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Date: 4/27/2002 4:04:00 PM
From Authorid: 15675
All religions borrow from each other and we all are worshipping the same 'being' just in a different way and quite a bit of us think our ways the only 'right' way. Though its not.  |
Date: 4/27/2002 4:06:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 45906
YES yes that is why there is such things as non denominational churches  |
Date: 4/27/2002 4:21:00 PM
From Authorid: 16671
many of the pagan holidays are now intermingled with christian or secular holidays, this is fact. i myself, am non denominational.  |
Date: 4/27/2002 5:15:00 PM
From Authorid: 3125
Para..I will assure you this..God's true Words and righteousness are not based on anything whatsoever except His will..What man may choose to follow is their choice..  |
Date: 4/27/2002 5:38:00 PM
From Authorid: 15070
thank you, Para, you are so right. I was thinking tonight about Jesus commanding his followers to "consume" his flesh & "drink" his blood. Were those not practices among Pagan & Druid tribes that believed that by consuming the flesh of an enemy, you inhertited all that person's strength? And that since "blood" was the life source, by consuming it, you inherited eternal life? There are tribes in Africa that practiced this till the 1950's. Some say, Adi Dada Ami (sp?) still did, along with his guerilla fighters. And I calling the disiples guerillas? NO! But I am saying that what is now embraced as a "christian" concept, has much older, deeper roots, that have nothing to do with the Jewish Rabbi, Jesus. Also, it is no secret the "holidays" have been a mixture of Pagan & "christian" since the first century, A.D. good post!!!!  |
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Date: 4/27/2002 5:40:00 PM
From Authorid: 15070
BTW-I agree with Queen Kaja, it is the same creator. I cannot imagine that all those Native Americans,Buddists,Taoists,Pagans,Witches,Wiccans & the other 3/4 of the world are hellbound because they do not follow strict guidelines laid out in one belief system.~JMO~ |
Date: 4/27/2002 7:51:00 PM
From Authorid: 36967
I am a Christian, That is why I do not celebrate many traditions that churches made up. Like Christmas, Easter, Halloweeen, has origins in Paganism. I do celebrate the Jewish traditions, like Passover, Rosh Hannah, etc. True Christians, who want to worship God in spirit and in truth, get there traditions, beliefs all from God himself. He wrote down in the Bible. You do not go to heaven/hell for following a system or not following a system, you go to heaven or hell is based on weather you trust Jesus as your savior or not. The Bible did not start with paganism, it started with God.  |
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Date: 4/27/2002 7:57:00 PM
From Authorid: 36967
We do not all worship the same creator, if you say that we all do, I guess these eviromental waccos and animal rights waccos worship the same creator as we all do, and we should let them run our lives and try to make us all misserable. How far are you going to take this. Every religion contradicts each other, so if every religion creator contradicts each other, then how can you say we all worship the creator. I do take part in Christmas, Easter, Halloween, Earth Day, for origins in witchcraft. Problably one of the worse days to celebrate is earth day. It was last monday I believe. I am open minded, only open to the truth. |
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Date: 4/27/2002 8:17:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 45906
thank you to the person who pointed out the flesh and blood thing....i find cannabalism sick ohh well.....as for you the one with a spider on the tag well people are entitled to what they want to think if not the USA would not have been founded......but to beat the point....yeah we did you just dont wana admit it |
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Date: 4/27/2002 8:45:00 PM
From Authorid: 16671
Para: Jesus doesnt mean to literaly eat the his flesh and drink his blood. When he said that about the bread and the wine, he was telling us that when we partook of bread to think of it as his body that he gave so willingly to die on the cross for us. And the wine as the blood that he shed, the holy unsinfully blood that was taken to the alter to be poured out for all of mankind. So that we would have a choice of whom our father would be. The Father and god of this world, satan, or the Father and God of our eternity, God the FAther. |
Date: 4/27/2002 10:17:00 PM
From Authorid: 34814
Not to mention that some of their stories are Pagan with different names. Like jesus and diynorious. I am worlds worst speller. Holidays and some traditions. HUGS  |
Date: 4/28/2002 12:54:00 AM
From Authorid: 27678
Lots of us Christians aren't into to the pagan dna, but instead are into love and compassion, too, so don't lump us all, k?  |
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Date: 4/28/2002 3:14:00 AM
From Authorid: 49689
Sorry toots I'm staying out of this one..... *Pyriel*  |
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Date: 4/28/2002 10:11:00 AM
From Authorid: 52140
yeah all the stuff you mentioned is pagan, but it isn't Biblical. but what does the wine and bread have to do w/ nething great post JesusFreak  |
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Date: 4/28/2002 10:14:00 AM
From Authorid: 52140
I am w/ FirstBorn I am nondenominational. cuz God said what He meant and meant what He said, not 100000000.... different other things. He said things and meant it specifically. So denominations are man made, therefore, they are religion, whereas normal Christianity (the way it is intended) is a faith. send me a msg if that doens't make sense. JesusFreak |
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Date: 4/28/2002 10:17:00 AM
From Authorid: 52140
LadySpiritGuide, if you are saying what I think you are saying about "consuming" Jesus' flesh and "drinking" His blood. He said the wine is my blood and the bread is my body. Wine and bread are symbolic. JesusFreak |
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Date: 4/28/2002 10:23:00 AM
From Authorid: 36967
It was NOT the pagans that did us, it was the Holy Spirit of God that did us and shape us. |
Date: 4/28/2002 10:37:00 AM
From Authorid: 48525
Yes, bread and wine ARE symbolic. I think what LSG was saying is that the use of bread and wine was also taken from Paganism, as were most holiday rituals used by various religions today. I find it both amusing and hypocritical that Pagan beliefs were so wrong and evil and had to be stomped out of existance, yet it was ok to "adopt" their rituals...so when you split hairs, more folks are practicing Paganism, just all dressed up in the pretty, palatable guises of Christianity and other "acceptable" theological belief systems than they are even aware of.  |
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Date: 4/28/2002 10:41:00 AM
From Authorid: 48525
Yes, bread and wine ARE symbolic. I think what LSG was saying is that the use of bread and wine was also taken from Paganism, as were most holiday rituals used by various religions today. I find it both amusing and hypocritical that Pagan beliefs were so wrong and evil and had to be stomped out of existance, yet it was ok to "adopt" their rituals...so when you split hairs, more folks are practicing Paganism, just all dressed up in the pretty, palatable guises of Christianity and other "acceptable" theological belief systems than they are even aware of. |
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Date: 4/28/2002 10:49:00 AM
From Authorid: 48525
Sorry for the dual posts. I'd also like to say to drkprts that it does say in your Bible that we are the stewards of the earth and therefore responsible for its care. Man was not meant to live in the poluted cess pool that the earth is becoming. Your attitude towards the environment and animals seems very unchristian to me. |
Date: 4/28/2002 12:04:00 PM
From Authorid: 36079
Any Christian that has done there homeworkj knows that any holiday not mentioned in the Bible are risky to say are Christian holidays. I have been to churches that refuse to make any holiday other then those mentioned in the Bible part of there service. Truthfully these holidays are not Christian, but they are just that, some had there own holiday but conjoined with another for whatever reason. Weather or not to celebrate them for a reason other then pagan I do not know is exactly ok, I do not however believe it is a sin.  |
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Date: 4/28/2002 1:57:00 PM
From Authorid: 36079
I guess I'm not allowed to celebrate my birthday cuz that was first a pagan ritual? I guess I can't believe my text books cuz someone other the a Christian might of written it? I don'tthink so. There is a line on weather your practicing paganism or you are following something started by paganism, but not necassarily pagan. So what if others religions drank bread and wine at there whatever they did. I can tel you that Christians didn't adopt it, Jesus himself said to do this in remembrance of him. |
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