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The Phoenix Document and SEPT. 11th...................LisaNY1

  Author:  19173  Category:(News) Created:(5/15/2002 7:27:00 PM)
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WASHINGTON (CNN) -- U.S. authorities failed to recognize clues before September 11 about a potential terrorist attack, including an internal FBI memo that questioned whether Osama bin Laden was behind Arab students taking aviation lessons in the United States, a key Senate leader said Wednesday.



In an interview with CNN, Senate Intelligence Committee Chairman Bob Graham, D-Florida, said the House and Senate intelligence panels will hold hearings soon about various memos and reports, including one dubbed the Phoenix document, written by an FBI agent last summer.



key question, Graham said, would be "why these dots weren't seen and connected." The Phoenix document was the subject of a briefing for lawmakers last week, he said. The memo, he said, cited "an unusual number of Arab students" taking flight lessons in Arizona and raised "the suspicion that they had been sent there in a coordinated plot by Osama bin Laden in order to learn the U.S. civil aviation procedures." Asked whether the September 11 attacks might have been averted had the Phoenix document raised more red flags, Graham replied, "Well, it might have been if this had been seen in the context of other information, which indicated that there was a potential conspiracy to use commercial airliners as weapons of mass destruction."



Graham continued, "That could have started a chain of events, which would have disrupted September 11, but unfortunately because the information was not placed in the right hands or was distributed to too many places, there wasn't a single point of contact for analysis and reporting of what was going on. "We failed to put the puzzle together before the horrific event." Lawmakers, Graham added, "did not get a satisfactory answer" about why the memo did not prompt more FBI action and investigation.

Hopefully the Agencies will get it together...........Lisa

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Date: 5/15/2002 7:31:00 PM  From Authorid: 53324    Why the dots weren't connected, no one thought it could ever happen here, we were all ostriches including the Govt.---Grendel
Date: 5/15/2002 7:37:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 19173    Hi Grendel, Actually, this wasn't the only clue the government had. They had others they just didn't put them all together. They had intelligence information that a US airliner may be hijacked. The didn't know where or when and they weren't expecting them to use the airliners as suicide bombs.  
Date: 5/15/2002 7:44:00 PM  From Authorid: 53129    Im sure they knew about it, just like they knew that pearl harbor was going to be attacked.  
Date: 5/15/2002 7:48:00 PM  From Authorid: 45630    I think it's all too easy too place blame on people here. How many terrorist attcks have the FBI averted without the public knowing prior to September 11.  
Date: 5/15/2002 7:57:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 19173    I don't know Kurtvedder how many? The government knows there is a problem with intelligence sharing, that's why there is a bill trying to be passed, so that intelligence info will be shared between the agencies more freely and hopefully something like this can be avoided in the future. There is no one person to blame here, but hopefully the bill will help in some way.  
Date: 5/15/2002 8:02:00 PM  From Authorid: 45630    I think though that reports like this are just trying to find a scapegoat and sell papers. I feel that unfortunatly while the FBI may have received this information they are not meant to be mind readers. I think if secret organisations did share intelligence that would be great but where would it stop. Would other western countries then have to help out. Would the Australian information sector (ASIO) have to help out.  
Date: 5/15/2002 8:13:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 19173    Well Kurt you do have a point, yes it could be about selling papers, but If you go to CNN and read the story that goes with this one, they claim that reports about Bin Laden being up to something big are several years old. It just makes you wonder. Plus there have been several books written by authors prior to Sept 11th about how dangerous the Taliban are and how bad they hate Americans and were planning attacks on us.  
Date: 5/15/2002 8:19:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 19173    Plus another interesting thing that never made national news but it was in a reputable local paper here. An Arab high school student, in a school nearby told a teacher several days before Sept. 11th not to go to the World Trade Center on Sept. 11th because it's not going to be there after that. Or something along those lines, This is a true story and the teacher went to the cops and the kid was grilled for hours. I find it strange how a high school student in Brooklyn, NY knew something but the government had no clue. I don't know maybe people's eyes were closed so tight to the reality of this. Lisa  
Date: 5/16/2002 5:52:00 AM  From Authorid: 46565    I haven't heard the story about the kid in brooklyn knowing. I just can't imagine that that large of a network of people who planned the WTC attack all kept mum about it. I know one of them had to tell some people.  
Date: 5/16/2002 9:22:00 AM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 19173    46565 I think that's exactly what happened, there was a buzz going around the Arab community about some type of terrorist attack on the WTC. I think it turned out the kid had no direct ties to the terrorists but he did hear it through the grapevine...Lisa  

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