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Date: 4/5/2002 8:48:00 PM
From Authorid: 15675
Wiccans do but u have to pay for supplies u use.  |
Date: 4/5/2002 8:59:00 PM
From Authorid: 23610
I think this is the way it should be. I have never understood why ministers and preachers are paid. To me it doesn't seem compatible with the teachings. To each his own....but I find it far more admirable and Christ-like to perform these duties without having to be paid for it....not to mention it stands a greater chance of keeping the person honest and sincere.  |
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Date: 4/5/2002 11:02:00 PM
From Authorid: 16671
I sort of disagree. As Jesus tells us that a laboure is worthy of his hire. You also have to remember that the MORMON church is the one that pays the bills on the church, sees to it that the church is built, the lights, gas, everthing that IS needed is paid for by the MORMON church. The ones that do the preaching and the teaching also have the benifits of getting jobs through the mormon job service, getting free groceries, through the mormon food plan, and getting vouchers for utlities, clothing and household items free through the desert Industries which is a part of the mormon church impire. While the one preaching is NOT getting caSh, he also does not have to pay anything out of his pocket toward the church. AND gets all these free benifits. However an indepentent church that is not run by a big religiouse owned impire, they have to Pay the bills, maintain the church, build the church, at the same time the money that comes in from the tithes, feed the poor, clothe the naked, help those in need in general. Rarely does the peacher make or have enough left over for any of his own needs in life. Many times the ones that are doing this, have a job besides. So please, lets not knock the independant server of God. Lk:10  : Therefore said he unto them, The harvest truly is great, but the labourers are few: pray ye therefore the Lord of the harvest, that he would send forth labourers into his harvest.Lk:10:3: Go your ways: behold, I send you forth as lambs among wolves. Lk:10:4: Carry neither purse, nor scrip, nor shoes: and salute no man by the way. Lk:10:5: And into whatsoever house ye enter, first say, Peace be to this house. Lk:10:6: And if the son of peace be there, your peace shall rest upon it: if not, it shall turn to you again. Lk:10  : And in the same house remain, eating and drinking such things as they give: for the labourer is worthy of his hire.  |
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Date: 4/5/2002 11:22:00 PM
From Authorid: 23610
One of my closest friends is a Mormon Bishop....I know for a fact that he does not receive any benefit from the church. |
| Date: 4/6/2002 7:15:00 AM ( From Author ) From Authorid: 45272 Your comment Firstborn is not accurate, the people of the Mormon church do not recieve any benefit that anybody else is entitled to recieve through the Mormon church. After all when we say we take care of our own, our own meaning all brothers and sisters of any faith or culture, everybody. Even you can walk into a Bishop's office and tell him of your needs and he will help you in any way he can. And to a Mormon it is not the church house that is sacred ,it is the doctrine that is tought there that should not be associated with worldly gain. And I'm not saying that all ministers are rich, niether am I, I'm just saying they do it for a living just as I drive trucks for a living. |
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Date: 4/6/2002 8:12:00 AM
From Authorid: 16671
LadyNyx: Thats good, perhaps he doesnt need them. But that is not the case in all cases. Author: I was mormon too, I live in a mormon state, and I know that what I have written here for this state is accurate. Here is the county that I live in, and this bishop of this county, no, one that is not mormon recieves NO help from him. I'm not saying this is the norm for all mormon churches or all bishops. But the bishop that lives in the area I and my daughters Use to live in, has so much as said, you are not mormon, you do not go to this church and I will not help you. This is what was told to my daughters when they were seeking help one year. The point being that in MOST mormon churches, the HELP is there for the bishops that may need it. Dont get me wrong, I applaude the mormon church for their *family* ways, the morals that are taught to their children and the Help that is offered, *in most places* for people. I have read how they have sent food, clothes, ect ect to many places 911 for example, and they do help those that are not mormon. This one bishop here, that lives in monroe, much be the black apple? But the point in SAYING that the MORMON church is the only one whos preachers Dont get Paid, or have jobs outside the church, is a false statement. |
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Date: 4/6/2002 1:23:00 PM
From Authorid: 23610
I believe this is the Religious section....not the debate section....so I will not debate you here Firstborn. This author is entitled to write her feelings in this section without a debate. |
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Date: 4/6/2002 3:26:00 PM
From Authorid: 16671
LadyNxy, I'm not debating on this post, if you think so hon, you may want to re-read it all. The author asked a question and I'm merely responding. Just as I calmly responded to your remark. Perhaps your friend didnt need the help. |
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Date: 4/6/2002 4:01:00 PM
From Authorid: 23610
Hmmmmm...well then, FB, you won't mind if I say that I agree with the author in saying "your comment is not accurate". The author did not ask if you agreed whether or not a ministry should be paid.....the author asked if any other religions have this belief. I'm saying this calmly....so I'm not debating either. :P |
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Date: 4/6/2002 6:47:00 PM
From Authorid: 16671
thanks you for that information ladynxy. You see we can reply with out debating. *smile* |
Date: 4/7/2002 8:20:00 AM
From Authorid: 10146
Yes, there are other religions that have this belief. There are also many Individuals in Jesus Christ who too carry this belief. See, aint this religious posting thingy simple. LOL  |
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Date: 4/8/2002 8:12:00 AM
From Authorid: 30742
The Bible teaches that we should pay our ministers of the gospel well........ 1 Cor 9  -10 and 1 Cor 9:14...... |
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Date: 4/8/2002 8:14:00 AM
From Authorid: 30742
Many people in the ministry, that are non-LDS do not get paid........... |
Date: 4/8/2002 9:29:00 PM
From Authorid: 15070
the Wiccan & Witch religion(s) do not have paid clergy. They pay for their inital supplies, but that is a one time cost & Follower, buy their own. The Catholic Church provides for it's priests (clothing, shelter,food) & nuns (the same). Many minister's live off of "love offerings" that pay the churchs bills & then a stipand for the minister. Plus the Council of Ten & the Apostle are paid positions in Salt Lake City.So, this is kind of a broad statement.  |
| Date: 4/9/2002 7:18:00 AM ( From Author ) From Authorid: 45272 What type of help did you ask for Firstborn? Do you need further help? Maby I can help. |
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Date: 4/9/2002 7:28:00 AM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 45272
1 Corinthians 9-10-14 He that ploweth shall plow in hope?Doth God take care for oxen? Even so hath the Lord ordained that they which preach the gospel should live of the gospel? It says nothing of payment. Right |
| Date: 4/9/2002 8:10:00 AM ( From Author ) From Authorid: 45272 Ladyspiritguide... The the twelve apostles, the prophet or anybody who teaches the gospel are not paid none of those positions are paid, our missionaries are not paid. Throughout their youth they save their money and pay their own way as does the apostles. But if they are in a position where they cannot provide for themselves they will be furnished with the minimum essentials, but most all of them can and do provide for themselves. Because once again when it comes to mixing money and the word of God, money should not be an issue. |
Date: 4/11/2002 3:19:00 AM
From Authorid: 49277
hey Jehovah's witnesses do this. they go around preaching and dont get paid, their ministers dont get paid.. the only money the get is donations that make the books they pass out.  |
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