 From Authorid: 53689 VitalDeath, I am so sorry to disagree with you but if you are going to critize a religon you need to learn about it first. Wiccans DO NOT serve the devil. They worship a God and a Goddess. If you would read the bible it does make mention in places of the existence of other Gods. TarHeelGirl |
Date: 6/16/2002 12:48:00 AM From Authorid: 51070 Wiccans don't even believe in the Christian devil... |
Date: 6/16/2002 12:56:00 AM From Authorid: 46266 I thought this was a post about God and Satan. On that topic: To believe that there is no Satan, and to believe that we are "naturally good" - just by looking at the world around you, any fool can see that is the highest form of contradiction. |
Date: 6/16/2002 1:14:00 AM From Authorid: 46266 Quote: "You know what? I was raised a christian and its not so much that I was rejecting Jesus by going wiccan but disagreeing with a form of worship. Now the following is just how I feel and I've seen it in some books too: Jesus may have lived in my opinion. As a gospel of Aradia said: Jesus preached love but many dont practice what he preached (not to say all christians dont practice love.) I'm not rejecting Jesus and embracing Satan. For that would be saying in a since: Good (God) and bad (Satan) spirtuality. I do good things or I try. If Jesus was real good for him because the things Jesus preached were from what I know and understand of love." -- I have to wonder if you really were raised a Christian, or perhaps have not remembered the definition of the term "contradiction" at all. "Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: NO MAN cometh unto the Father, but by me." - John 14:6. You have rejected Jesus when you say that there are 'other ways.' Your ignorance of what Jesus really taught (I only say that because you claim to have been raised a Christian and mention 'what Jesus taught' in your post) shines through when you fail to acknowledge that Jesus himself utters the word 'Satan' 22 times in the Bible! Did you also fail to learn that after the Last Supper the following happened to Judas: "And after the sop Satan entered into him (Judas). Then said Jesus unto him, That thou doest, do quickly." How can you deny the existance of Satan without rejecting Jesus? Either acknowledge our enemy's existance, or admit your own betrayal of Jesus. There is no fence to sit on, I'm sorry. |
Date: 6/16/2002 1:14:00 AM From Authorid: 17525 Satan is a distinctly Jewish invention based on the forerunner Satya from the Indus people. It's (assumed) appearance has been a conglomeration of PAN from the greek mythos (which christianity demonized) and centaurs in general. Lucifer has been also lumped into this stew of 'evildoers' which mainstream christianity has not been able to extract itself from for the last 1000 yrs. Face it Wiccans/pagans! Christianity teaches that all other beliefs are BAD. Take it or leave it! That is it's foundation right from it's own book. It's has nothing to do with anyone's soul or forgiveness or any other such fluffy rhetoric. It's competition for minds. Pure and simple. DO yourselves a favor; don't try to convince christians that you don't worship satan because their whole purpose in being is to convert others AWAY from other beliefs. The only tool they have is to point to other beliefs as being evil. Whatever you say won't change christianity's history of intollerance and bigotry. No matter how tempered it may be today it still brews at the pulpits and spews from the preachers. Follow your path and let them follow theirs. No one will convince anyone of anything because it's all based on intangibles and unprovable collections of thoughts, hopes and wishes. Christianity established itself by laws and violence, it rose to power through polical influence and financial scam. It entrenched itself in the mind of the west through force and control. It will not change. And it will not let go of it's power easily, nor change it's rhetoric. So don't waste your breath. It's an intollerant religion born and bred. It will never accept you or your beliefs. So just let it go. Let them have their wishful thinking that you are evil, and you can keep to your knowledge of what you do. It's better to keep your belief shouded than to explain in every detail your version of the mysteries. Indeed, in every belief there are always the initiated and the rabble. If christians genuinely want to understand your belief better, let them do the research. Any unbiased and honest study will demonstrate what you're trying to prove here anyway. Just my opinion. |
Date: 6/16/2002 5:11:00 AM From Authorid: 46266 Osiris, as so often takes place in the Debate halls of USM, you have started off on a false assumption. There is a people, a gullible people, misled, poisoned, brow-beaten and bewitched by a perverted leadership who puts itself in the place of God, to whom you mistakenly refer as 'Christians.' There is a word, a Biblically-foreign, anti-Christian word that conjures up images of oppression, torture and satanic hate, which should stand in the place of the term 'Christian' in your above post. There is an heirarchy, an ungodly form of perverted human leadership who rob their congregations of any form of privacy, then are able to hold their sins over their heads, be they 8 or 80 years old, in order to extract anything from sexual to infuential to financial favors. There is a witching coven, filled with the products of three thousand years of generational satanism who ensure that every follower's neck, every title in the leity, and every grand cathedral is hallmarked with references to and symbols of the ancient Babylonian Mysteries religion. There is a religion so hateful and intolerant of other religions that it burned at the stake tens of thousands of Witches who refused to follow their particular brand of satanism, and hundreds of thousands of God-fearing Protestors who stood on the Bible alone. There is a church, so grandiose and aristocratic in it's inapprochable richness and conceit, that makes use of titles completely foreign to the church founded by the Son of God - titles such as "Pontifex Maximus" - the title of the Pagan leader of Roman Pantheism in the times of Christ and Peter. Titles such as "Father" which was irrevocably commanded by Jesus never to be assigned to any earthly religious leader. There is a confusing faith, which amalgamates an array of ancient religious icons, from the Pan of Greek mythology to the Queen of the Skies adored by human-sacrificing Mayans. There is a deceit, so subtle and cunning, which before our very eyes is seeking to unite the world's religions under the banner of Ecumenism, yet whose final goal gives no quarter to a foreign doctrine. There is a power so overwhelmingly oppressive that the epitome of it's glory is remembered to the rest of humanity as the Dark Ages. Any unbiased and honest study will demonstrate that this dark force, which is so deceptive that it has you and ten million others mistakenly calling it 'Christian,' is none other than the spawn of the Vatican. |
Date: 6/16/2002 5:17:00 AM From Authorid: 24924 Vert, "Any fool can see" how ridiculous it IS to assume that everyone who doesn't believe in Christianity MUST be a satan worshiper. Osiris, Thank you for that reply. I can't remember when I've run across a reply on here which I wanted to PRINT. That one, is a keeper. Each point you made is not something that I haven't learned or read somewhere before, but the way you collectively and concisely put together that way; well, Thank you for that. |
Date: 6/16/2002 7:46:00 AM From Authorid: 46266 Thinker, I do not want anyone to 'believe in Christianity' - that is dangerous. Believe in God's Word and you're safe. I have also never said that those who are not Christians knowingly worship Satan. Just that those who do not accept Jesus as the Son of God are either deceived or have not read all four gospels. |
Date: 6/16/2002 8:47:00 AM From Authorid: 17525 Hey Vert, I know you're feelings on christianity, but if you refuse to align yourself with 'those other' people who believe just as you about the "son of God" or the 16th Son of God or the 22nd Son of God in religions history, then perhaps you need a new name for your belief. Christian's are those who profess the words of the New testament as absolute and reliable history. That Jesus is the Son of God incarnate in flesh who died for the salvation of mankind on a cross near Jerusalem about 2000 years ago. All those who profess these are called christians. If you wish to distance yourself from others who hate and preach bigotry, I understand that. But you cannot distance yourself from the term christian and more than they can and it's because of what you profess. A person who is not of the christian belief can love others, be charitable, be giving and selfless without adhering to the tenets of your belief. They are on a better footing spiritually than those who attend church, read their holy book profess the doctrine and tell others about the error of their beliefs. Intollerance is built into the doctrine Vert. From Sodom and Gomorrah to "go out into the world and preach the good news". I didn't write the books but I've read them and I have no use for them any longer. They are a nationalized religion loaded with fables in the OT and an expansion on the same them, re-written older myths and legends only geared toward control and power in the NT. Whatever we may say about it all, you have to remember that it is ONLY YOUR BOOK that teaches these things. One other thing you neglected to mention: There is a belief and a faith which grows and blossoms from a seed sown in the inner being which requires no books to formulate itself on. It sole purpose it the glorification of the human spirit as part of the ONE; as a Divine creation. It does not degrade the Deity's handiwork nor teach that any one is better than another but that all are brothers and sisters in the familyhood of Deity's creation. It has no super-heros of fictitious characters to boggle the imagination or violate natural law. It was not invented in a remote place or time in an unknowable or edited history. It's name is truth. It has only one aspect; that of Love. It is the real religion. It is practiced by many who call themselves Christian, Wiccan, Pagan, Muslim, Hindu, Buddhist, Taoist, et al. It has many faces but one body; That of the human body. It has many forms but one spirit; That of the human spirit. It is the REAL religion Vert. Just thought I'd add to your list. Don't want to leave out the most important belief, do we now. :-) Peace |
Date: 6/16/2002 9:04:00 AM From Authorid: 17525 My goodness Vert! I had no idea you had such contempt for the Vatican! Perhaps there's hope for you yet! ;-) Peace, |
Date: 6/16/2002 9:13:00 AM
From Authorid: 16671
Yes, thats what I said. But then You printed only one line OF WHAT I said and I dont believe that is very fair of you. You say you were raised christian, well being rasied christian doesnt make you a christian anymore than if your parents put a pentagramn necklace around your neck when you were born, makes you a satanist. Apparently lots of you MISS the whole message of the gospel of Jesus Christ and that is, "Romans 10 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. Romans 10:13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. To me someone that calls themself a Christian/wicca might as well drop the christian part as apparently THEY ARE NOT. ITs NOT how Good one is or what works they do in the flesh that Jesus is looking at. ITS their spiritual state. AND IF ONE truely KNOWS what the word OF God is saying. THen all your questions above will have BEEN answered. Why do you think that those of the Chrisitian faith say READ YOUR BIBLE?? DONT LISTEN TO MAN, but READ it for YOURSELF??? YOU cant find the ANSWERS as Apparently YOU dont really KNOW the questions. |
Date: 6/16/2002 9:17:00 AM From Authorid: 16671 I'll answer that for you but I'm sure you and many others on here wont like what I have to say. The difference is that unlike most people believe, there are two powers, two major spiritual powers on this earth. God and satan. NOW most dont believe in satan, which I find kind of strange but anyway, God tells us that POWER that is not of him, and he tells us that witchcraft is NOT of him, then it only stands to reason the this power is coming from the god of this world, namely satan. NOW for us that believe in the Bible, we know the end of satan when this world is over and done with and we know the end of those that refuse God, refuse JEsUS. So its the christian belief, or should I say the bible believing chrisitan as some christians dont even believe in the bible, let alone satan. So we bible believing christians, well yes, we do believe what I just told you. NOW lets say that IF it was your belief that all of those that believe like I do, well that some other end or not a good ending would come to them, would you not try to tell them about it? Would you not believe that if your wicca and your god/goddess wrote a book, that YOU believed was left as a witness for you to live by, to tell people about and this stuff of the spiritual nature, would you tell them NOT to use what you precieve to be of a bad spirit? |
Date: 6/16/2002 10:11:00 AM From Authorid: 24924 Vert, WHAT is the difference? You added the word: "Knowingly" which means you still DO believe that non-believers worship satan. Why not come right out and say it; why not be honest? Also, don't go getting into semantics, M'dere; as you know very well when I say 'believe in Christianity" that I mean: GOD/JESUS/God's word! Label it anything you like; it is all the same to me. Also, be careful who you say is: 'deceived'. I've read the Gospels. I assure you, I AM NOT THE ONE WHO IS DECEIVED. No other religion (that I know of) is so arrogant as Christianity; as to believe and assert that if you don't believe their way, that one is a satan worshiper, doomed to hell, and is "deceived". For me: THE MORE ONE STUDIES ALL RELIGIONS and in particular, if they really study Christianity, the Bible, and really examine it with a thinking, critical eyes and thought, they WILL reject it in it's entirety, and be all the better for having done so. THAT is what happened in my case, and many many others have and ARE doing the same. Vert, You don't have to pay one bit of attention to what I say, but perhaps you'd care to re-read Osiris's excellent replies. Lots of wisdom there, for us all. |
Date: 6/16/2002 10:50:00 AM From Authorid: 54908 Thinker, if you read the OT, the NT and the Koran. You will find the New Testament as the most loving and forgiving of the three. To state Christianity is more arrogant than Judaism (God's chosen people?) or Islam is absurd. |
Date: 6/16/2002 10:54:00 AM
From Authorid: 52140
Ok, Im not reading all that. But there is no sitting on the fence. You are either w/ Jesus, or you are w/ satan. If you are not living your life in a manner worthy of the Lord, you are w/ satan. Also, There has to be one right religion. I mean every religion in one way or another puts down the practices of another. Christianity is strict on what is good and what is evil for the sake of righteousness. Who's side are you one? JesusFreak |
Date: 6/16/2002 11:25:00 AM From Authorid: 17525 Well for those who believe there actually IS a fence to sit on, thats fine. But one can look at Jesus as a highly trained spiritual adept and a great teacher but NOT GOD, and also NOT believe in Satan. It is actually possible. What's more, it's LOGICAL! One actually CAN put aside all this either/or nonsense and still think. JMO peace, |
Date: 6/16/2002 2:29:00 PM From Authorid: 51979 TarHeelGirl, the Gods are not capitalized. They meantion gods like money, anything become your center of worship and therefor your god. There is only one God though. Satan can project differant gods. What I beleive means you are serving the devil because you are not serving God. you may not acknowledge you are, you may say you are not, but you are not serving God so you have to be serving the devil. Even if you don't believe in it you are in my beliefs. Osiris, read the bible and find that Christianity did not come to power that way, THAT WAS A KINGS WAY OF ENFORCING IT, do not be a fool and think that a humans choice is God's will, by no means is anyones way of spreading Christianity through violence and stuff God's will. And it is a fence, but to believe in the fence you must ne a christian, so it makes no differance how much you say that we are fools because we think that anyone not with God is with satan, that is what WE BELIEVE, so save your breath saying you don't believe in satan how can you follow him. |
Date: 6/16/2002 2:30:00 PM From Authorid: 51979 Osiris, Jesus is God, if you believe he was a spiritual leader you can not by any means throw aside him dying and bieng ressurected, he was God. |
Date: 6/16/2002 3:47:00 PM
From Authorid: 52140
awww *tear* my lil bro makes me proud |
Date: 6/16/2002 10:37:00 PM From Authorid: 17525 Vital Death. I respect your belief as being yours. But it is not mine and it is not the belief of the author of the post (wherever she is!)One can accept the life of someone 2000 yrs ago as a spiritual teacher and reject the notion of them being God. The first 2 centuries were a buzz with exactly that conflict. Philosophers and priests debated this point for HUNDREDS of years until Constantine put the glue to the doctrine for the purpose of unification of his empire. As to whether Jesus died in the manner conveyed in the Gospels is debatable. As to him returning to life again from the "dead" is even less likely. And let us not forget his ascending BODILY into heaven. That's also an important part of the belief. I've pointed this out in the past and I think I should do it again. The remains of Jesus are buried in a tomb in Srinigar, Kashmir. www.tombofjesus.com See for yourself. |
Date: 6/16/2002 10:55:00 PM From Authorid: 51979 Do they have DNA of Jesus Christ? And how would they know He was buried there? I mean this was more than 2000 years ago...how could they tell if it was really Jesus? ANd yes he went BODILY into heaven, He is God therefore He can do as he pleases. As for the tombofjesus.com...all I saw was a few eastern people in front of a house tomb thing...I could put "gateway to heaven" on my door but I don't really think it would work... And Jesus was rose from the dead...its not as if its likely or not Osiris...its that God rose Him from the dead...simple as that Jesus conquered sin. God can do whatever He wants, He could make Pluto orbit mars if He wanted to. And the Bible to me is history book. |
Date: 6/17/2002 6:52:00 AM From Authorid: 46266 Well I'm in a rush, and just read through Osiris' first 2 replies since my last post here. Osiris, LOL @ your comments on my feelings of the Vatican. I meant every word! Thanks for pointing out the option of New Age / Wiccan Oneness, but I'm studied enough to know that is NOTHING more than Communism, presented in 'loving' terms. If there is one thing I despise more than the Vatican, it's Communism. |
Date: 6/17/2002 9:22:00 AM ( From Author ) From Authorid: 15675 Hey everyone sorry i havent responded so far. Communisim?!?!? What in the world vertigo? If I remember correctly communisim is when the goverment controls how much money u get. How in the world does new age teach that?!?! I havent read anything that seems like communisim to me lol! Also sorry firstborn that i did not quote u rightly. |
Date: 6/17/2002 11:03:00 AM From Authorid: 51979 Actaully how much many you get is not communism. Communism is controlling YOUR life. Money is...socialism I believe. Or maybe totalitarianism...either way its not communism. |
Date: 6/17/2002 11:29:00 AM ( From Author ) From Authorid: 15675 oh okay then well still that wouldnt define new age. |
Date: 6/17/2002 10:46:00 PM From Authorid: 17525 Vitaldeath, you'll have to do more than look at the picture on the site. There is a wealth of information there. If you immediately close your mind, it's understandable, but you cannot change the facts the site displays nor the information contained in it. VERT, the notion of ONENESS in Deity is not new at all. The Ancient Greeks contemplated the idea long before the birth of Christianity. It is not Wiccan nor new age, it's ancient. Older even than your belief. Communism is a social order. Oneness is a spiritual truth. Peace, |
Date: 6/18/2002 7:02:00 AM From Authorid: 24924 VitalDeath, Christians refer to the following as mythological figures: Hercules, Osiris, Bacchus, Mithra, Hermes, Perseus, and Horus. ALL are pre-Christian Sun gods and yet all allegedly had gods for fathers and virgin mothers; had their births announced by stars and celestial music; were born around December 25th; had tyrants try to kill them in their infancy; met with violent deaths; and rose from the dead. Moreover, nearly all were worshipped by 'wise men' and were alleged to have 'fasted forty days'. |
Date: 6/18/2002 2:42:00 PM From Authorid: 51979 All those people were in Greek mythology, America and probably even Greece now think its mythology, hence the name, Greek mythology. |
Date: 6/18/2002 4:07:00 PM ( From Author ) From Authorid: 15675 Wicca is a old religion thats why they believe in that. U could call the bible mythology under those terms. |
Date: 6/21/2002 2:21:00 PM From Authorid: 46266 1) Christianity is the oldest 'religion' around. Sure, we were only called 'Christians' after AD 30, but I still worship the God of Adam and Eve in the way that He commands us to. 2) Communism and socialism are 2 very different things. Don't they teach you people about them over there? Communism can be very spiritual. Just look up the lyrics for 'Imagine' by John Lennon. |
Date: 6/21/2002 3:46:00 PM ( From Author ) From Authorid: 15675 It is proven that christianity is not the oldest religion look at eygptian and such things dated bc which would be before christ right? Okay sociailisim and communisim im not really seeing what it has to do wit either christinaity or wicca. |
Date: 6/22/2002 4:34:00 AM From Authorid: 46266 Queen Crazy, I agree with you. This godforsaken 'New Testament only Christianity' is just a couple hundred years old. But fully Bible-based Christianity is as old as the hills. Literally. |
Date: 6/22/2002 4:37:00 AM
From Authorid: 46266
"Imagine there's no heaven It's easy if you try No hell below us Above us only sky Imagine all the people Living for today... Imagine there's no countries It isn't hard to do Nothing to kill or die for And no religion too Imagine all the people Living life in peace... You may say I'm a dreamer But I'm not the only one I hope someday you'll join us And the world will be as one Imagine no possessions I wonder if you can No need for greed or hunger A brotherhood of man Imagine all the people Sharing all the world... You may say I'm a dreamer But I'm not the only one I hope someday you'll join us And the world will live as one." - John Lennon. And there we have it. Wicca , Communist and New Age beliefs all operating as one. It's a clever disguise. |
Date: 6/22/2002 10:31:00 AM ( From Author ) From Authorid: 15675 lol sure whatever veritgo but wait didnt the song say imagine no religion? Wouldnt that include all forms no matter how old of christinaity and any other religion and if your point is that the song says wicca/new age is communisim i have two points to say its not: a trad of wicca called the strega and im not sure how many other forms of wicca believe in it but that trad believe in the gospels of aradia. In the gospels she said there are 4 ages to mankind before the 'age/world of reasoning.' 1st age was age of the goddess then 2nd was age of the god which was just passing bout her time (1400's.) Then there was the age of the song starting then which basically is the age of predominance of christianity (not saying its bad) then there would be the age of the daughter (which in my mind is not far away.) In this age the church would fall and then paganisim wouldnt be so shunned. After the age of the daughter there is supposed to be that world of reasoning. In that world of reasoning is exactly what john lennons song says: no fighting, no counrties, no bad, no war etc. so how does that make is communisim? Oh also on that wasnt communisim invented in the 1800s (I swear i heard that somewhere) and there is proof that pagan/wiccan/heathen religions are all older then that (probably back with old testement times.) |
Date: 6/23/2002 6:28:00 AM From Authorid: 46266 As long as there has been sin, there have been heathen people who shun God and choose to follow an 'all-love' illusion that his nemesis, Lucifer, presents. Communism is all about no fighting, no countries, no war, no possessions, a brotherhood of man, all sharing themselves with others. So is the 'age of reason.' |
Date: 6/23/2002 10:31:00 AM ( From Author ) From Authorid: 15675 then wait arent u sayin john lennons song is about communisim? I guess im having trouble debating this because i need to research communisim more. DOnt christians say god is 'all love'? Why wouldnt he be? |
Date: 6/23/2002 11:09:00 AM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 15675
communism \Com"mu*nism\, n. [F. communisme, fr. commun common.] A scheme of equalizing the social conditions of life; specifically, a scheme which contemplates the abolition of inequalities in the possession of property, as by distributing all wealth equally to all, or by holding all wealth in common for the equal use and advantage of all. Note: At different times, and in different countries, various schemes pertaining to socialism in government and the conditions of domestic life, as well as in the distribution of wealth, have been called communism. Source: Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary, © 1996, 1998 MICRA, Inc. See as i mostly said its bout wealth. |
Date: 6/23/2002 11:13:00 AM From Authorid: 15621 Well, Im not disagreeing with you personaly, but I will say this..you say "If jesus lived he preached love and understanding"....Well, I think history is pretty plain, either he lived or its the biggest joke in the history of the world, with that said I ll say this "IF Jesus lived, he PREACHED, that he was the SON of GOD. |
Date: 6/23/2002 12:26:00 PM ( From Author ) From Authorid: 15675 okay that was my personal opinion lol. There is lots of proof he lived and i guess its hard to know everything for history has been full of bad people who have lied or altered the truths. |
Date: 6/25/2002 7:18:00 PM From Authorid: 46266 Nope, God is not all-love. Make no mistake, His love is perfect, but his justice is too. He cannot compromise on sin. Thanks for posting that definition of communism! "A scheme which contemplates the abolition of inequalities in the possession of property, as by distributing all wealth equally to all, or by holding all wealth in common for the equal use and advantage of all." Now consider this line from Lennon: "Imagine no possessions, I wonder if you can. No need for greed or hunger, A brotherhood of man. Imagine all the people, Sharing all the world." That's way more than a passing similarity. |
Date: 6/25/2002 7:19:00 PM From Authorid: 46266 Six Gun, I couldn't have put it better. |
Date: 6/25/2002 7:38:00 PM ( From Author ) From Authorid: 15675 See I have trouble believing in a 'vengeful god' (please dont interpet my adjective wrong lol) I understand if people do bad and hurt others that well obviously god or whatever u call it will not look upon them so kindly. But this goes into the whole 'good people and bad things happening to them' and 'karma' debate lol. |
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