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Can Someone Help Me To Understand This???........Ladyluck

  Author:  33925  Category:(Discussion) Created:(4/17/2002 5:19:00 PM)
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Hey everyone!

Something has been weighing heavy on my mind alot lately...Actually its been an ongoing thing, but I have been thinking about it alot more lately.

My youngest Son, DJ, likes....no loves barbies..LOL..he also enjoys playing with most of his Sister's toys...Her dolls, barbies, dollhouse...etc. He said he prefers those types of toys..He really isnt into cars and trucks and army men and things like that..He does like some action figures though..If they look like real people...LOL

I find that so many people have a real problem with this...Like yesterday for example..we went to McDonalds after his doctors appointment...He wanted a Happy Meal so we of course went to check out the toys available..there were two types..."boys" toys and "girls" toys..He could either choose dinky cars or he could choose little dolls...Well I know my Son and I knew what he would choose. He wanted a Doll..LOL..So off to the counter to order we go...He gives his order and says he would like to see the toys...they AUTOMATICALLY haul out the dinky cars...My son says "No, not them, the dolls"...the cashier gave him AND me a very strange look...I then asked if there were any boy dolls...She looked at me and said "of course not!" and never even took the toys out for DJ to look at! Then a another cashier comes over and we again ask him to see the toys...HE hauls out the dinky cars too!! LOL...I say.."No we would like to see the dolls"...HE gives me the strangest look..and takes out a book which shows the dolls...and low and behold there were BOY dolls! My Son promptly picked Peter Pan! LOL

WHY do people have to gender base toys, and why do they act like something is wrong when a child chooses a toy that is NOT meant for their gender?? To me, a toy is a toy!! Why would I waste my money buying my Son something I KNOW he isnt interested in and will not play with?? I think I would rather invest my money is something I know he will enjoy..whether it be a "boy" or a "girl" toy!!

xoxo Ladyluck

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Date: 4/17/2002 5:21:00 PM  From Authorid: 13119    I think your son is incredibly lucky to have such an openminded mom. You are doing him a great service by not catering to societies whims. GOOD SHOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  
Date: 4/17/2002 5:24:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 33925    Thank you Magoo..I dont believe in telling my child he cant have something he really wants because it is a "girl" toy...He should be allowed to play with whatever he chooses to play with..xoxo  
Date: 4/17/2002 5:26:00 PM  From Authorid: 36646    Well, how old is your son? My cousin was like that until age 10, and he is going to be 12 this year. Most people like that eventually grow out of it. (note: my cousin is a bit odd still...long story)~*~Mica~*~  
Date: 4/17/2002 5:26:00 PM  From Authorid: 42539    i have a 4 year old girl that likes trucks better than dolls anyday  
Date: 4/17/2002 5:26:00 PM  From Authorid: 23101    Lady Luck, at least he is doing something he is enjoying! You don't need to worry about it. He is doing what he wants, and you not stopping him is great! He has an open-mind on what girls like (great for mnarriage in my opinion!) and what boys like ( great for friends)!! See, he has both sides! xo xo xo,  
Date: 4/17/2002 5:26:00 PM  From Authorid: 23101    Lady Luck, I agree with you 100%! xo xo xo,  
Date: 4/17/2002 5:27:00 PM  From Authorid: 42539    i say let them play with what makes them happy as long as it not guns and knives  
Date: 4/17/2002 5:28:00 PM  From Authorid: 38989    I see absolutly nothing wrong with it. When i was younger, i hated barbies and dolls, i wanted action figures, and cars, and nerf guns, and footballs, and pretty much all the guy toys! gender specific toys are a load of bull, a kid should be able to play with whatever they want to! i know i will let my kids play with whatever they want, well, that is, when i have kids!  
Date: 4/17/2002 5:28:00 PM  From Authorid: 23101    Child Of Kali & Lady Luck. I would think that as long as your kids are happy, then let them do what they want!! xo xo xo,  
Date: 4/17/2002 5:29:00 PM  From Authorid: 23101    Cild of Kali, thats a good point you got there! As long as they are happy let them play with what they want. As long as it is SAFE! xo xo xo,  
Date: 4/17/2002 5:30:00 PM  From Authorid: 21867    Good on you...allow your son to find his own expression...  
Date: 4/17/2002 5:31:00 PM  From Authorid: 23101    Forgotten Colorz it's a good point you have there. Gender SHOULD NOT MATTER!!! I mean, it's not like they put on girls toys GIRLS ONLY FOR THIS TOY. And BOYS ONLY FOR THIS TOY. It's kind of wierd for people to think that it's not okay to have a girls toy when your a boy, or a boys toy when you are a girl! xo xo xo,  
Date: 4/17/2002 5:31:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 33925    Thank you LJ!! *hugs*...You are 100% right and very wise for your age!! BRAVO!! xoxo  
Date: 4/17/2002 5:32:00 PM  From Authorid: 23101    Agent Smith, I am proud of Lady Luck!! Thanks for stickin up for peoples everywhere LL! xo xo xo,  
Date: 4/17/2002 5:33:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 33925    Mica my Son is 7 years old..but I dont think age has a whole lot to do with it..ALL kids eventually outgrow certain toys anyway by the time they are 10-12..I have 3 other kids and all have gradually outgrown their toys and are into older things...they are 14, 12 and 11..xoxo  
Date: 4/17/2002 5:33:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 33925    LOL...Child of Kali! I agree!! xoxo  
Date: 4/17/2002 5:34:00 PM  From Authorid: 23101    OH My GOSH! Lady Luck, thank you so much! I just think it's wrong NOT TO LET YOUR CHILD play with what they want to. You are an amazin women. I mean you are standing up for people EVERYWHERE by letting your kid play with a toy that is 'meant for a girl'.. Who came up with girls and boys toys anyways? xo xo xo,  
Date: 4/17/2002 5:35:00 PM  From Authorid: 19586    My son went through a stage. It only lasted about six months. He played with all his sisters dolls. and he got some of his own. I dont know what made him stop playing with them. Maybe it was that he started going over to friends houses a lot more. It shouldnt matter toys are toys. Kids do outgrow them eventually! ~icunurse  
Date: 4/17/2002 5:36:00 PM  From Authorid: 23101    LL, age really doesn't have anything to do with it. We all go through this stage. I want to play with some of my brothers action figures when I was REALLY little! xo xo xo,  
Date: 4/17/2002 5:36:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 33925    forgotten colorz..I agree about the gender based toys..they make no sense to me..except being another way to separate the boys from the girls..kids are KIDS!! I also played with trucks and cars when I was a kid..did all the things my brothers and my boy cousins did..actually I was better than them at baseball! LOLOL..xoxo  
Date: 4/17/2002 5:37:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 33925    That is exactly what I am doing AS..I will not stifle any of my children..I want them to beable to express themselves and not feel self concious (sp) because others say it isnt "normal" what is normal anyway?? LOL..xoxo  
Date: 4/17/2002 5:37:00 PM  From Authorid: 23101    Toys are toys, and if other people want to play with dolls that are boys who cares. I would join in with these airplane game with little boys anytime. And I wouldalso join in with girls! xo xo xo,  
Date: 4/17/2002 5:38:00 PM  From Authorid: 49666    i am glad to hear you are open minded. people who act like there is something WRONG it have problems. it's a stereotype: if a girl wants to play with cars no one seems to mind... ~soulseeker
Date: 4/17/2002 5:39:00 PM  From Authorid: 49719    Well looky here, I played with Barbie AND Ken (a male Barbie) dolls as a kid and I'm a girl!  
Date: 4/17/2002 5:39:00 PM  From Authorid: 23101    I think that sometimes kids wanna see what others' like to do. And I think that if your son is havin fun, then let him have fun!! Maybe I should come over.. I have cool barbies!! I can play (I can take my brothers cars)!! Hehehehehe!! xo xo xo,  
Date: 4/17/2002 5:40:00 PM  From Authorid: 24003    Oh good grief! Who cares if the boy likes "girl" toys. Hes a kid..and its good that he can play with which ever he chooses. Some people just have their mindsets. I wouldnt think it was strange at all. My son likes to wear my high heels! LMAO Hes a kid! Love u Aunty LL!  
Date: 4/17/2002 5:40:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 33925    ICUnurse...Peer pressure and wanting to fit in are major problems for kids...and alot of it is how the parent deals with things...Some parents will have fits when they see a little boy playing with a barbie or a doll..I have seen it..and I have seen it in my own family and heard it from my own family members as well...comments about my son being feminine and me creating a homosexual..that is a load of bull as far as I am concerned..You cant CREATE a homosexual..LOL..xoxo  
Date: 4/17/2002 5:41:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 33925    LJ you are right..toys are just that..TOYS!! To a child there is no specific meaning..or gender base..they are toys..until someone else (another child or an adult) tells them that it isnt..xoxo  
Date: 4/17/2002 5:41:00 PM  From Authorid: 23101    I didn't have a Ken doll. I really wanted one though. I think I played another Barbie as a Ken. But I had fun. I also liked my brothers little hotweels cars, I used to play car games like that, and indian war games with him ALL the time!! xo xo xo,  
Date: 4/17/2002 5:42:00 PM  From Authorid: 23101    Lady Luck, when some parent says you can't play with that thats a girls toy. And tryes to get them interested in boys toys, I think thats WRONG!!! xo xo xo,  
Date: 4/17/2002 5:42:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 33925    Soulseeker you are so right!! I dont remember anyone ever having a problem with ME playing with my Brother's toys...xoxo  
Date: 4/17/2002 5:44:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 33925    LOLOL..Irishgypsy! I remember when I was a kid I had Donny and Marie dolls! LOL..I thought they were great and loved Donny's purple socks!! DJ has several types of barbies..he has the spice girls, Britney Spears, several Kens, GI Joe and his jeep..xoxo  
Date: 4/17/2002 5:44:00 PM  From Authorid: 23101    Green Eyes I like your point too! I liked to where my daddies shoes! I still do, I love it!! xo xo xo,  
Date: 4/17/2002 5:45:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 33925    LMAO!! Greeneyes that is soooo cute!! He probably has a blast too!! LOLOL..*hugs to you sweety*..xoxo  
Date: 4/17/2002 5:46:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 33925    I agree LJ!! its the parent that is WRONG, not the child!! A child only goes by what they know they like!! You are sooo smart you know that?? You are going to be an awesome Mom some day!! xoxo  
Date: 4/17/2002 5:48:00 PM  From Authorid: 19586    I do think it was friend peer pressure with my son! I find myself more laid back than some of the other parents. I have more things to worry about in raising my children than what toy they are playing with. I do expect them to learn respect for elders, manners, basically good behavior at all times. I know, I am dreaming. My goal is to raise to kids that turn into healthy respectable adults. I cant see how my son playing with a doll is going to scar him for life! ~icunurse  
Date: 4/17/2002 5:49:00 PM  From Authorid: 18516    Some people are just close-minded. I think it's great you let him choose what he wants to play with. When I was little I liked playing with barbies and little cars..it makes NO difference.  
Date: 4/17/2002 5:49:00 PM  From Authorid: 23101    Lady Luck LoL. Thanks, it's the parent that is worng not the kid, that is TOTALLY CORRECT! Thanks so much for posting, I like this!! I think that I want to bookmark it.. Oh wait- I ALREADY DID!! xo xo xo,  
Date: 4/17/2002 5:50:00 PM  From Authorid: 23101    LemonadeMe, I agree 100% with all of EVERY word you just said! xo xo xo,  
Date: 4/17/2002 5:50:00 PM  From Authorid: 23101    LemonadeMe, that is what we are all trying to say! I think you put it into the BEST word sence! Thanks!!! xo xo xo,  
Date: 4/17/2002 5:51:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 33925    I cannot see how it would scar him either ICUnurse..I agree...Our goal SHOULD be to raise, happy, healthy, well adjusted, and productive kids....not be focusing so much on what they prefer to play with and reading things into it that are just not there! xoxo  
Date: 4/17/2002 5:52:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 33925    LOL Lemon..you are right! Hey you never know, my son could grow up to be an EXCELLENT Daddy because he has learned to nurture..He is such a gentle little boy..xoxo  
Date: 4/17/2002 5:52:00 PM  From Authorid: 7654    My son was the same way when he was small...Someone once told me that if a little boy played with dolls then you would never have a problem showing his love to people....So far, my son is the most loving of all my children...  
Date: 4/17/2002 5:53:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 33925    LOLOL..LJ you are too funny!! Heehee..I am sitting here giggling at you right now..your GREAT!! xoox  
Date: 4/17/2002 5:54:00 PM  From Authorid: 18516    Thank you LJ!   
Date: 4/17/2002 5:55:00 PM  From Authorid: 18516    LL, your prolly right..I bet he'll grow up and be a great daddy one day! Now if he takes over the household chores that the mothers do..will ya send him over here? lol  
Date: 4/17/2002 5:55:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 33925    You are so right Nansassy!! My Son is the most loving out of my four children..he is a little cuddlebug..and he also has no problem hugging and kissing his older brothers and sister..xoxo  
Date: 4/17/2002 5:57:00 PM  From Authorid: 21867    Awesome LL...thats so awesome...its hard enough for the youth of today to find themselves without being told who they are...shown who they are...forced to be who they are...when in fact its only what 'society' believes they should be. Freedom is a beautiful thing...an important thing...and if we can't nurture it on a personal level...one child at a time...how can we logically expect freedom to exist in our society. You're a great mum LL...keep up the great work Peace,  
Date: 4/17/2002 5:57:00 PM  From Authorid: 23101    LOL Lady Luck, thanks for sayin that! hehehehehe that gave me a SMILE! LMBO!! xo xo xo,  
Date: 4/17/2002 5:58:00 PM  From Authorid: 17417    LL did I ever tell you how I grew up,probally not but this is a Great Place to do it LOL LOL...I am the Oldest of 5 Girls and 1 Boy and the Boy was born after the 4th, Girl ...When I was very young,for as far back as I can remember my Dad wanted a Boy and I got to be that BOY ...He bought me a Boys bike,which I can tell you I used a pillow to ride LOL...A fishing pole,baseball glove and autographed bat from Joe DiMaggio *ok dated myself there LOL LOL...I played with bugs,made little beds for worms with match boxes with sheets of toilet tissue for blankets LOL...I once had my Dad bring me home a snake that had to have been a foot long,I can remember my Mom running out of the house and yelling "It's the snake or me"...Dad and I just looked at one another and smile a evil smile LOL LOL...When my Sisters came along they were bought Beautifull Dolls while I was presented with a Cow BOY Outfit,Hat,Guns,Boots the whole thing LOL...Do I think that You or You Fantastically openminded son DJ have a problem...Ummmmm Heck No LOL LOL LOL...I obviously grew up,Married,had 4 Wonderfull Children,24 Grandchildren and 1 Greatgrandson but I must tell you I am partial to the boys because I get to go fishing and snake hunting again ...I think DJ is fine and anyone else who thinks this is a Problem needs to look at them selves and why it bothers them so much...Great Post LL !!!...Much Love In Spirit,  
Date: 4/17/2002 5:58:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 33925    Awww thank you AS!! That means alot to me..I love my kids to pieces and I want them to be happy..and I want them most of all to BE THEMSELVES! xoxo  
Date: 4/17/2002 6:01:00 PM  From Authorid: 23101    Gramma Linda, as I am saying, it doesn't do anything harmful to you childs growth. Look how Lindy turned out!!! 'Cause I love you linda! xo xo xo,  
Date: 4/17/2002 6:03:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 33925    LOLOL...Linda!! heehee...Sounds like you grew up ALOT like me!! My Dad used to dress me and my older brother identical..bluejeans, denim shirts, jean jackets, work boots and the EXACT same haircut!! People thought we were twins!! LOLOL..xoxo  
Date: 4/17/2002 6:06:00 PM  From Authorid: 23101    LL, nothing bad haoppened to you!  
Date: 4/17/2002 6:06:00 PM  From Authorid: 23101    xo xo xo,  
Date: 4/17/2002 6:09:00 PM  From Authorid: 23101    Do you understand it now? JustKidding! xo xo xo,  
Date: 4/17/2002 6:11:00 PM  From Authorid: 31255    Thats just the way our society is set up. Its really kinda sad. Its just like how people have babies and put the girls in pink and the boys in blue. So they fit the gender stereotypes. Thats what these gender toys are really all about, just stereotypes we place upon children and people find it a bit odd when a child doesnt want to stick to the stereotypical boy or girl. It's really stupid... I think there are actually several books about this written by some psychologists. You will see its more of society having an issue than the child.  
Date: 4/17/2002 6:12:00 PM  From Authorid: 31255    P.S. I bet your daughter wouldn't get such an odd look if she asked for a car. LOL because tomboys are acceptable... tomgirl (if thats even a thing) just isn't I guess... kind of a double standard if you ask me.  
Date: 4/17/2002 6:13:00 PM  From Authorid: 23101    Noodle Toodle, you are so smart. So is everyone that replied to this post! xo xo xo,  
Date: 4/17/2002 6:18:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 33925    Toodles you are right! It is a society issue..and NOT the child's issue..until society makes it their issue..then they start to worry about what people are thinking about them...its sad really...and you are right...noone has a problem with my daughter wanting to dress like a boy sometimes...they think its cute..and she has lots of "boy" toys..noone seems to care about that either...xoxo  
Date: 4/17/2002 6:28:00 PM  From Authorid: 10245    My oldest son (almost 4) is just as happy playing with Barbie as he is playing with his trains, of course he HAS to have her cruising around in her snazzy little VW Bug with GI Joe I've never understood what the big deal is either...  
Date: 4/17/2002 6:29:00 PM  From Authorid: 23101    Mercury, I think if parents give the boys and girls BOTH boy and girl toys that they will turn out knowing things from both sides. Sometimes boys use dolls for there toys. xo xo xo,  
Date: 4/17/2002 6:32:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 33925    LOLOL..Mercury, DJ carts all the barbies around in GI Joe's jeep too!! He will cram them all in and take them "cruising"..he has a GREAT imagination..and its so cute to watch him! xoxo  
Date: 4/17/2002 6:33:00 PM  From Authorid: 10245    .. and what do you think people whould say if they saw him like THIS, playing with a Barbie?? LOL http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/mercury_48176/vwp?.dir=/Family&.src=ph&.dnm=collin%27s+wings.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/mercury_48176/lst%3f%26.dir=/Family%26.src=ph%26.view=t  
Date: 4/17/2002 6:34:00 PM  From Authorid: 10245    and GI Joe ALWAYS gets to drive! LOL  
Date: 4/17/2002 6:37:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 33925    OMG!! Mercury he is adorable!!! LOLOL...What a beautiful little boy!! LOVE the wings!! LOLOL...GI Joe ALWAYS drives here too!! heehee...xoxo  
Date: 4/17/2002 6:41:00 PM  From Authorid: 10245    Thanks LL... he is a little cutie, isn't he?... but I can hear the comments now.... LOL   
Date: 4/17/2002 6:44:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 33925    LOLOL..let em comment all they want..He sure looked happy about those wings didnt he?? You can check out my little cutie on Banner's site..I have his and my other three kid's pics up with mine! xoxo  
Date: 4/17/2002 6:51:00 PM  From Authorid: 10245    I think I did see them before... but I will check it out again to be sure   
Date: 4/17/2002 6:55:00 PM  From Authorid: 10245    yep... I peeked before you have a beautiful (not so) little family! DJ reminds me of what my little guy might look like in a couple years   
Date: 4/17/2002 6:59:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 33925    I was thinking that too! Those really pretty eyes and that cute little grin! LOL..xoxo  
Date: 4/17/2002 7:05:00 PM  From Authorid: 10245    but not Collin... my LITTLER guy, Daniel, though they are almost carbon copies of each other Here's one of him >> http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/mercury_48176/vwp?.dir=/Family&.src=ph&.dnm=Daniel.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/mercury_48176/lst%3f%26.dir=/Family%26.src=ph%26.view=  
Date: 4/17/2002 7:16:00 PM  From Authorid: 51960    LOL. each of my 3 brothers each had a doll. my sister and i had trucks and dinky cars. theres nothing wrong with it. people are just well dumb.
Date: 4/17/2002 7:19:00 PM  From Authorid: 24732    I just wrote a report on this very topic for my sociology class. We had to go into a toy store and observe toys for different genders. I'm pretty sure the advertising that the toy companies do has a lot to do with this. On McDonalds commerials the specifically say "Barbies for the girls and hotwheels for the boys" It's to the advantage of the companies to have gender specific toys. If there were all "gender neutral toys" they would sell less. You would think they would sell more that way, but they can target different groups of kids this way. Girls watch different tv shows than boys do, so they put different commercials on at different times. Although I'm not exactly sure how hot pink became a feminine color? It certainly is blinding when you go through the "pink ilse" in the store.  
Date: 4/17/2002 7:24:00 PM  From Authorid: 47699    When I was little, I didn't care for cars, trucks, G.I. Joes or any of the usual boy toys. On the same token, I had absolutely no interest in girl toys either. I always thought dolls were really creepy for some reason. I was more into rubber bugs and jigsaw puzzles and things like that. Then again, nobody ever accused me of being normal. I guess there is no explaining why people have the tastes they do and that includes kids. There's nothing wrong with your son. I guess a lot of people are too judgemental and narrow minded. They seem to think that everyone has to fit into a cookie cutter mold and if they don't, something must be wrong with them. Ignore those types, Lady Luck!  
Date: 4/17/2002 7:27:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 33925    OMG they look almost identical!! Look at that big boy with his pepsi and ballcap!! Now how cute is that?? LOLOL..xoxo  
Date: 4/17/2002 7:33:00 PM  From Authorid: 10245    sorry that link was so long... it messed up the whole page ( Yep... he's my little ham-bone   
Date: 4/17/2002 8:04:00 PM  From Authorid: 23101    I would kind of be honored to have my child be playing with barbies! xo xo xo,  

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