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God=good, Satan=evil, or is it the other way around?

  Author:  35054  Category:(Philosophy) Created:(5/1/2001 3:02:00 PM)
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ok, we all know the christian "god=good", but have you ever questioned that? I have and this is what I've come up with: If god is so good, then how come he condems all who don't follow and worship him? well, I think I may have a theory to solve that. This may seem really far off, but whatif god is wanting people to worship him, just so he could use them as slaves? It makes sense. God doesn't want a slave that would tell him to back off when ever he told them to scrub the sacred stairs to heaven. Why esle do you think all those angels and "god" want you to be so good? Most obiedient christians would love to serve god for eternity. So therefore, if god is bad, then Satan must be good. If god wants to use us as slaves, then if we're bad, we get to be free, but live in a firey inferno. (seeing as that's where god put Satan.) And SAtan encourages us to be bad, so we wouldn't be used as slaves, but all the christians twisted it around so that you think Satan is evil and God is good.

What do you think about my theory?

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Date: 5/1/2001 3:07:00 PM  From Authorid: 27028    my friend thinks that too, hes a satanist. but i beleive there is no god or satan  
Date: 5/1/2001 3:18:00 PM  From Authorid: 32806    I think a lot of people will quote loads of passages from the bible at you. Sagi10  
Date: 5/1/2001 3:19:00 PM  From Authorid: 28899    They both sound like slave masters to me. You won't find freedom, in any religion. But, that doesn't mean someone couldn't be happy with their choice. It's like the red pill, and the blue pill, from "The Matrix". * I chose freedom over any religion. -Underground  
Date: 5/1/2001 3:19:00 PM  From Authorid: 19092    Good God Almighty,  
Date: 5/1/2001 3:44:00 PM  From Authorid: 30229    I totally believe in God and his written word. I think that he has us follow his word because HE DID create us. Those are the rules...of life...***Gail*** <MY opinion>  
Date: 5/1/2001 3:53:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 35054    Why trust the Bible? after all, the people who wrote and believed in the bible, also believed the world was flat.  
Date: 5/1/2001 5:22:00 PM    I personally believe God is good and intends to reward us for living "good" lives with everlasting happiness after we die. But I love seeing what other people. Remember part of leading a "good" life is respecting other points of view.
Date: 5/1/2001 6:14:00 PM  From Authorid: 34625    Hi Kitsune... I still think you should make this into one of your stories ^-^ ~Nekomimi (Kimiki)  
Date: 5/1/2001 11:49:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 35054    thanks Kimiki^^  
Date: 5/2/2001 8:34:00 AM    It's just like the devil to get you to believe that.... satan will try making the thought of you follow him sound like the best thing ever...but, that my friend, is a trick... he does everything opposite of God. God is known to be good throughout the ages, without a doubt, but, satan will tell people that don't know anybetter that he's the good one, and God tries to make slaves of his children... WRONG...it's just so horribly, undeniably wrong.
Date: 5/2/2001 1:50:00 PM  From Authorid: 34487    I truly disagree with the "God enslaving possibility." I do understand that this whole issue is confusing. Satan is only evil now because he is a fallen angel. Satan wanted to be better and bigger then God and this was his punishment, banishment from Heaven. I can see why. God doesn't owe us a thing, we on the other hand owe him everything. My old boyfriend said he would believe in God if he showed himself to him. I laughed and said "wow, how vain is that." If you want to know if God is good and would like to feel his presence, then take a minute to talk to him. You probably won't get a verbal answer but somewhere down the line you'll understand. Good luck,   
Date: 5/2/2001 9:00:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 35054    I apreciate these comments, but I am religionless, and I'm just looking at thing from a different angle. You know stepping aside and looking at things.  
Date: 5/3/2001 12:25:00 PM    I don't know my friend. America is good, yet it condemns communism. Isn't it possible that God simply DOES know what is best? At any rate, God created a universe with his spoken word, he doesn't need to create slaves, he already can do anything! As far as your portrayal of Satan as some sort of liberator you are on dangerous ground here. I would rather be in bondage to God (who doesn't NEED me he WANTS me) than to Satan whose purpose it is to decieve and twist things around. Keep thinking though and ask God for wisdom, discernment and a sound mind
Date: 5/3/2001 3:58:00 PM  From Authorid: 17693    Maybe God just scares us to be good. Talk about threatening.  
Date: 5/3/2001 6:43:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 35054    Most of you aren't getting it (and thank you all of you who do for the opened mind) I am NOT a bible thumper, I do not believe god is all that good. If he's so good then how come nice people like my aunt get MS, or austioperosis, or any other desieses. It's because god loves us all, right? OF COUSE!!! It's satan! well if god's all powerful, then why doesn't he stop him,, That's right!! He can't! so he's not all powerful after all!! Well if he's not all powerful, then how will he get powerful? oh! Getting people to do things for him. (It works for the government)  
Date: 5/3/2001 8:03:00 PM    GOD is in GOoD EVIL is in the dEVIL
satan was an angel of GOD that went bad.
GOD gives everyone life isn't that enough.
what more could someone ask for.
when life is given oppotnity is opened,
GOD just tests his creations to see if they believe are not. Can you pass the test?
SAY a PRAYER AND GOD WILL ANSWER YOU IN A PHENOMINAL WAY.
he sees that you are confused, so just give him a chace. I promise it will be the best chance that you ever took.
REMEMBER THIS: THE GOOD ALWAYS PREVAILS OVER THE EVIL. GOD loves you and forgives you for any sins that you have commited. This is why his SON (JESUS CHRIST) died on the cross so all of our sins shall be forgiven.
I am 19 years of age and I used to be confuse also until I realized my purpose on this earth.
You have a purpose also. you shall realize oneday and GOD will guide you. He will believe in you always.
Date: 5/3/2001 8:56:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 35054    Please don't preach the bible at me, I don't go preaching the Necronomicon (Book of the dead) at you, so don't quote your at me please. I'm an atheist, and happy to be one. I don't need a god to make me feel sicure about myself.  
Date: 5/3/2001 8:57:00 PM  From Authorid: 35323    God gave you your freedom to decide what and who you will be. I dont beleive in Hell being a fiery place where we spend eternity. Hell will be living with the misery of your failure to achieve your full potential. Look within yourself and become what you know you can and when you meet your maker He will know you tried and I beleive He will help us continue to develop until we become what we were created to become. I don't think that it would make sense to give us our freedom to become slaves.He could have just created slaves if that's what He wanted. I believe that we will become a part of something bigger and better than the human imagination can fathom. I look forward to developing myself so that I can take my place as a spoke in this "cosmic wheel".
Date: 5/3/2001 9:04:00 PM  From Authorid: 35323    P.S. God is all powerful but in order for us to develop personally he gave us freedom. Without the freedom to choose our own paths we would not be able to learn for ourselves. I beleive that although God is all powerful he lives by the laws of physics and nature and is able to control these to an awesome degree that we could not comprehend. I know you are an atheist and respect that, but you should respect others opinions also. I think that the bible thumpers are missing the point also. Read the old testament and you see that God is forced to love his people from a distance (I beleive for their own good)
Date: 5/3/2001 9:23:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 35054    This whole thing isn't about me though, I just wanted to tell people this "neat" theory I came up with in English Literature class one day. It isn't what I believe, but some people are mistaking it for my religion, and all the "you should love god" is starting to anger me. (plus, I do try to not rag on other people's opinions, I'm just not used to it. People always put down my opinions and beliefs.)  
Date: 5/6/2001 10:31:00 PM  From Authorid: 34487    You have a right to your opinions and questions and I think people are just responding with theirs. Your theory is interesting and is probably something that many people question. I didn't know your beliefs because they weren't stated up front but I respect your theories. The problem I have seen with some peoples questions on this website is that they take responses personally. I meant you no offense with mine.   
Date: 5/7/2001 8:01:00 AM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 35054    I don't really know my beliefe, some people tall me I'm atheist, while others.. well.. say I'm atheist.. But I'm not really sure what I am.  
Date: 5/8/2001 1:59:00 PM  From Authorid: 34487    It must be frustrating at times to not know how to define yourself religiously. It may just take you some time and reasearch of your heart. Once again, good luck to you.   
Date: 5/8/2001 3:17:00 PM    what is your philosophy of life. curious

from 5/3/2001 8:03

what I wrote was my feelings and my theories. I did not wish to force my thoughts on you as you have taken it. It is just freedom of speech. You have a right to your opinion and theory.
BELIEVE WHAT YOU WANT. IT IS YOUR LIFE. JUST REMEMBER THAT THERE IS ALWAYS ONE GOoD WAY TO LIFE
Date: 5/10/2001 3:12:00 PM  From Authorid: 20235    I agree with anonymous 5/3/2001 and with author 34487. Author 35054 don't take it as a dis cause it's not. I just don't agree with you, that's all.  
Date: 5/10/2001 9:30:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 35054    you peopole don't get it, it's PHILOSOPHY, you aren't really supposed to agree with me, PHILOSOPHY is about thinking about what and who we are. I don't care if you agree  
Date: 5/11/2001 4:50:00 AM  From Authorid: 27051    interesting theory! And in Hell we all get to have fun and be bad all day... Cool! -Dude of war  
Date: 5/12/2001 6:47:00 PM    god and the devil is the made up repersentation of a ying and yang both opposite,compliments one other, can't exsist without one another,makes the world work.
Date: 5/19/2001 8:25:00 AM  From Authorid: 32789    i think you are closer to the truth than most would find comfortable. if people would read the christian scriptures with new eyes i believe they would see what you see. which 'god' seks to be worshipped? that says it all for me! meru
Date: 5/29/2001 6:32:00 AM  From Authorid: 21931    It isn't that God condemn those don't listen to him, it is because we can't accept him through this way b/c when we're born, we have sins 'cus Jesus die for us!! And if God wants us to be his slave, he would just do it, i mean he is soo powerful!! he wouldn't have waste so much time teaching us bringing miracles ot our life. Satan is betrayer, who wants to be betrayer??? only those bad guys!! Pls. take alook at the bible before having this sort of improper theory!!! thanks!!  
Date: 6/14/2001 9:52:00 AM  From Authorid: 10534    Interesting...Well for one i dont believe in god or heaven, or satan and hell. so i dont really have much thought on this. interesting tho...hehe  
Date: 6/18/2001 7:34:00 AM  From Authorid: 31980    but bad=bad. sure you may think this but bad=hurting others. Maybe your right but nobody can make you a true slave. If youre already dead and a slave refuse b/c theres no fear of dying. The way you see it is either way when you die you either burn, or be a slave. Now thats not fair. nd i heard that life is not fair but we're talkin bout death here!  
Date: 6/18/2001 12:51:00 PM  From Authorid: 36848    Look into Buddhism, it doesn't have a dogma. It encourages you to think for yourself. Even Buddha said not to listen to everything he said, without thinking it out yourself.
Date: 6/22/2001 7:40:00 AM  From Authorid: 22906    God is a loving merciful Father to all of His creatures,He is no respector of persons.As far as evil, this is the animal instict that we are to transform into a spiritual reality.This is what Christ was talking about when He said to the creatures of this world to be you perfect as I am perfect. Think about it,It is the animal instinct to rape, fight for survival, and to kill.This is the part of us that we have to refine into perfection,to become man from animal.
Date: 2/10/2002 3:23:00 PM  From Authorid: 16376    No I believe God is good and Satan is evil, I trust God  

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