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Can u guess what kind of Dino this is?

  Author:  36079  Category:(Debate) Created:(3/18/2002 10:28:00 PM)
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I am refferind to leviathan of the Bible. Here are your clues.....

Job 41

God's Power in the Leviathan 1 "Can you draw out Leviathan[1] with a hook, Or snare his tongue with a line which you lower? 2Can you put a reed through his nose, Or pierce his jaw with a hook? 3Will he make many supplications to you? Will he speak softly to you? 4Will he make a covenant with you? Will you take him as a servant forever? 5Will you play with him as with a bird, Or will you leash him for your maidens? 6Will your companions make a banquet[2] of him? Will they apportion him among the merchants? 7Can you fill his skin with harpoons, Or his head with fishing spears? 8Lay your hand on him; Remember the battle-- Never do it again! 9Indeed, any hope of overcoming him is false; Shall one not be overwhelmed at the sight of him? 10No one is so fierce that he would dare stir him up. Who then is able to stand against Me? 11Who has preceded Me, that I should pay him? Everything under heaven is Mine.

12"I will not conceal[3] his limbs, His mighty power, or his graceful proportions. 13Who can remove his outer coat? Who can approach him with a double bridle? 14Who can open the doors of his face, With his terrible teeth all around? 15His rows of scales are his pride, Shut up tightly as with a seal; 16One is so near another That no air can come between them; 17They are joined one to another, They stick together and cannot be parted. 18His sneezings flash forth light, And his eyes are like the eyelids of the morning. 19Out of his mouth go burning lights; Sparks of fire shoot out. 20Smoke goes out of his nostrils, As from a boiling pot and burning rushes. 21His breath kindles coals, And a flame goes out of his mouth. 22Strength dwells in his neck, And sorrow dances before him. 23The folds of his flesh are joined together; They are firm on him and cannot be moved. 24His heart is as hard as stone, Even as hard as the lower millstone. 25When he raises himself up, the mighty are afraid; Because of his crashings they are beside[4] themselves. 26Though the sword reaches him, it cannot avail; Nor does spear, dart, or javelin. 27He regards iron as straw, And bronze as rotten wood. 28The arrow cannot make him flee; Slingstones become like stubble to him. 29Darts are regarded as straw; He laughs at the threat of javelins. 30His undersides are like sharp potsherds; He spreads pointed marks in the mire. 31He makes the deep boil like a pot; He makes the sea like a pot of ointment. 32He leaves a shining wake behind him; One would think the deep had white hair. 33On earth there is nothing like him, Which is made without fear. 34He beholds every high thing; He is king over all the children of pride."

Psalm 74 13You divided the sea by Your strength; You broke the heads of the sea serpents in the waters. 14You broke the heads of Leviathan in pieces, And gave him as food to the people inhabiting the wilderness.

Psalm 104 25This great and wide sea, In which are innumerable teeming things, Living things both small and great. 26There the ships sail about; There is that Leviathan Which You have made to play there.

27These all wait for You, That You may give them their food in due season.

All I cn thinkof is champ or nessy, lol. But it couldn't be becouse it can breathe fire, but taking in account that we know that those 2 do not breathfire, and that there is no way of knowing scientificaly if some dinos breathed fire, then We'll just orgetthat part but disclude nesy and champ? lol Although there is o many old stories of fire breathing dragons in old england and china, but they were all slain! shucks, lol

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Date: 3/18/2002 10:32:00 PM  From Authorid: 33922    There is some kinda reptile thing that has a combustible spit..dont know its name tho...lol
LOVE this post
  
Date: 3/18/2002 10:37:00 PM  From Authorid: 45630    it's a trilobite.  
Date: 3/19/2002 6:50:00 AM  From Authorid: 33817    If it's "Leviathan", then it is not a dinosaur. Dinosaurs lived only on land. It was probably a related saurian.  
Date: 3/19/2002 9:59:00 AM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 36079    lol power one, dinos lived in the sea too! ever went to a national geographic museum? they have them hanging in the air! Yes I know what you are talking about it is a certian kind of beetle, its on the tip of my tongue shoot, lol It spits acid out of its mouth. thats the one I kow of anyway. trilobite?  
Date: 3/19/2002 11:21:00 AM  From Authorid: 10146    Well you tried looking at this Leviathan, in the literal sence. However, You still cannot figure out what it is! So, now try to look at him again as you Re-read it, and look at it Metaphorically! I see Leviathan in a metaphor, as being "Mankind" with, and without God, as well as "ALSO" Man with Jesus, Dwelling inside of man, becoming One with GOD! So check it out again, as you reread, to see mankinds nature, With and without God.  
Date: 3/19/2002 12:47:00 PM  From Authorid: 33817    Pretty familiar with the topic of dinosaurs. "Dinosaurs are a specific subgroup of the archosaurs, a group that includes crocodiles and birds, whereas mammoths and mastodons are mammals. Other archosaurs included the pterosaurs, relatives of dinosaurs but not true dinosaurs. More distantly related to true dinosaurs were the marine plesiosaurs and ichthyosaurs. These were marine reptiles, not dinosaurs or even close relatives of them."

http://www.ucmp.berkeley.edu/diapsids/dinosaur.html
  
Date: 3/19/2002 5:09:00 PM  From Authorid: 10146    Job 41

God's Power in the Leviathan 1 "Can you draw out Leviathan[1] with a hook, Or snare his tongue with a line which you lower? ( NO, But Jesus did!)2Can you put a reed through his nose, Or pierce his jaw with a hook? (No, But Jesus Did!)3Will he make many supplications to you? (Yes, Jesus does this!)Will he speak softly to you? (Yes Jesus Will!)4Will he make a covenant with you? (Yes, Jesus did this!)Will you take him as a servant forever? (Yes I Will, and I did!)5Will you play with him as with a bird,( you mean, not taking Him serious?) Or will you leash him for your maidens? ( I will hold the line, and give him to our Maidens!) 6Will your companions make a banquet[2] of him? ( Yes, we will eat Jesus body, and Drink his Blood!) Will they apportion him among the merchants? (Yes, they and I, will devide and share Him, Leviathan/Jesus and advertise him as merchants do!) Can you continue on following, the Metaphor?
  
Date: 3/19/2002 8:10:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 36079    sorry, but leviathan wasa used metaphorically as the evil serpent satan in revelation. Also the beginning of the first verse points out all the things they could not do at the time of job which was before moses. Then in psalms, it talks about how they have mastered the seas and now can take down leviatan. The first verse is very discript. It does not lead on as a metaphor, but wherever there is a metaphor in the Bible, it tells you, and tells you what it means so us simpleminded folks can understand.  
Date: 3/19/2002 8:15:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 36079    I'm sory but if it looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, lol power So Nessy would be considered just a marine reptile? Ididn't know that. So I guess I could reword the title to say what reptile? lol  
Date: 3/19/2002 10:41:00 PM  From Authorid: 33817    You need to reword nothing! I was just informing you for your own edumacation. The laymen need not know the difference.   
Date: 3/20/2002 5:32:00 AM  From Authorid: 10146    I see and understand what you are saying too. Satan himself bares the mark that numbers with man, For Jesus himself once told, some evil men, If you were of My Father you would hear me. But you are of your father the Devil, "HE" was a murderer in the begining. Cain was the first "Man" to Murder, therefore Man and Devil/Serpent are also ONE in the same being. At the time of Job, (Adams Sons, could not do anything with leviathan,) Job was before Moses, and Moses recieved the Law, and the Law WAS God. Now, because of this Law, we read in the pslams, how it talks about how they have mastered the seas and now can take down leviatan. Man has been tamed, by the Power of God in Truth! This is because God became one with David, who also was a "MAN". In other words God himself replaced the Serpent in "Man", with Himself! Adams Sons could not draw out leviathan. The serpent in "MAN" (leviathan) was strong. But God in "Man" (leviathan) is Much Stronger, So that Leviathan can Purge out the Serpent. Adams sons could not Tie his tounge with a line which "WE" lower. But God could! And he did, with A "MAN" called Jesus! Isaiah 27:1 In that day, the Lord with his sore, and great and strong Sword shall punish Leviathan that crooked serpent: and he shall slay the dragon that is in the Sea. (the multitude of People) There is a revelation to Leviathan. But I do not remember the name "Leviathan" mentioned in the "BOOK" of revelation. Can you please, give me the verse and chapter in Revelation so I may Read it, to see how it relates.  
Date: 3/20/2002 9:30:00 AM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 36079    It wasn't in revelation, it was actually in Isaiah 27
1 In that day the LORD with his sore and great and strong sword shall punish leviathan the piercing serpent, even leviathan that crooked serpent; and he shall slay the dragon that is in the sea. I think the serpent meant Isreal, or the devil him self. I would have to read the whole chapter o understand what this verse meant, but the Bible always sys when tey are using metaphores so the above verses can't be. Just like when i talks about speaking in tongues,t says that no one should speak to te church in tongues unless there is an interpretor, and when ever Jesus spoke in parables he always said what it meant right after. That is becouse he wanted his word to be easily understood.
  
Date: 3/20/2002 9:38:00 AM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 36079    I decided to also show of another dino mentione, the behemoth, he is mentioned in the chapter right befor the first in my poste: 15"Look now at the behemoth,[1] which I made along with you;
He eats grass like an ox.
16See now, his strength is in his hips,
And his power is in his stomach muscles.
17He moves his tail like a cedar;
The sinews of his thighs are tightly knit.
18His bones are like beams of bronze,
His ribs like bars of iron.
19He is the first of the ways of God;
Only He who made him can bring near His sword.
20Surely the mountains yield food for him,
And all the beasts of the field play there.
21He lies under the lotus trees,
In a covert of reeds and marsh.
22The lotus trees cover him with their shade;
The willows by the brook surround him.
23Indeed the river may rage,
Yet he is not disturbed;
He is confident, though the Jordan gushes into his mouth,
24Though he takes it in his eyes,
Or one pierces his nose with a snare. I beleive he is clearly speaking about animals. Then I dcided to read in it further and found out it was actually God who was speaking to Job of these creatures, he was trying to make Job understand that he can do anything, including make these great beasts, and the message wa heard by Job becouse after the chater abou the Leviathan Job gives his response to What God said: Job 42

Job's Repentance and Restoration

God Blesses Job
1 Then Job answered the LORD and said:

2"I know that You can do everything,
And that no purpose of Yours can be withheld from You. Ithink this all clearly shows it a beast they were talking about.

  
Date: 3/20/2002 12:44:00 PM  From Authorid: 10146    Thank you SmurfPoo, For this post. It is a very interesting post. I cant agree with you more about these two things being some kind of a Beast, Animal etc. etc. And Yes I too, think they are in the Dinosaur catagory! I just wanted to share a deeper understanding that I believe Jesus personaly, let me see. I have come to Learn, that although the Bible is Written about literal and Physical things of this earth, it too, has Many Spiritual understandings and metaphors! It is mans first "nature" to veiw and see things in the Bible, as in the literal sences first. This is all well and good. But God by his Holy Spirit also has Hidden, Spiritual, Metaphors that are overlooked all the time. Only He, can open them up to us, by his Holy Spirit, as we, as individuals learn new heights, by which he has caused us to climb. We all, each and everyone, that has been Born Again by his Spirit, each share with others the Path that HE has opened up to us. Some too, can climb our Path with us, and Others must wait until God opens it up for them. What level are we each on, when we share with others? Only God, knows this Answer! There is no big "I's" and little "you's" in the Family of God. Thanks again, for Sharing with me our thoughts. Love in Jesus Name.  
Date: 3/20/2002 7:40:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 36079    There may be a deeper meaning to some verses, but the verses can always be taken at face value unless it says otherwise. Most hidden meanings, I have found, after learning some history not toldin the Bible. So that way when you read it again, you see it in a much different light. so any idea on what kind of dino this is? hehe  
Date: 3/21/2002 4:51:00 AM  From Authorid: 10146    I am not up as much on Dino's as perhaps I should be. So the Leviathan, I do not have a clue. However the Behemoth, I think is one of those Kind that is nicknamed the LongNecks. I do not Know its Proper Scientific name either. But I have heard (the kind I think is describing the Behemoth) them called the Longnecks.  
Date: 3/21/2002 7:44:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 36079    haha, watching a little too much of the land before time? lol, I'm thinking that one is the one that used to be called the brontosaur, but then found out it had the wrong head and had to switch the name to a more proper one. Forgot what it was though, lol. I think leviathan is one of those dinosuars that we havent discovered yet. Although I have seen some in the museum that had the bone structure of the leviathan, don't know the name though.  
Date: 3/21/2002 8:53:00 PM  From Authorid: 10146    Yep, It was a cute Cartoon I must say. LOL  
Date: 3/21/2002 8:56:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 36079    lol, I liked it, remember seeing it in themovies when I was still a single digit, lol.  
Date: 3/22/2002 7:57:00 AM  From Authorid: 33817    The "brontosaurus" has been found to actually be a brachiosaur.  
Date: 3/23/2002 8:41:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 36079    ahh, thanx power  

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