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Date: 8/19/2001 1:02:00 AM
From Authorid: 39272
frankly, i dont know ~SuPeRmoNkeY~  |
Date: 8/19/2001 7:39:00 AM
From Authorid: 38474
No, I do not think it is a cop out. I actually think it is a compromise. He understood the need for the research to continue because of the potential, but he made it so other embryos were not destroyed for it................Racquie  |
Date: 8/19/2001 8:37:00 AM
From Authorid: 15228
I personally think he reached the best compromise he could. Probably stem cell research will be found that it is as useless as the research on fetal tissue taken from abortions was....Kelly  |
Date: 8/19/2001 10:45:00 AM
From Authorid: 277
I agree with the above replies about it being a compromise. How in the world can you conmpare it to murdered and tortured Jews?????  |
| Date: 8/19/2001 12:08:00 PM ( From Author ) From Authorid: 18562 Dr Joseph Mengela was a nazi Docter who conducted medical experiments on jews killing and exposing inicents to extream tourtue (treating them like lab rats)and death...he kept his results and they were published but never dispersed durring the nazi rain...his notes and experiments many have argued would be invaluable to Modern medical science becouse the research had lots of information about how the human body responds to burns, oxigan deprivation, poising and high altatude sickness. However no modern docter will touch his research becouse doing so will validate his human experimentation...if you beleave that a fetis is a human life then allowing any murdered embrios stem cells to be used in research is the moral iquivelent of using Dr Mengela's reasearch, PatrickO |
Date: 8/19/2001 1:08:00 PM
From Authorid: 27678
Hey PatrickO, long time, no talk with. Yea, you bet it is a copout and an opening of Pandora's Box, as, mark my words, in another year or so, the tide will change and laws will be enacted to further this research, to the point where women will be paid to have their eggs harvested. Free Girl  |
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Date: 8/19/2001 1:21:00 PM
From Authorid: 24924
^^^THAT is totally ignorant. Neither of you know anything, if very little about what stem cell research involves, what actually takes place, and what great benefits to the medical field and to patients who suffer from all sorts of ailments, diseases and disorders. Having said that, I would like to comment that I am AGAINST FEDERAL FUNDING for stem cell research. The value of stem-cell research to humanity should never be dependent on federal/political funding. Ample support for the needed research should be coming from private sector grant/foundation monies to ensure apolitical support of further research by the scientific communities. The March of Dimes and Polio are a case in point. There WILL be continued stem-cell research and great advances in medical treatments and rebuilt/renewed lives as a result.  |
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Date: 8/19/2001 6:47:00 PM
From Authorid: 27678
Gee, you sure know what's ignorant and what's not ignorant, huh? And you know what other people know, too? Maybe you should be PRESIDENT! Free Girl |
| Date: 8/19/2001 7:06:00 PM ( From Author ) From Authorid: 18562 Thinker your comments trys to justify the means by its end...the one thing that all ethisists all agree cannot be done. I usderstand enugh about stem cells to know that they can be harvested form Palsents and ambiical cords of newborn babys...that is somthing that is usaly sold for other industraly uses. enugh stem cells can be harvisted this way to do all the experimaents you like. Stem cells also can be harvisted from human bone marrow...but neather offer the prophet marjen that you can from culturing fetises to kill and harvist their cells PatrickO |
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Date: 8/19/2001 7:08:00 PM
From Authorid: 38474
The Thinker for PRESIDENT???? SHE'S GOT MY VOTE.....Racquie |
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Date: 8/19/2001 7:14:00 PM
From Authorid: 38474
If you would like some facts about stem cell research go to http://www.msnbc.com/news/611850.asp?0dm=V313H It talks about the decison...............Racquie |
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Date: 8/19/2001 7:15:00 PM
From Authorid: 38474
oops, I meant decision..............R |
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Date: 8/19/2001 7:22:00 PM
From Authorid: 24924
"profit margin for culturing fetus's"......YOU been reading to many Sci-Fi books and Conspiracy theories, plus you got an imagination run amok, Patrick. |
Date: 8/20/2001 4:44:00 PM
From Authorid: 36079
I agree with you but the world can't be perfect. I think his decision was a good one considering the prez is supposed to speack for us and it was basically 50 50 for and against. I think he spoke for us. Also you got to think, all the time they do experiments on dead people with out there consent. I think in a perfect world you are right. Love Poo...u should read my debate on stem cell reaserch too!  |
Date: 8/20/2001 5:18:00 PM
From Authorid: 21598
I also think that it's a compromise. He tried to make both sides happy. He did what he could. Not everyone disagrees with him. I am sure a lot of the upset people are people who dont like Bush anyways.... If they did, they would support him in his decisions. I think he made a good choice. I wouldnt have been able to think of that. Also, if you were parylized... you would prolly support this too. Think of people like christopfer reeves, who may never walk again unless they have something like this to help them.  |
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Date: 8/21/2001 10:32:00 PM
From Authorid: 34625
Thinker: The problem with private funding is that it's profits-orientated. So, they'll jump at the chance for things like MS and Parkinsons, which are common diseases, but more uncommon diseases that also could benifit from this research but just aren't profitable due to low amount of patients, wouldn't get their cures. Also, the cure itself would be more expensive because that private corporation or whatever wants it's money back. If there is anything I think the government should fund it's things like this. I wouldn't mind my tax dollars going towards saving lives. I can't think of a better way to spend the money o_0;; But the thing that really bothers me about his decision is not that it's a political cop-out, but that he makes it all up to be some big moral decision. There is nothing moral about that decision. he just didn't want to get his head bit off by other side, so he settled to only somewhat disgruntle both sides. That's a political decision, not a moral one. ~Nekomimi  |
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Date: 8/22/2001 4:46:00 PM
From Authorid: 27678
Racquie, didn't you just tell me on my commentary post re: stem cell research that the news media is NOT the place to go to get facts? Then, you tell PatrickO to go to msn.com/news? Interesting, and you never came back to my post with your FACTS and CITES. Free Girl |
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Date: 8/22/2001 4:47:00 PM
From Authorid: 27678
PatrickO, sorry for the double take. FG |
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Date: 8/22/2001 4:47:00 PM
From Authorid: 27678
Racquie, didn't you just tell me on my commentary post re: stem cell research that the news media is NOT the place to go to get facts? Then, you tell PatrickO to go to msn.com/news? Interesting, and you never came back to my post with your FACTS and CITES. Free Girl |
Date: 8/23/2001 10:36:00 AM
From Authorid: 24924
That news source that Racquie posted above has an awful lot of stuff about this subject, and, Free Girl, at least it is BIASED as most all of the "news" sources that you claim or copy and paste. Check out that source she posted. You just might learn something. Why, even Jerry Falwell is mentioned there.  |
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Date: 8/23/2001 10:38:00 AM
From Authorid: 24924
Oops! I left out the word: NOT . That news source is NOT biased, I meant to say. |
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