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ZERO MASS THEOREM

  Author: 47251  Category:(Philosophy) Created:(2/13/2002 5:23:00 PM)
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(The Theoretical Impossibilty of the Existence of Matter)

Postulate: There can be no limit, in theory, to the factor of shrinkage [in] approaching an infinitesimal microcosm.

Mental Experiment: Question: If one were capable of shrinking to the size of a quark, for example, what would one expect to see?

Answer: For illustrative purposes*, we'll describe it as a sphere the size of a basketball.

Question: What would one expect its composition to be?

Observation 1: If this represents the level where particles were finally considered to be solid matter (as a result of being regarded as elementary, indivisible, incapable of being made out of some combination of other things), the implied presumption is that it also represents the microscopic limit (i.e. we can't look beyond, nor does anything exist which is smaller than the quark dimension). Whereas, if an observer were capable of breaking this size barrier and further shrink to the next micro-level down (viz: .0000000001 times the size of an average sub-atomic particle), the result would yield a quark relatively the size of a planet. Now, what would its previously imagined solidness look like in this dimension? What characteristics would or could such hypothetical material take on?

Reasonable Conclusion 1: At this new 'super-sub-atomic' level, the spacetime continuum is again in evidence, establishing its typically vast regions between [what are now suddenly noticed to be] still another set of [smaller] spherical units, which may be referred to as 'ultra-super-sub-atomic' particles or ussaps. Whereof, incidentally, the presumed existence of these newfound particles, in turn, proves that the quarks, leptons, or bosons can no longer be considered, in of themselves, solid units of matter (indeed, they have not been considered thus by all).

Observation 2: We can now insert the idea of the ussap into the format of "Observation 1" and reach the selfsame conclusion, cranked down to the next sub-dimension. Moreover, this procedure can be repeated again and again, reaching the next level down, and the next, and so on, ad infinitum! (The suggestion may seem incredible that there can be no end to the depth of the microcosm**, yet it seems even more incredible that there would be! In fact, only the arbitrary reference point of the ego (observer) in spacetime has the tendency to indirectly assume a limit. And 'indirectly' is stressed here because such a limit is never actively reasoned out, but is subconsciously taken for granted; for, as soon as it's investigated, the idea soon collapses.)

Final Conclusion: Since there can be no diminished limit, in theory, to the size of conceivable globes of apparent substance, there can neither be any solid matter finally beheld in any of their relative dimensions.

This may be referred to as the Theory of Zero Mass, and it has far-reaching implications--not the least of which pulls the [already precarious] foundation of classical mechanics with its user-friendly laws, clean out from under the entire idea of what physics itself is supposed to represent! The fundamental problem we've been missing all along is the fact that we have been dealing with the effects of consciousness (viz. data derived from the world of phenomena, our sensual interpretation of it and, incredible as it may sound, our thoughts apprehending the measurements recorded by our senses). We have been juggling, assorting, defining and categorizing merely the byproducts of something much deeper. And the mistake we're still making is, to use an analogy, not unlike the way we formerly [classically] viewed a big world object, naively concluding that what we saw was what we got--i.e. that it was utterly composed of the material which it represented to our senses...until we were capable of magnifying our focus, mentally as well as experi-mentally.

Not to suggest that this theory, or something similar to it, hasn't been conceived by any other physicist. However, it is suggesting that its methodical approach is novel, simpler and much more compelling.

What does everyone think? Frog

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Date: 2/13/2002 5:30:00 PM  From Authorid: 37471    If I had a hard time with some of the "big words" in my physical science test, there is no way on earth that I can understand all that rubbish. But it does seem like quite a sound theory.  
Date: 2/13/2002 5:34:00 PM  From Authorid: 46266    One may also theorize (as a redemption to what Einstein was suggesting) that there may in fact be a limit to the microcosm which, upon reaching it, one would then be plunged into an interval of nothingness whereupon one's 'momentum' would further eventually transport its host past this interval and on into the field of--the original macrocosm! Suggesting a sort of spherical closed-loop structure to the format in which consciousness itself manifests. And what if this IS that limit, if our reality IS the eventual conclusion of the zero mass theory - which would then have to be renamed to the Minimal Mass Theory (MMT). Possible? Probable? Vert.  
Date: 2/13/2002 5:49:00 PM  From Authorid: 12637    This is all very interesting, but it just reminds me that man will always grasp at straws trying to comprehend that which he has no capability of comprehending. At least for now. But We've come this far by trying I suppose. I've always thought as the earth and the atom as the exact same thing, only a altered perspective seperates the two. Anyways kudos for writing this post for us to read in the very least!  
Date: 2/13/2002 6:07:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 47251    Vert... good point, but as is clearly evident, this theory is plausible provided solid particles are non-existent. As far as Einstein is concerned, it would require a multilateral dimension to facilitate such a loop in existence, somewhat feasible however.
Date: 2/13/2002 6:30:00 PM  From Authorid: 46266    More feasable than your original supposition that there is space between particles even when you magnify their scale ad infinitum, and that particles become made up of more particles past the quark we are restricted to. How then do you explain weight, which is a combination of mass an gravity? If Zero Mass is correct, no matter how much gravity that is multiplied by, the result is still zero weight. Better yet, how could we explain varying heaviness between objects based on their mass, if mass is negligible? Vert.  
Date: 2/13/2002 6:32:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 47251    vert.. another thought has just sprung to mind. If indeed there is a loop in the existence of matter, then this means that the microcosm AND the macrocosm must have a limit... and you inevitably believe that the macrocosm is infinite, do you not?
Date: 2/13/2002 6:37:00 PM  From Authorid: 46266    I believe none of this. I merely supposed that there was a limit to the microcosm. Once that limit is reached, the loop would confine us to that same macrocosm we are trying to delve beyond, not loop us to the beginning of the ultimate conclusion of the macrocosm - to start a discourse on that would involve discussing the reverse of the process of breaking through quark barriers - which is something that you do not have a theory on yet. Vert.  
Date: 2/14/2002 9:45:00 AM  From Authorid: 33817    We don't even know what CAUSES gravity, so it's effects on mass could surprise the heck out of us, Vert. Ultimately there could be no mass, yet relative localized mass may not violate the rule. I love the idea of infinity in both directions, but it's all an excersize in futility at this point. Our souped up monkey brains just weren't meant to deal with it. When quantum computers become a functional reality, I think the world of physics, string theories, Universal field theory, ALL OF IT will be turned on its head. I, for one, cannot wait!  
Date: 2/14/2002 1:52:00 PM  From Authorid: 46266    Power One, you're right about the futility of this exercise, but isn't that what most discussions on philosophy are? Utterly futile. While we do not know what causes gravity or what it's ultimate effect would be on something of Zero mass, we do know that in an environment of lesser gravity (the moon, for example) an object of a particular mass is much less heavy. Thus it stands to reason that while the weight of an object with a measured mass is drastically reduced with zero gravity - the weight of that same object would also be drastically reduced in an environment of gravity if it had zero mass. If I'm still unclear, laugh it off or ask for further explanation... =] Vert.  
Date: 2/14/2002 3:20:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 47251    Aah Vert, the die-hard pragmatist.. indeed these disussions are truly inconsequential, however they illuminate the mind, for what is the human mind worth if it does not stretch it's boundaries.
Date: 2/14/2002 3:48:00 PM  From Authorid: 46266    A better question is, what is the gym worth if the barbells don't weigh a thing? Vert.  
Date: 2/15/2002 7:39:00 PM  From Authorid: 49330    gosh I think my brains fried lol. It really makes me think. Ive pondered simularities of this before, without the big words, of course. Im not exactly had more than 9 levels of education so therefore I hope I'm not expected to completely grasp the terminology  
Date: 2/15/2002 7:49:00 PM  From Authorid: 24813    Ah, finally, a quality post and discussion.... It's funny, I was thinking along these same lines just a few days ago. The idea I had was to see all physical reality as fields. In observing particles, as you keep reducing your scale of perspective, you'd find ever more "space", more fields, and ever less "matter". It seems all particles are constructed of field center points (stated so for simplicity; aka smaller particles), in such a way that you never find the base particle. As you delve within a particle, you find that the original supposed particle is in fact nothing but a combination of overlapping fields resulting from even smaller field center points. Mass/matter, then, is just a byproduct of interrelated fields. This also implies roughly the same thing for gravity, maybe that it exists as the sum of potential difference in fields that make up the perception of matter.... Anyway, if both come from the same source (fields), why differentiate, why do we see them as separate? We only would if one is the byproduct of the other, but which then is more basic? I could go on writing a novel on this if I had time, but I'll keep it short and simple for now. Please keep the discussion going if you want, and throw anything into this you like (gravity, time, perception, whatever), and I'd be happy to address it. The more I write and think about these things, the more new ideas I can come up with.  
Date: 2/15/2002 11:41:00 PM  From Authorid: 37900    Is this idea contradicted by the commonly-held perception of the universe just prior to the Big Bang? It is my understanding that, at that time, there was a particle of infinite mass and infinitesimal size, yet, it existed. Interesting post. Alfrowi.  
Date: 2/18/2002 12:42:00 PM  From Authorid: 33817    True, Vert, philosophy is the posterchild for pointless discussion, but if you want to get philosophical about it, isn't it all futile? Here we go...  

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