Date: 5/12/2002 8:21:00 PM
From Authorid: 51241
THOSE R GOOD QUESTIONS i suppose it wouldnt. i dont know y but i dont think it would be suicide.
Daywalker02  |
Date: 5/12/2002 8:25:00 PM
From Authorid: 1631
Although the individual was the victim of an attack they are guilty of the sin of pride and vanity. They are choosing to die rather than face a challenging life of disfiguration. I don't think their soul would rest peacefully with that decision. Just my opinion...  |
Date: 5/12/2002 8:25:00 PM
From Authorid: 33925
Its still murder..and if you really think about it..someone who has been repeatedly stabbed and had both feet broken isnt going to be thinking about how they are going to live AFTER they heal..they already figure they are dead..IMO..xoxo  |
Date: 5/12/2002 8:26:00 PM
From Authorid: 50193
This is almost paradoxical to me. >Vampyre Gerbil<  |
Date: 5/12/2002 8:27:00 PM
From Authorid: 48993
i dont believe in hell , and i wouldnt consider this suicide , if i was in this situation it would not of been me that did this to my body it was by the hands of another , and by not calling 911 , i would just be letting fate step in , if my body wasnt supposed to leave this earth it wouldnt.  |
Date: 5/12/2002 8:27:00 PM
From Authorid: 16069
The way i look at it....If you die its Gods will. If a person kills themself, i think its just their time to go.  |
Date: 5/12/2002 8:27:00 PM
From Authorid: 49459
Did you ever see the movie "Seven"? I remember this one part where this girl, I think she is a model or something, is mutilated and left with a cell phone glued to one hand and a bottle of sleeping pills in the other. She opts for the sleeping pills. I don't really know what my opinion on this is. I've never really thought about it.  |
Date: 5/12/2002 8:29:00 PM
From Authorid: 48993
and thank you author so much for putting the words "graphic" in your title that was very courteous of you!  |
Date: 5/12/2002 8:32:00 PM
From Authorid: 3263
Nope. I want to live.  |
Date: 5/12/2002 8:42:00 PM
From Authorid: 16705
if the LORD had wanted you to die HE would not have given you the ability to make it to the phone. Hamb918
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Date: 5/12/2002 8:48:00 PM
From Authorid: 51684
Personally, I would consider that to be something very selfish and very vain. Selfish because there are others I'm sure who would care about the person and would not like to see them dead. If it happened to someone I cared about, and I found out somehow (say, through an autopsy) that they could have saved their own life, I would be very upset. Anytime a desision is made regarding one's own death, they very seldom ever think about who it might hurt. Of course, that's just my opinion. It is vain simply because it displays vanity. It sounds somewhat proud saying, "I don't want to live like this because I don't want to go through the ridicule or pity that I might get." Again, it is just my opinion. ~Charisma K.~  |
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Date: 5/12/2002 8:52:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 53707
i think dani darlin and ali had good points in what they said, im still not sure on this one though, it is a tough question to actually come up with a concrete answer for, but thanks to everyone to all so far who've submitted their opinions => |
Date: 5/12/2002 8:55:00 PM
From Authorid: 17525
Ahhh, now the third scenario. What if there was no phone??? :-)  |
Date: 5/12/2002 9:08:00 PM
From Authorid: 53055
That's suicide all the way. If you choose to die for any reason at all rather than living, then it is considered suicide by me. -bloodstone  |
Date: 5/12/2002 9:10:00 PM
From Authorid: 50435
I sorta agree with Charisma. But they would have no way of knowing, the loved ones I mean, whether or not you had the opportunity to get to the phone. They could definitely tell them how approximately how long it took you to die and some idea of the kind of pain, but they could never really know that you made a "concious" decision. They would just assume, surely, that you would have if you could have. As for the question in the post, I don't really know. I would depend on where the stabbing occured, blah, blah, blah. If it was just my body then I might be able to live with it. But my face, I dunno. Maybe it's vain but it's something that I would rather not live with. And the feet...OUCH. I don't know how I would handle not being able to walk. I have pondered before at various times about whether or not I could live without an arm or leg, or even a finger(I play guitar, bass, and stuff...sorta need them all). I just prefer to leave that off until it happens, which I hope it never comes to. So I can't honestly answer the question with any degree of certainty...sorry. Take care and that was a really good question...Gallytuck.  |
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Date: 5/12/2002 9:12:00 PM
From Authorid: 53055
LOL to Osiris. That's a good scenario, though. With that scenario, I wouldn't consider it suicide. |
Date: 5/12/2002 9:24:00 PM
From Authorid: 22080
ok lets try not to bring religon into this debate anywho i dont think it is  |
Date: 5/12/2002 9:31:00 PM
From Authorid: 43200
I don't think it would be considered suicide...  |
Date: 5/12/2002 10:09:00 PM
From Authorid: 21867
Suicide is willfully ending ones life...be it through action or inaction. For instance, lets say you are walking across a railway track and get your shoe caught under the rail...now, your choices are 1.remove the shoe and live, or 2.stand there, be hit by a train and die. Ultimately you make a choice and have to live with it...in this life AND the next. No one said making a choice was easy...often it can be very hard. So while this person would live with physical scarring...they would STILL live. Heres an example of what I mean from real life...my life actually. In my twenties I used to hang around with some very unsavoury people...druggies/gang members and the like. When I moved away from that way of life, started getting myself straightened out, many of these guys hated me for it...even suspected I was a cop or something. One day I visited them to say hello and see how they were doing. While I was there, one of them came up behind me and put a shotgun to the back of my head...they placed a joint in front of me and said "Smoke this...prove you aren't a cop...or I'm gonna blow your head off". So that was my choice - smoke that joint or very probably have my brains splattered all over the lounge wall. I turned to this guy and said "Bro, I'm not a cop...I'm also NOT going to smoke that joint. Now YOU have a choice...put the gun down or pull the trigger" He put the gun down. Choices are not always easy...but you still you have to make them. Peace,  |
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Date: 5/12/2002 10:42:00 PM
From Authorid: 32705
Um, you have an interesting imagination. I wouldn't call it suicide, I'd call it lack of motivation and will to live. The person didn't hurt themselves, after all. Also, I've heard that suicides do not go to hell, that's something they say to discourage you from doing it |
Date: 5/13/2002 1:09:00 AM
From Authorid: 42945
no I dont think its suicide, and I dont believe in a Hell anyway...good post...cheers  |
Date: 5/13/2002 4:46:00 AM
From Authorid: 46266
The wages of sin is death, NOT being granted eternal life anyway, albeit in pain. A suicidal person therefore has nothing to fear, because they will die anyway in hell, the lake of fire, whatever you want to call it. So that's not a factor. OF COURSE this is suicide. Look at what Agent Smith said, about getting your shoe caught in a track. Now let's say an enemy tied your shoelace to the train track, and you refused to untie it - would that be suidice? DOH!  |
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Date: 5/13/2002 4:04:00 PM
From Authorid: 51911
I think its murder, cuz you didnt choose to die, you weren't expecting that |
Date: 5/13/2002 6:19:00 PM
From Authorid: 15941
Ok, A building is burning, Your hanging out the window of a 5 story building you can't breath. What ya going to do? I'll tell ya, Your going to jump. Every single building I have seen burn, The people have jumped to their own death.  |
