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Date: 5/4/2002 4:31:00 PM
From Authorid: 18527
LOL my best bud is gay and he's one of the nicest people I know!  |
Date: 5/4/2002 4:31:00 PM
From Authorid: 46069
oh boy...im leaving before the fireworks start on this one...**runs away**  |
Date: 5/4/2002 4:32:00 PM
From Authorid: 5252
i find nothing at all wrong with gays. i see them just like everyone else. =)  |
| Date: 5/4/2002 4:33:00 PM ( From Author ) From Authorid: 35430 i know, hyperchick. there's this gay guy @ my college and he's really nice. ~*PSIblue*~ |
Date: 5/4/2002 4:33:00 PM
From Authorid: 40081
I see nothing wrong with gays. They are just people like everyone else in the world. They make their own decisions like everyone else. *HUGZZ*  |
Date: 5/4/2002 4:36:00 PM
From Authorid: 12118
Gays are just like everyone else, they just love a different way. lol, I'm the exact opposite of gay,though..if I were a guy, I'd be gay,lmao. I love boys that much..oh well.. Gay people are cool; I have lots of friends who are. the guys are especially good to take shoppin' with ya love,  |
Date: 5/4/2002 4:37:00 PM
From Authorid: 33409
I have a couple friends that are "gay" I love'em there so cool I have nothing wrong with them at all  |
Date: 5/4/2002 4:41:00 PM
From Authorid: 46527
Nothing is wrong with them, they simply have one preference that certain intolerant people find distasteful.  |
Date: 5/4/2002 4:43:00 PM
From Authorid: 11348
I agree there's nothing wrong with them. I think a lot of people get upset though because it contradicts with their religious beliefs... and I think the fact that people would let their religion choose who good people are and aren't is horrible. People should not be judged by their sexuality, relgiion, race, nationality... or anything for that matter other than the person they are inside.  |
Date: 5/4/2002 4:49:00 PM
From Authorid: 29806
there's nothing "wrong" with them, they just prefer their own sex. Years of religious persecution created the bad hype they have. Let's thank people like Jesse Helms for keeping tolerance to an all time low. Never mind the fact that child molestation is an almost strictly homosexual act, they can't be around our children, right? What idiocy. -ID-  |
Date: 5/4/2002 4:49:00 PM
From Authorid: 38683
Nothings wrong with it! They are just like everyone else!!!!  |
Date: 5/4/2002 4:57:00 PM
From Authorid: 19875
Love is love. Thats what I believe. I have absolutly nothing against gay people. I have a few gay/bi friends and they're really cool. And it's great having a guy to take shopping with you ! I find that gay men have great taste in clothes  |
Date: 5/4/2002 5:17:00 PM
From Authorid: 47983
Their just normal people. Geez.. Their diffrent people with different needs. I would never pick on anybody whose gay. It's like picking on me just because I love dogs rather then cats.  |
Date: 5/4/2002 5:36:00 PM
From Authorid: 52563
My mom has a problem with them and I argue with her abut it constantly. She said yesterday that AIDS was a punishment to Gays for being gay. She makes me anger.  |
Date: 5/4/2002 5:55:00 PM
From Authorid: 51049
I have nothing wrong with a person who is gay as a person, but I feel that if god wanted people to be gay he would not have created the opposite sex. Fire Cracker  |
Date: 5/4/2002 6:11:00 PM
From Authorid: 16916
Your right, there is absolutly nothing wrong with them, No sorry I cant say that I remember you If ya wanna chat you can message me *Huge Chocolate Kissies*  |
Date: 5/4/2002 6:59:00 PM
From Authorid: 609
Dartsya said it best 'Love is Love'. I used to have so many gay friends, my bro inlaw is gay and his boyfriend DUH lol I am so close to my bro inlaw, he jokes that Im so sweet if he were not gay he'd chase me lol. His boyfriend is great with my daughter, shes got him wrapped around her lil finger lol...he makes goo gaa faces at her lol its so cute. I love them both. I think what is wrong is the intolerance they face, but its slowly being whittled away. And I remember ya Hey nice to see ya back   |
Date: 5/4/2002 7:05:00 PM
From Authorid: 22080
theres nothing wrong with them they are some of the nicest people  |
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Date: 5/4/2002 8:50:00 PM
From Authorid: 48129
Nope, there is nothing wrong with gays or lesbians. *~ChicaBella~*  |
Date: 5/4/2002 9:28:00 PM
From Authorid: 41067
How does she explain the straight people who get it then 52563? I'm not trying to antagonise, just interested.  |
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Date: 5/4/2002 11:11:00 PM
From Authorid: 52563
I asked her that Tandris and she said something like "They get it when the gay people decide to sleep with the straight people" |
Date: 5/5/2002 4:55:00 AM
From Authorid: 36967
From a Christian Perspective, The Bible is agianst Homosexaulity, so we have to preach agianst homosexuality. It is possible to preach against Homosexuality and not be homophobic or anti-gay, yes that is possible. It is possible to hate Homosexuality, and Not hate Homosexual people, that is possible. |
Date: 5/5/2002 7:05:00 AM
From Authorid: 15394
hmmm all these name labels.. you are this you are that he is that he is this she is that this and the other... how bout we stop labeling the person by their sexual choices?? WE ARE PEOPLE!  |
Date: 5/5/2002 5:41:00 PM
From Authorid: 47296
No where in the Bible is homosexuality ever mentioned. Many christians preach that Sodom was destroyed because they practiced homosexual behavior. Read the entire story of Sodom, and you will find that God destroyed Sodom for other reasons. People also like to quote two certain verses in the Bible as saying homosexuality is an abomination. That is untrue. What God was saying is that it is wrong for those people who had a spouse to go to bed with a man, which was a common fertility rite in ancient times. Once again, read the entire chapter before taking one verse out of context. There is nothing wrong with being gay. It has a been a normal alternative lifestyle since he earliest times of man. It is the ideals of people who believe they are morally superior that is the problem. For more on what the Bible does not say, then go to the following site, http://www.truluck.com/index.htm . Doctor Truluck was a pastor for 20 years, and also taught at Baptist College in Charleston, SC.  |
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Date: 5/5/2002 8:08:00 PM
From Authorid: 36967
Warrior Spirit, Homosexuality is Mention in the Bible as a sin. It does not matter if a Pastor was a Pastor for 100 years, or taught in Bible College for 100 years, if he contradicts the Word of God, then he is the one that is wrong. He is NOT lead by the Holy Spirit. God says it is an abomination, then it is an abomination. |
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Date: 5/5/2002 8:26:00 PM
From Authorid: 36967
Everyone is talking about Matthew Shepards, but I wonder who here has heard about Jesse Durhkising. |
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Date: 5/5/2002 8:53:00 PM
From Authorid: 19875
Actually, it does say in the Bible that it's wrong. Trust me on this one. Of course, I don't back up that claim, but it does say it, loud and clear. Over and over again |
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Date: 5/5/2002 9:16:00 PM
From Authorid: 47296
Drkptrs, maybe you had better learn to read your Bible better. Are you going to refute the word of religous scholars? Since when are you an expert on what the Bible says? What are your credentials? Take the time to read Dr. Truluck's site, and judge for yourself, or are you afraid that you will learn the truth? Many people today who call themselves christians are led by words that are not the word of God. The word of God, as written in ancient Hebrew and Greek is nothing like the word many read today. Not everything that is read in the Bible is even the word of God, but the word of the ancient Holy Roman Church. Take the time to study the History of the Bible, and learn for yourself. Let not your eyes be blinded by false beliefs. |
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Date: 5/6/2002 4:57:00 AM
From Authorid: 36967
I do study my Bible, I don't need a scholar to tell me what it says, only the Holy Spirit. I was at his site, and he is full of it, not sure if he is even born agian. I know Greek and Hebrew, in fact Greek and Hebrew are the two most easiest languages to learn, and the two most plain languages to learn. When you do learn the acient Greek and Hebrew(which is one of the most easiest things to learn) you can know what the manicripts say, it says what it says. Greek and Hebrew really did not change that much as well. Homosexually is a sin, and you CAN get delivered from it. I know many ex-gays,(myself), the Bible even says that you can change. |
Date: 5/6/2002 9:42:00 AM
From Authorid: 15621
Just a point, hebrew has changed alot over time and from my understanding the greek language and the hebrew language have many definitions for words that we in english have only one for so I wouldnt say they were easy.  |
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Date: 5/6/2002 11:45:00 AM
From Authorid: 36967
Both Langauges has not changed, they may have changed some, but Not nearly like the other languages. Like my last comment, that is why God's Word is in those two languages. The King James is the Word of God. I don't go along with what this so called Holy Roman Church(also known as the Roman Catholic Church), really is not an organization of God. So I can't go by what they say. I live by the Word of God, it says to preach agianst Homosexuality, so I will obey it, by obeying God's Word, does that make me a bad person. |
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Date: 5/6/2002 11:46:00 AM
From Authorid: 36967
If the religious scholars go agianst God's Word, so I will refute them. |
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Date: 5/6/2002 12:50:00 PM
From Authorid: 15621
I will say one thing, after doing bible study using what is called the closest hebrew text known to us today translated from the oldest known hebrew and greek when compared to the KJV is a little different. So if you have that amount of faith in the hebrew and greek text I would say yo uwould be better off using a different text instead of the KJV, hey my girlfreind bought both for me and although I havent had a chance to look through them real good I have read my aunts versions and like them much better |
Date: 5/6/2002 12:58:00 PM
From Authorid: 17516
So tell us, Dkptr (you really need some vowels in that name! LOL) are you a Hebrew scholar? How about Greek? Where did you get your degree?  |
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Date: 5/6/2002 1:00:00 PM
From Authorid: 17516
I want to point something else out to you, Dkptrs. Just in this post, I have found several grammatical errors in your responses. If you can't even use your native language properly, why should we trust what you have to say about another language? |
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Date: 5/6/2002 3:10:00 PM
From Authorid: 36967
I intentional left out the Vowels, you are the only person to ask me that. I learn both Greek and Hebrew by reading and practicing the languages. Greek and Hebrew, it takes the average person about 2 and half months to learn Greek and Hebrew. People don't realize how easy it is to learn these languages. Main reason why they are so easy to learn is that these two languages really have no slang, and so plain, any Greek and or Hebrew writtings, mean what they say, you don't need to interpert. |
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Date: 5/6/2002 3:39:00 PM
From Authorid: 36967
The manuscript text that the King James is translated from is different than the manuscript text that other Bible translations translate from, that is why. The King James is translated from the Textus Receptus, all other Bibles are translated from the what I call, the corrupted manuscripts. |
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Date: 5/6/2002 4:14:00 PM
From Authorid: 17516
I'm afraid your belief that the KJV is translated solely from the Textus Receptus is simplistic. The origin of the KJV is long and complicated. There are many sources for the KJV including (indirectly) the Latin Vulgate, which was translated by the Catholic church and is the source of the bible the Catholics use. In addition to this, the KJV deviates from and adds to the Masoretic text which is the same text that the Jewish Publication Society publishes today. You can buy it in most places with the English translation included. I have to add, Dkptrs, that for you to say that your 2 month self-taught Hebrew and Greek is equal to a legitimate bible scholar is a bit arrogant. If your belief cannot stand up to facts, then it is just wishful thinking. |
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Date: 5/6/2002 4:16:00 PM
From Authorid: 17516
BTW author, I'm sorry for taking over your post like this, LOL. If I have time, I'll do my own post on this, if Dkptrs will agree to debate me on this. |
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Date: 5/6/2002 4:17:00 PM
From Authorid: 29806
Oh boy, should've known this would've become a religious debate. I think I'll sit back and see where this goes before I give my 2 cents worth. -ID- |
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Date: 5/6/2002 4:30:00 PM
From Authorid: 15621
If Greek is so plain and doesn't need to be interpreted, tell me how would you define the Greek word "a[ggeloß" or angel? |
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Date: 5/6/2002 4:34:00 PM
From Authorid: 22080
actually drkptrs i have a friend whos full blood greek and what they teach for greek in schools is totally different then street greek as what he calls it |
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Date: 5/6/2002 4:39:00 PM
From Authorid: 47296
Drkptrs, not only are you wrong, you are very wrong. Ancient Hebrew and Greek had never spoke of homosexuality, they did speak of the ancient fertility rites of Baal, and stated that to practice those rites was an abomination. Do not read into the Bible something that it clearly not there. Also, study the edicts that were passed down from the beginning of the Holy Roman Church up until about 600AD. Many of these edicts were written into the Bible as the word of God. The fact is that the early scripture of the Holy Roman Church combined scripture of all the churches in the Middle East. Some of the scripture of the other churches was left out. The idea was to bring all the churches under one set of scripture. The Holy Roman Church was one of only a few churches prior to 600AD that condemned homosexuality. Every time a debate comes up concerning gays, you are quick to judge them as morally wrong. You do not have a right to judge, and NO, the Bible does not give you such right. The only person with the right to judge is he that is totally without sin. There are none among the living on Earth that can state that. A day will come when we each will die. When our day comes, then we will know the truth. It would be a shame to find out after 2000 years of religion, that it was all wrong. |
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Date: 5/6/2002 4:48:00 PM
From Authorid: 47296
Karma Killer, I would love to see an honest debate on the facts of the Bible. Unfortunately, there are some who believe only certain verses of the Bible, without reading the whole text that applies. They also believe that the Bible is totally accurate, with no possibility of human error. I have always asked one question that no one has ever been able to answer. In the New Testament, there are verses that are said to be the word of Christ. Who was the person writing down every word that Christ said as he said it, and how do we know that they did not leave out one word that would change the entire meaning of a verse? Peace be to you. |
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Date: 5/6/2002 5:22:00 PM
From Authorid: 17516
Oh Warrior, there are many, many instances like that in the Bible. For example, when Jesus was being tempted in the wilderness who was around to witness his conversations with Satan, when the women went to the tomb and found it empty one of the gospels says that they were told not to mention it, and they didn't! so how did the writer of the account know of it. Most interestingly, the language of Jesus was most probably Aramaic, yet the Gospels were written in Greek. If the Gospels are an accurate representation of what Jesus said, why translate his words. I could go on and on, but I really just came to this post to let Drkpts know we've made a debate for him and the apologize to the author of this post for highjacking it. Feel free to come check out our debate Warrior Spirit. |
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Date: 5/6/2002 8:30:00 PM
From Authorid: 36967
The Bible tells us that we do need to judge people, judge what they do. 2 Corithians 2:15 is one verse "He who is spiritual judges all things." Those who live for Jesus Christ according to that verse will judge all things. Matthew 7:15 we are told to stay away from false prophets, so question, how do we tell if someone is a false prophet unless we judge the person. So if you feel that ones without sin is the one who allowed to judge, then you better tell me to stop telling me to judge people, because you are judging me. |
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Date: 5/6/2002 10:29:00 PM
From Authorid: 29806
Drkptrs, who even said the Bible is correct anyway? Who says it's the word of "god"? The church, right, and who says the church is right? The Bible, right? See this little circle here? Just because the bible says ANYTHING about homosexuals is 'immoral', which it doesn't, doesn't mean it's correct. Who in the church decided that homosexuality is a sin? Why, the very same people who said that the jews were "evil, and must convert." Remember that little diddy called the Inquisition? Why, if anyone is immoral, it is the church itself. They allowed slavery, they stayed out of the holocaust, allowing millions to die without doing ANYTHING, but hey, they weren't christian, right? Your religion has preformed more atrocities than any group of people whatsoever, and yet YOU have the oddasity to judge others. So, the next time you think that homosexuals, whoever are "evil, wrong, downtrodden" whatever you want to call it, get off your holy high horse for ONE second, and think about all that you have done in your life. Can you truly say that you have lived the perfect life? Can you say that you have done NOTHING wrong? No, you can't. To err is human, and that's what we all are, human. Despite what you holier-than-thou bible beaters may think, with your egos bigger than any man-made structure, you are all human. And to each their own. If someone prefers those of the opposite sex, so be it, if someone chooses to believe in a female deity, so be it. If someone doesn't even believe in a deity, let it go. The whole world, like it or not, will never believe what you believe. In fact, half of the bible isn't even original, alright? The MEN (And I can't stress this enough) who MADE UP the Bible, are just lucky that plagurism and copywriting didn't exist back then. I mean, the story of Job for example, is actually an ancient sumaritan story. So, back to the subject, you have no right to judge ANYONE other then yourself. Until YOU can say, without a doubt, that you are without fault, and on a higher level than anyone else upon this mortal realm, you have no right to pass judgement upon anyone except yourself, be it in the name of Jesus, Allah, Buddha, Pee-Wee Herman, it doesn't matter. You Christians must realize that your church no longer rules over the world. So learn to accept people of different religion, sexual orientation and such, or leave this country. This is the land of the free you know, this country is not ruled by any religion. You want to live in a country ruled by religion? Try Iran. Let's see how you like being persecuted for your beliefs for a change. Christians were always the ones judging, so you'll never know what it's like to be shunned for who you are. So until you do, get off our backs. And by us, I mean those different than you, not just homosexuals. -ID- |
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Date: 5/6/2002 11:03:00 PM
From Authorid: 17516
Hey ID, I liked your diatribe. I have many Christian friends on this site and I would never say those things to them, because they have not distained me with a holier-than-thou attitude, but in this case I think your comments hit the mark rather well. Lack of control (over others) is a bitter pill to swallow, don't you think? |
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Date: 5/7/2002 7:13:00 AM
From Authorid: 36967
OF COARSE I AM A SINNER. The only thing different about me is that I trust in the Name of Jesus Christ and what he did on the cross. I am NOT Trying to rule this land. I am told by God in his Word to Preach agianst all sin. So I have a problem with what you told me to do, if I obey God, I will not obeying you, well if I obey you, then I wil not be obeying God. So I can only obey you or God and both of you. So I'll obey God. Well evenually the whole world will believe, but for many it will be too late for them. Adolf Hitler was one who did not believe in God or wanted nothing to do with God. Well let's say this, Adolf Hitler NOW believes in God. I am NOT a holier than thou person, there are some people I can say that about, but I am not a holier than thou, or trying to be. I just obey the word of God(many times I do fail). That is all, nothing more or less. The Holy Bible gives us the right and command to judge, so I will obey that. I preach the Gospel, people may not want to hear it, I cannot and will not intend to do anything about it. Now CHristians ARE being persecuted all over the world, even in the US(not nearly as bad as the other countries), the US the Christians have it the hardest, even harder than the Gays. Now unless I a hurting you or anyone else(I do not see how) Then You get off my back. |
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Date: 5/7/2002 7:22:00 AM
From Authorid: 36967
Get back to the Gays, the one who said that the gey teenagers have the highiest rate of suicide, and like 1 of every 3 suicides are gay related, THAT IS NOT TRUE. In fact many serveys concluded that it is the Striaghts that have the higher rate of suicide. Look in History, at the groups that are being persecuted, like the Jews in Europe during WWII, look at what they went through, and yet they did not commit suicide. Look at the blacks, all through out history, look at what they went through, and guess who had the higher rate of suicide, it was white people, in fact the ones that had the highest rate of suicide is the slave masters. Look at Christians in other countries, like China, Sudan, they go through it rough, even killed for being a Christian. Yet these Christians don't commit suicide. Don't get me wrong, I am sure that some gay do commit suicide, NOT nearly as high as some people are saying that it is. Look at what people in the past when through, like the Jews in WWII, The Blacks, these people went through harder times than the gays will ever go through, and these people did not commit suicide, so WHY should it be different with Gays. |
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Date: 5/7/2002 7:29:00 AM
From Authorid: 15394
It's different because people like you persecute them through your preaching, drkptrs... they have moral fiber drkptrs... you telling them they don't because of sexual choice is where you are judging and YES you are judging and NO it doesn't say in the bible to attack them like I have seen you do. If you really wanted to make them see the "light" you would state your opinion and leave it at that, this that you preach does nothing but turn others away... and for the record... YOU DO HURT PEOPLE with your words... so THINK before you spout, YOU are turning people away!!! |
Date: 5/7/2002 9:23:00 AM
From Authorid: 48993
my opinion and belief of God is a loving caring all knowing all powerful God , who only wants us to obey the golden rule , gender doesnt matter as long as the love is true!!!! and one more thing i would like to add ... a question of sorts ..... wasnt King James a "world leader" with a vast power behind him??? tell me how can someone like that be 100% correct in his asumptions of a God and what God wants from each person , isnt it possible seeing as he was a political leader he had his own agenda?????????????????????????  |
| Date: 5/7/2002 9:29:00 AM From Authorid: 37354 Catholic Bibles also judge homosexuality quite harshly. Can't blame this on King James. Hugo |
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Date: 5/7/2002 10:34:00 AM
From Authorid: 29806
I love how people like you Drkptrs, hide behind your deities, saying that they told you to do what you do. That's pretty pathetic. You have no evidence that your "god" told you to preach anything. You have no right to judge, and you say that these words "Don't hurt anybody." What about homosexuals? I'm pretty sure that they would find what you say offensive. But what would you care, right? After all, you militant self-righteous christians stay in your small gated communities. Far from oppression, because the only people around you are just like you! You don't serve "god," you serve your church. And nobody's ever proven that what the church says is the "word of god." So before you go out judging those different than you, think about this: If your god is so loving and omnipotent, why would he push for people to throw stones at those different then you? -ID- |
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Date: 5/7/2002 11:49:00 AM
From Authorid: 36967
I am not throwing stones, just repeating what God said in his word. |
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Date: 5/7/2002 11:53:00 AM
From Authorid: 29806
You have no evidence that "god" even said such a thing. The PEOPLE who wrote the Bible wrote whatever they wanted in there. If its "god's" word, then why was it edited? Why was the entire section about reincarnation taken out and hidden by the church? -ID- |
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Date: 5/7/2002 2:06:00 PM
From Authorid: 17516
Drkptrs, I just made this comment on another post, but it is appropriate here: I just wanted to add that your comments ASSUME that everyone believes your Holy Book as fact. Guess what, many do not. So, in order to present a sound argument to non-believers you either have to leave the Bible out of it, or prove that it is fact. You have not done so, therefore your "evidence" is meaningless. |
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Date: 5/7/2002 6:25:00 PM
From Authorid: 47296
Drkptrs, maybe you can tell us what is being described in the following verse, Song of Solomon 2:3 "I sat down under his shadow with great delight, and his fruit was sweet to my taste". |
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Date: 5/7/2002 6:52:00 PM
From Authorid: 41067
Go ID and Karma Killer! You're so right. |
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Date: 5/7/2002 7:10:00 PM
From Authorid: 36967
Karma, I know not everyone believes in the Bible, many people who even say that they are Christians do not believe in the Bible(I wonder if they really are). I do not assume that. |
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Date: 5/7/2002 7:13:00 PM
From Authorid: 36967
ID, show me where God's Word has been changed, I agree that man have attempted to change it to suit themselves, but their attempts failed misserably. If these people who try to change God's Word, would get a grade on their success, well their grade would be a F. A big fat F. God makes sure that his word would never change. Anyone who says the Bible has changed, really does not know what they are talking about, since they are not lead by the Holy Spirit of God. The Bible never had anything on reincarnation. |
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Date: 5/7/2002 7:14:00 PM
From Authorid: 36967
Warrior Spirit, that just means that the wife is enjoying her husband. |
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Date: 5/7/2002 7:24:00 PM
From Authorid: 29806
Well Drkptrs, it's not even "god's" word. It's MAN'S word, MEN wrote the Bible and MEN changed the bible. Just like how science and history books change from time to time. I mean, c'mon, do you have any proof that your "god" wrote the book? -ID- |
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Date: 5/7/2002 7:29:00 PM
From Authorid: 29806
Alright, you want to know why homosexuality is gone against in the Bible? It wasn't originally, back in Roman Times, having a "male mistress" so to say was commonplace, as were orgies. But when Christianity became the religion of the Roman Empire, things had to change, a roman aristocrat decided that sex without the purpose of conception was a sin (This man was actually one of those who had an orgy at his place every week, mind you, talk about hypocrisy.) And since sodomy is a sexual act that you can not concieve by. Hence, sodomy was outlawed, and homosexuality, since there is no WAY you can get pregnant by it, was as well. Now, what's the best way for a man with alot of pull in the government to have his ideas become laws? Why, through religion of course, so the Bible was changed to suit what the Roman aristocrats decided was right and wrong. -ID- |
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Date: 5/7/2002 7:32:00 PM
From Authorid: 36967
you get 50 people, tell them to write something, anything their hearts desire. Make sure that you do NOT tell any of these 50 people that other people are writting too. Make sure that these 50 people do not even know each other or heard about each other. When these 50 people are done writting, collect them all, and see if they write about same thing. What are the chances of that happening, 1 out of 10 to the 100 power. That would be 1 and a 100 zeros. That is very small change. You would have a bigger chance winning the lottery that for that to happen. Guess what, the Bible was written by 50 people, who did not know each other or heard about each other, and to have everybody write about the samething. If that is a coincidence, then a Very Big Coincidence. I would find it easier to believe that something guide then to write what they wrote. |
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Date: 5/7/2002 8:33:00 PM
From Authorid: 29806
And how do you know this is true? Did the Bible tell you so? Then it's not credible evidence. -ID- |
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Date: 5/8/2002 11:40:00 AM
From Authorid: 36967
ID I wish I can twist things around like you do. |
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Date: 5/8/2002 12:43:00 PM
From Authorid: 29806
Me? Me twist things around? You my friend, have a terrible grasp on reality. You base your entire life on a book that a bunch of MEN wrote 4000 years ago, and refuse to change with the times. It's just sad. -ID- |
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Date: 5/8/2002 1:32:00 PM
From Authorid: 17516
I'm sorry to tell you, Drkptrs, that again you don't know what the Bible says. Your reply about the 50 ppl is supposed to illustrate how "amazing" it is that the Bible is soooo harmonious. Well, I must tell you that there are many, many places that do not agree. Take the 4 gospels (and Acts) accounts of the resurrection. Or take the account of the death of King Josiah in Kings and Chronicles. Not only do they NOT agree on when and how he died, the KJV has added words to this account. I'm sorry to say, your "proof" is not proof at all. |
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Date: 5/8/2002 7:46:00 PM
From Authorid: 36967
Karma, show me how they don't agree. |
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Date: 5/8/2002 7:49:00 PM
From Authorid: 36967
I have a secret to tell you, I have been hiding this for a while, and I need to come out, I need to tell my secret, I may get bashed around, but I am prepared for it. I may get rejected, but prepared for it. This secret has been tearing me apart, and I need to tell you all something, here is my secret, I am straight. I have finally came out of the closet, I am straight. |
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Date: 5/9/2002 8:04:00 AM
From Authorid: 17516
Hey guess what? I don't care about your sexuality, gay, straight on in between. And no one else should. THAT is the point of all this. What someone else does in their bedroom with another consenting adult(s) should be irrelevant to anything else in their life. As for the contradiction, I did a post on it. I'll see if I can find it and repost if you agree to debate me on it with more than "because the Bible says so" |
Date: 5/10/2002 6:42:00 PM
From Authorid: 34476
Hey -ID-, you stated this in one of your earlier replies: "Why was the entire section about reincarnation taken out and hidden by the church? -ID-". I have heard similar statements a few times from various people, and am interested in the sources for this. Msg me if you like with them, please  |
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Date: 5/10/2002 8:25:00 PM
From Authorid: 17516
Even though I've read some on this subject, I don't know where to find the sources. I'd be interested in seeing this too. Post it for us, please ID. |
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Date: 5/11/2002 12:38:00 PM
From Authorid: 29806
I'll have to go dig around for the books about it. I'm not sure where to find them. -ID- |
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