Date: 5/24/2002 11:47:00 PM
From Authorid: 48525
Joseph Smith didn't translate the Bible, he translated the Book of Mormon using the Urmum and Thumum. As he correctly translated each passage, that passage would disappear (the passage in the unknown language, that is).Interesting to note, knowing that fun fact, that people of African-American decent according to LDS beliefs in the Book of Morman could not hold the priesthood, UNTIL the church was taken to court for discrimination, when suddenly, the prophet at the time had "a devine revelation from God", and African-Americans were now allowed to hold the priesthood, so it makes you kinda wonder what else did the Urmum and Thumum mistranslate??They are all similar in what they teach, but I think that they are all so poluted with man's ageandas to be "right" anymore.If the Bible is "God's Word", why are there more than ONE version of it, and who is man to second guess "God"? "Well I know what it says, but I'm sure God meant this..."  |
Date: 5/24/2002 11:59:00 PM
From Authorid: 48993
everyone is right and everyone is wrong .......... thats the simple truth here ... there is no "real" proof that any of these books about God or spirituality are correct ... the truth and the realness is within ones own heart and mind , i dont assume to be right about God , but i am right when it comes to how i belive , what i belive and why i believe .. and everyone can tell me i am wrong ...... but no one can know my true heart , or what my relationship with my God consits of so therefore , no one can say they are right or know the actual truth ....... they know what they believe to be true , and thats it!! and i think that any books containing things that comtribute ti self awarness , self help ans a spiritual understanding should be in school libraries for young people to check out , i dont belive however that any religion should be taught in schools.   |
Date: 5/25/2002 2:09:00 AM
From Authorid: 13974
the eternal debate.  |
Date: 5/25/2002 6:28:00 AM
From Authorid: 17525
Religions are like sides of a pyrimid. They all point to tha same source. They view it, however, from a completely different angle or perspective. Each has it's little piece of the puzzle and guards it viciously, claiming that their little piece is the entire puzzle. That's where religion and spirituality differ. One is a prescription of thought, the other is an embracing of manifest reality and truth devoid of dogma and doctrine. Religions cause wars. Spirituality sees the force behind the war as mans ego. Books are tools and are only good as tools. They do not complete the job in themselves any more than laying a hammer on an old roof and viewing the roof as being completed. Who decides? That question is best left to each individual heart. JMO  |
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Date: 5/25/2002 9:51:00 AM
From Authorid: 53326
They cant all be right bc they contridict each other. Like you say that Buddhists think Buddha (I know his real name, but there is NO way I can spell it correcly LOL) was God incarnate right? Well, we believe that Jesus (we meaning Christians) is God's only son and is God incarnate So they cant all be the same. As Christians we believe that Jews are right until the point of Jesus. They are waiting on the Messiah to come, and we feel he already has. We do believe in the same God. Mormons arent monotheists, Christians are, so we cant be the same. They beleive that there are many gods including the one we believe is the one and only God. So they cant all be the same. They all contridict too much |
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Date: 5/25/2002 9:53:00 AM
From Authorid: 53326
LOL! good point blue, they did the same thing about poligomy (sp). As soon as they were told either give it us or they (being the majority of Utah) would never be allowed to enter the union (the US) they decided well i guess its ok to just have one wife. lol |
Date: 5/25/2002 10:02:00 AM
From Authorid: 1631
*Applauds Osiris's comment*...  |
Date: 5/25/2002 12:24:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 15070
excellent answers! thank you....Osiris, you are of course correct, I liken it to Goddess/God is like an onion, with many layers, ultimately reaching the core, which would be truth. Hiya RorayBlue! You are correct of course, how ever Joseph Smith was in fact RE-TRANSLATING the bible, the beginning therefore can be found in the Words of Wisdom.Those of dark skin where forbidden to hold the Priesthood, because dark skin was a sign of God's displeasure, until divine revelation revealed, dark-skinned men COULD hold the priesthood. DaniDarlin & Pheduex...you are both correct also. There IS no correct answer. Every faith hold some aspect of what could be the truth. Thank you both for replying to my post......  |
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Date: 5/25/2002 12:26:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 15070
Hiya Ali & Sunshine2004.....glad you guys came & commented. Osiris has indeed spoken great words on this subject. Sunshine, not to bash our LDS friends, but LDS scripture has changed many, many times in the short time it has been a religion. Pologamy is just one reversal. Thank you for your comments |
Date: 5/25/2002 12:32:00 PM
From Authorid: 9130
GREAT COMMENT OSIRIS!!!!  |
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Date: 5/25/2002 12:37:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 15070
yes, DizzyMe......Osiris can always be counted on for good comments! *smiles* |
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Date: 5/25/2002 1:07:00 PM
From Authorid: 53326
Oh i know there have been many changes ... I was just naming one more |
