Date: 6/15/2001 6:46:00 AM
From Authorid: 33925
OK, now that sucks!!! My brother in law and his wife are going through a similar situation right now..they have been living on income assistance, and he decided to come down and stay with us for a while to try to find some work..He got hired with my husband where he works..His wife and kids are still living in their old community for now and he is living with us..well income assistance is threatening to cut off his wife, since he is now working...If they cut her off he is going to have to quit his job and move back home..this is just totally stupid to me..He came here to find work so that they could eventually get off the system and they are telling him that if he keeps working(even though they are not living together) they will take her assistance away. Its like they want to keep you under their thumb and dependent on them!! xoxo Ladyluck  |
Date: 6/15/2001 7:04:00 AM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 21376
I totally agree.This whole system stinks.I have harsher words but this is USM after all.Its just not fair.I don't know what I am going to do and its getting down to the wire. I may even be forced to sell my home and no one cares.I worked my Butt off for my home,fought like heck to keep it in court, and who knew love wouldn't last forever and I would ever be in this situation.My Ex could care less his children may be homeless.Or not eat everyday.But this isn't about that issue, its about the system and the way its run.I am going to write one heck of a letter to the papers and it may even make my Ex look bad,even if I don't mention him,but its a small town and they all will probably attack him for not helping me either.But I am going to do this and have my say.  |
Date: 6/15/2001 7:05:00 AM
From Authorid: 15394
Wow I sure do understand what you are saying... but... one thing you describe here is the cultural difference in FAMILY. Here in the USA we do not put very much emphasis on extended family, however if you look at MANY cultures, the extended family is where the child and elderly care come in. THEY TAKE CARE OF THEIR OWN... here in america it seems that it is every man/woman/child for themeselves... anyway.. just a point to your story... perhaps before you send it off you may want to change the hispanic references to illegal/legal alien status... because, depending on where in the USA you go, the ethnic group that you are speaking about changes... POINT is still the same, I understand the need of a little help without wanting a HAND OUT. . . but it is not specific to simply hispanic as I am sure you know. Having the same trouble as you are now, I started my own business and am fortunate enough to work around the children, so I don't need daycare...but is a HUGE issue... Best of luck to you in this tough time!!!  |
Date: 6/15/2001 7:07:00 AM
From Authorid: 35821
I know what u mean exactly! 2 yrs ago my daughter was very ill and ended up having transplant and do you know my husband and I tried going to apply for medicaid (we had insurance) but the cost of all this would go way over. well we were denied and said we made too much money, well heres the kicker of it, I could not work because I stayed with my daughter I would not leave her side for nothing and even when she came home I stayed home with her because she was on so much medication that I would not leave her in someon else's care! no way!! So we got her on disability and they also went by our income so she did not get a straight amount every time. Well now that I am working now, now social security wants us to pay money back to them. how unfair is that? all these foreingers get free business, pay no taxes and get a social security just for being in the united states. I know because I work for a company and they get a check for being here. and oh god dear walk in a welfare building and if you didnt get here in america some illegal way then you dont get help. right now thank god my mother in law watches my kids, because I couldnt trust no one else, I would have to stay home and take a huge cut in income. we thought about hiring someone but for one I would be working to pay someone else also my daughter is on extreme medication so there is no way I would put her life in someone elses hands. because god forbid, you will see me on front papers for murder. take care and good luck. freespirit  |
Date: 6/15/2001 7:13:00 AM
From Authorid: 34341
You're right, the system sucks. It seems that if you follow all the rules and do everything "right" you get penalized for it. The only way around it is to work the system, and sometimes you have to be "dishonest" to do it. Here is an example I have come across. Husband is out of work, can't find a job locally, so he has to travel to get a job at a place he knows they are hiring. It is not worth their while for the wife to work while he is away, since she would be paying out all of her money for childcare, since she can only get a minimum wage job. Of course, he has to get himself an apartment where he is, too, and the job he is working isn't a really great one, either, money-wise, but he has the chance later on to get something better. When that happens, the idea is to move the wife and kids out to where he is, but until then, he doesn't have the money to move. What to do? He and his wife file for separation, which allows her to go on welfare. He sets up a new bank account and puts his excess money into it, and sends her a duplicate ATM card so she can access it. This amount is nowhere near enough to support her and the kids, but it's enough to help out with extra clothes for the kids, a little more grocery money, etc, since the amount she is getting on welfare is minimal. About six months later, he gets a much better job with a decent wage, since the place is unionized. Two paycheques later, he has enough for his wife to rent a U-haul; she loads up the household and drives out to where he is. By this time, he has rented a house, and they move in, the family reunified. Now, was this dishonest? In a strict sense, sure it was--in fact, it was illegal. But it was the system that made it happen. It was the system that turned them into "crooks". However, when the case came up, the husband and wife testified that the separation was real, and that their problem was caused by the lack of an income, which led to arguments and fights. The money he put into an account was merely child support that he felt was owing. The wife was able to show that the welfare she was getting was only enough to cover the rent and utilities, and left only $35/month for groceries. The judge considered all of the evidence and threw the case out, remarking that under the circumstances, all he could see was a situation where all they did was survive a run of bad luck, and congratulated them on the fact that they were able to work things out and get back together instead of their case becoming just another divorce statistic! I'll say it again: if you can't work within the system, turn it on its head and work IT! <glock>  |
Date: 6/15/2001 7:28:00 AM
From Authorid: 31077
I hear your pain as when I went threw a divorce many years ago I needed childcare in the worse way and when I went for just childcare help the system thinking they would help me and be pleased I found a job so quick nope they said I had a job and I was totaly lost and said ok so you mean to tell me had I come here first before getting a job you would have been able to help me but not since I have a job right? Yes she said .hummm ok I dont get it I thought getting a job and a home was good but guess I'll quit my job and return!!! She said then we still cant help you for like 30 days as they would santion you ........I was so lost I left mad as you know what !!! I know how hard our system makes it on those who really try hard to keep from falling but seems like they help those who like some I know that dont work and get medical ,food card,check ADC and also metro which pays there rent for them!!! Hang in there and sure wish you the best
~Family Matters~  |
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Date: 6/15/2001 7:29:00 AM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 21376
Sorry but you just don't understand my point.Yes they do take care of their own,We on the otherhand do take care of ourselves, And pay for them also.Its unfair how WE are treated.We, our country, soon will be broke. By the time I am able to collect Social Securty or anything else America will be broke, due to all the hand outs to these poor people.I worked with a hispanic girl who got pregnant by an american low life,and she went right to medicade and got it no questions asked,she had cut her finger at work and needed stiches and was taken to the emergancy room.She came back to work, and told my boss that he shouldn't worry about the bill, she is on medicade and it will cost him nothing.OMG! So we all paid for her medical bill!She says Oh no its free,all free.My boss was so angry no#1 she lied and told them she cut her finger at home, and blew it off as it being free.Here I am busting my butt for years and can't get a deduction on childcare and she is in this country for 8 months and gee all her medical expences are free.Her Baby free,food for the baby free while her lowlife married to another woman boyfriend works, and so does she. This is what makes me angry! |
Date: 6/15/2001 9:13:00 AM
From Authorid: 23796
Call your Local Welfare office and Ask about OTher programs BESIDES Welfare that can help cover the cost of Daycare. You'd be surprised at what you can find out. **ShadowVixn**  |
