Date: 6/13/2001 7:38:00 PM
From Authorid: 7152
lol good post!
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Date: 6/13/2001 7:44:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 20296
AWW!!! blue girl thankiesLOL not going to debate???? this is no fun ok...just cheezy pink bubbles and rainbow vibes so far I like those anyways  |
Date: 6/13/2001 8:06:00 PM
From Authorid: 32795
Hey Auntie, its me Choclate gurl, long time no see, great story i never really thought about that, hugz SeeYa  |
Date: 6/13/2001 8:06:00 PM
From Authorid: 34341
Right you are cblossom...of course there is a Creator. However, unlike how some would have us believe, "He" is interdenominational and non-denominational all at once, not preferring any one segment of society over any other. <glock>  |
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Date: 6/13/2001 8:25:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 20296
hi choclate girl *huge hugz* and I missed ya and glock....I believe that also...but all of us should be so smart...ummm...I mean luckyLOL..no I think each's beliefs are personal...ever expanding and always changing...for the better, i hope My deal is do not discredit something or possibly someone? just because you can't see it |
Date: 6/13/2001 9:06:00 PM
From Authorid: 34361
YEP!!!!!!  |
Date: 6/13/2001 10:02:00 PM
From Authorid: 13546
I can't prove or dis-prove that some higher power exists out there. Oh blossom sweetie, you always seem to pick this hard ones don't you? LOL@ Anything could be possible, what we can't see, doesn't mean it isn't there right? I mean how can we explain some of this unexplainable phenomenoms that have happened? its so hard. eee.. i want to see what others are saying, take care sweetie. Love  |
Date: 6/13/2001 10:54:00 PM
From Authorid: 27046
no one can prove or disprove that there is a higher being. That is why religion is based on faith. However you have your percentage of people that will tell you that a higher power absolutely exists because the bible tells them so. *sigh*...I hope you know your scripture Cb cause I can feel some coming...LOL....  |
Date: 6/13/2001 11:52:00 PM
From Authorid: 8374
lol thanks for the post! hehe   |
Date: 6/14/2001 5:36:00 AM
From Authorid: 27414
It's entirely possible but this can work both ways. Prove there IS something!...pianoman  |
Date: 6/14/2001 6:46:00 AM
From Authorid: 11091
Like always you can not prove or disprove if there is a higher power. However, you can prove she has a brain by cutting open her skull and looking at it, or a catscan. There is proof we have a brain and there is no proof there is a God.  |
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Date: 6/14/2001 7:06:00 AM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 20296
hi trinity and rain...lol...not too hard, really *huGz* |
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Date: 6/14/2001 7:08:00 AM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 20296
Az...I rpivate messaged you so....you know who I directed this at lol thanks pixie angel and pianoman...I do not have to do that I am not the one telling OTHERS they are wrong for their beliefs soo I do not have to "prove" mine...since I am not disproving theirs just gave others something to think about |
Date: 6/14/2001 7:09:00 AM
From Authorid: 10733
lol thats funny
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Date: 6/14/2001 7:12:00 AM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 20296
Birdfeed...well they thought the earth was flat...was positive of that at one time. we were not able to view the brain at one time...so there for we were not sure "it" was in existance and never paid it no mind. I am not trying to prove anything here...except.....You should not discredit another for their belief in something that is not visible to you....yet, or even maybe ever. Personaly...I "feel" more then I see and if I am wrong in my belief in 'foo-lala"...then it won't hurt me in the end. I have tried many times to discredit or analize the whole thing....you can really do that with feelings but like I stated....this is just to say......there is NO concriete proof, on either side, so stop the "fighting".... |
Date: 6/14/2001 7:34:00 AM
From Authorid: 35572
Let's be careful: The idea that the earth is flat was never a very popular idea. Early Greeks figured that the earth was round both by tracking the position of the stars and observing the curve of the world as the horizon dipped down. So your argument that "they" were "positive" that the earth was flat isn't valid. -- Shadrach  |
Date: 6/14/2001 7:52:00 AM
From Authorid: 8224
CBlossom - excellent post - all one has to do is view what is around us, trees, sky, etc., and if honest with one self, know that what we see is the "essence" of that which is greater - proof is all around us - it just takes an "open" soul to let the reality filter in on a daily basis. So great to see your posts once again along with everyone's responses. Take care.  |
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Date: 6/14/2001 8:00:00 AM
From Authorid: 27414
I meant my response in the literal sense. Not that you HAVE to prove anything. That which we cannot see should also be proven that it does indeed exist. But you've already categorized when you said "you nonbelievers". That assumes that you DO believe. Correct? And this is not a slam! Merely an observation...pianoman |
Date: 6/14/2001 8:04:00 AM
From Authorid: 5886
It's alot harder to disprove than it is to prove. For example, to prove there are Aliens in space, then we just need to find 1 planet with Aliens on it and then it's proven (assuming it's true.) They might be on the nearest star or even in our own solar system. But to disprove Aliens (assuming we are alone), then we'd have to visit EVERY planet in the Galaxy... and if we find nothing, well the believers will argue that they are in one of the trillions of galaxies we didn't look... so if there is no life, then we'd be looking for an eternity. Get my point? Now, with a Universal spirit, it may be undetectable with every single bit of Technology for centuries to come, but even if we can't find it anywhere, they'll still be people insisting it's there, and thousands of years may go by, and this arguement we have today may still remian. If the spirit does not exist, then we will never be able to satisfy the people who claim it does. If God is hiding under a rock on the planet Zeepofilniba some 900 Million Trillion light years away, then we are in some big trouble if you want us to prove it isn't there.  |
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Date: 6/14/2001 8:14:00 AM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 20296
Sad..ok so EVERYONE didn't believe it...much like some religious group are a minority????? |
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Date: 6/14/2001 8:16:00 AM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 20296
Thanks antona I am glad to see you back |
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Date: 6/14/2001 8:16:00 AM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 20296
no...actually...I am very careful about not letting many know WHAT I believe "exactly"...however in my profile, I state: "I believe in EVERYTHING unless proven otherwise" LOL...believe it or not that works for me I only wanted to try and make an arguement for the believers...maybe I am argueing with myself...who knows???? |
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Date: 6/14/2001 8:17:00 AM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 20296
Rebel..I totally agree. it IS harder to disprove. what one finds truth today will turn out to "be" someday on many instances |
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Date: 6/14/2001 8:19:00 AM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 20296
SAD...one more thing...I believe that those who thought the world was round were thought to be "crazy"....and were shunned...were they not???? I am trying to make a point...that is all. sorry if my arguements do not meet your scrutiny LOL and I am always careful...just maybe not by your standards.....that sounded kinda rude. |
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Date: 6/14/2001 8:39:00 AM
From Authorid: 35572
No, Blossom: They weren't considered to be crazy. Unfortunately, in their zeal to misteach history, our elementary school teachers gave us this weird story about a man named Colombus who set out to prove the world was round. The problem is, we already knew the world was round at this point. Magellen had down some pretty heavy duty sailing and the Phonecians were very sea-savvy. But in the interest of sanitizing Colombus's real reason for shipping out (debt and a Catholic greed for more land and gold), we're given a world populated by people who think the world is flat. And that just was never really the case. -- Shadrach |
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Date: 6/14/2001 9:10:00 AM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 20296
geeze...ok then. wrong point then..but my original arguement still stands.... LOL I still believe that just because you can't see it, touch it...or read about it, doesn't at all mean it isnt |
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Date: 6/14/2001 9:32:00 AM
From Authorid: 11091
CBLOSSOM, I am not arguing your point just your facts. But for me to believe in something I have to be able to tell it exsists with my senses. I rely on science. And all major religions in america are minorities for the world. |
Date: 6/14/2001 10:02:00 AM
From Authorid: 34476
This is quite humorous to me, Cblossom, since I have run into quite a few people in my lifetime who enjoy "proving" me wrong in my beliefs. So far I have not seen any evidence whatsover on your post that proves the non-existence of any god(s), yet I have seen many statements from people here at USM claiming to know there IS no God. --Paranoid--  |
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Date: 6/14/2001 10:10:00 AM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 20296
Bird I agree...but to me, my sense of "feeling" is enough sometimes to much to dispute Paranoid...my challenge was for someone to "disprove" next time...probably not though(..unless someone tells me "I" am wrong)I will ask them to prove to me that there IS |
Date: 6/14/2001 10:11:00 AM
From Authorid: 35114
heehee that was so cute I love it. ^-^ ~*~Kawaii Neko~*~  |
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Date: 6/14/2001 10:19:00 AM
From Authorid: 34476
*smiles* Hopefully I will be up to that challenge. --Paranoid-- |
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Date: 6/14/2001 10:39:00 AM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 20296
thanks aloha and paranoid...you time will comeLOL |
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Date: 6/14/2001 12:17:00 PM
From Authorid: 11091
Maybe feeling is enough for you, but it is not enough to me. I have felt many things in my life that have been wrong (not spiritually) and now know for something to me to be real I need proof. Maybe if I felt something, I owuld be diffrent. But in my life I never have. |
Date: 6/14/2001 12:50:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 20296
I am sorry bird *huGz* well...I am sorry only if you are sorry...but if it works for you...then I am happy. geeze...I sound flaky LOL what i am saying is that do whatever works for you. I just don't like others saying that I am wrong, because they don't see my "foo-lala"...ya know???? that is the point...and thus far, you have never said that to me |
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Date: 6/14/2001 4:33:00 PM
From Authorid: 11091
CBlossom, I would never say your wrong just try to show you were I disagree and why. No one can be right or wrong when it comes to religion, just differing views. |
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Date: 6/14/2001 4:47:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 20296
I agree bird and thanx |
Date: 6/14/2001 7:23:00 PM
From Authorid: 29928
Great post CB..makes people think. I know God exist and not because I can physically see Him. I know he is there, from my own personal relationship with Him and my own experiences. It's all in faith and trust and once you give your life to Him, you know for yourself He is there. I can't see the wind, but I feel it and know it's there. Hugggs, Pammie  |
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Date: 6/14/2001 8:25:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 20296
nice to hear from ya pammy and very nicely put *huGz* |
