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Date: 2/11/2001 9:02:00 PM
From Authorid: 12709
I see where you're coming from. You're a convincing debater! =D  |
| Date: 2/11/2001 9:05:00 PM From Authorid: 24911 Well you are making some convincing arguments. But i disagree with the drinking age law. This law prevents KIDS from getting in trouble. But all the rest, ur right are pointless. |
Date: 2/11/2001 9:10:00 PM
From Authorid: 8428
1. why make a bad problem worse?? 2.the diff speed limits vary but are tightly packed to protect the ppl in the car and out. 3.lwgalize drugs then more ppl get addicted that means more ppl who get to high to work and will actually make the money flow go down instead of up. 4.im torn on this but if u legailize it then ppl will ge std's then theyll get in contact with other ppl then stds will become rampant. 5. if the govt. doesnt enforce things then ppl ignore them.thats a way of getting to the ppl wear ur safebelts or ur fined.which would u do? 6.well thats a very smart law unless it also refers to if ppl are in the car then thats stupid.but who in their right mind anyways would have the car started while its unattended. 7.dont know blue laws u see them post them cause im curious also  |
Date: 2/11/2001 9:19:00 PM
From Authorid: 17310
I agree with Number 1, if kids want alcohol they usually get it.  |
Date: 2/11/2001 9:25:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 9130
I am having some trouble finding any information on the internet about blue laws. They are kinda weird laws like "You can't walk down the street on sunday eating an ice cream cone" and stuff like that... but i'm still looking...  |
Date: 2/11/2001 9:26:00 PM
From Authorid: 10534
i agree with some but not all....good points tho!!  |
Date: 2/11/2001 9:46:00 PM
From Authorid: 13354
I'm personally glad we have laws but everything in balance right???  |
Date: 2/11/2001 9:47:00 PM
From Authorid: 13974
1. No we are not the only country with a drinking age, we just do it differantly. Yes we do have the most problems with it, but this is due to social attitude in our country, and not so much the drinking age. 2. A standard speed limit is necesary for public safty, what would our neighborhoods be like if you could go any speed you feel wherever you like (and I for one STRICKTLY adhear to the limits.) This is because there are alot of morons with drivers licenses out there, but it would be worse without deterants. 3.Sure prison space would open up, except for all the addicts that it would CREATE by legalising who would end up turning to crime due to severe addiction. These laws act as a deterant, I for one would have surely gotten into drug use had it not been illegal.4. I feel alot like you do, but this would also tie up alot of monney in legislation, setting up programs, health care costs, making sure they are adhearing to regulations, etc etc etc... 5. Seat belts and helmet laws, without deterants such as these, there would be alot more injuries and deaths than we already have. Could you imagine health care costs? How many more stupid people would be taking up space in emergency rooms when you might need to be in there, just because they weren't smart enough to take basic precautions without being told to? 6. I don't know, because I don't live near you, but I am sure there is a reason. 8.Blue laws? Again, I don't know much about them.  |
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Date: 2/11/2001 9:47:00 PM
From Authorid: 17252
(1) I think the drinking age is too high. It certainly doesn't stop "kids" from drinking. If anything it should be at 18. In other coutries such as Canada, I believe it is 19 (also 19 = adult) - in England, you can drink with meals at 16. (2) 65mph is pretty slow for the interstates. I think it should be 80mph. In Kansas the normal roads were 70mph. (3) I don't really know about the drugs, marijuana should be legalized. Is there any reason why it shouldn't be legal? Alcohol may be worse than marijuana in many ways. (4) There are other places where prostitution is legal, I don't think that STDs are any worse there. The gov't shouldn't tell you you can't have sex with whoever for money. (5) I don't think it should be a law to wear them. I think you should wear them, but shouldn't have to be told to. The police can't pull you over though, for just not wearing your seatbelt - they have to have pulled you over for speeding or whatever. (6) They just passed the same law here. It's to cut down on theft of running cars I think. Again, I think you should be able to do this if you want to warm your car up. You should just lock the doors (and have an extra key or something). This one reminds me of the dumb rules they have at the apartment here. (7) I think I saw a website on blue laws once, I'll try and find it. In our hometown they took a few laws off the book, such as it being illegal to spit on main street and illegal to gallop a horse down main street. (8) Why is it illegal to drive barefoot? Good topic! I agree most of these laws are pointless and good examples of the government trying to control everything. ~lilac siamese~ |
Date: 2/11/2001 9:50:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 9130
Yea! Phyduex! I knew someone would have to disagree! Now this is a debate  |
Date: 2/11/2001 9:55:00 PM
From Authorid: 13974
Lilac, you are wrong, they may not be able to pull you over for it where YOU live, but it is becoming more and more common. C'mon dizzy, you know you can count on me  |
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Date: 2/11/2001 9:55:00 PM
From Authorid: 5301
...I agree, some of these laws are really stupid. #1) Drinking age: Most countries have a legal drinking age. This is dumb. Why can't my 5 year old have a slug of whisky to relax himself on a bad day? #2) Speed limits: People should be allowed to create the largest, most life-destroying accidents within their abilities. #3) Legalizing drugs: I've always wanted to live next door to a government-sponsored crack house. I feel that the proximity of psychos will be a good influence on my children. #4) Controlled prostitution: This is a good idea. The world's oldest profession will never go away. Better to have healthy bodies "serving" the public than the alternative. I still can't agree with the practice, but, billions of customers do. Some people seem to need this. #5) Seat belts and helmets: A lot of people still cling to the "die hard" principles. I'm not sure if I'd like to fly through the windshield of a car or do some skull-surfing on the local highway. I'm sure that both options would be colourful, but, may not be influential to your survival. #6) Let the car idle: Hey, why not put a sign on the windshield... "STEAL ME". I'm sure that all the exhaust emissions created during your quick trip into Liquorama have an almost negligible effect on the environment. I also hate getting into a cold car. #7) Sorry, never heard of "Blue Laws". Is this connected with porn? Sorry to have an opinion, but some laws, however intrusive they may be, are there to protect and save your life.  |
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Date: 2/11/2001 9:57:00 PM
From Authorid: 13974
I can see exactly why they would pass the running car law, the police have better things to do than look for a car some idiot left running for somone to steal. Waste of manpower. Lock your doors if you like, but if it is running with the keys in it, a broken window is a small price to pay for an easy boost. |
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Date: 2/11/2001 10:01:00 PM
From Authorid: 13974
Also, just because a law may not stop something completly, should we really take the attitude of not even trying because we will not succeeed 100%, now there is a good attitude to instill on our children. "If at first you don't succeed Billy, quite and don't look back." |
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Date: 2/11/2001 10:04:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 9130
Hi Heckler... By the way, I love the sarcasm-- I didn't say your five year old should be able to drink whisky. Don'y you realize that in Europe it's ok for a teenager to drink wine with dinner-- it's common and accepted-- what's wrong with that? Speed limits-- no one follows them on the interstates anyways... well ok, some people do, but look at the (what's it called?) Autobaun? In Germany? You can drive as fast as your car is safe to drive... there are fewer accidents... The car thing-- well, it's not due to cars being stolen... people can still lock their door with another key... it is due to one car rolling down a hill and hitting another car... And no, blue laws are not connected with porn! :-P |
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Date: 2/11/2001 10:06:00 PM
From Authorid: 17252
The "blue laws" are usually to do with businesses closing on Sunday and also drinking or buying alcohol on Sundays. |
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Date: 2/11/2001 10:08:00 PM
From Authorid: 13974
I lived in Germany, and yes there are fewer accidents, because car crashes there have a 95% fatality rate due to the speed, so they don't try to go nuts with it. |
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Date: 2/11/2001 10:09:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 9130
17252-- yes they do, but not always-- they are usually laws founded by smaller towns-- many of them from the 1600's some of them are still around, and many were created as you said. |
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Date: 2/11/2001 10:13:00 PM
From Authorid: 13974
Now not being able to carry wire cutters in your back pocket in texas is a stupid law ( it goes back to cattle rustling days.) Also, not being alowed to get a fish drunk in I think Ohio, well I guess that is acceptable, you shouldn't try that. |
Date: 2/11/2001 10:13:00 PM
From Authorid: 19220
1-undecided 2-I think that the speedlimit laws should stay. 3-The only drug that I think should be legalized is old MaryJane 4-good point 5-I personally think that those are good ones. 6-I agree with you. 7- Don't know any. 8-Now I do that....LOL IceQueen420  |
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Date: 2/11/2001 10:15:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 9130
About the drugs being legalized-- do you think that it would really cause that big a problem? I mean the goverment would probably charge outrageous prices for them and the people who were addicted would probaly overdose within like two days of them being legalized.... |
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Date: 2/11/2001 10:19:00 PM
From Authorid: 13974
Those outrageous prices already lead to theft, and sometimes murder, why make it government supported on top of it. It is more of a principles issue. Sure the drugs are here anyway, but why should it be government supported just because they can't stop it? |
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Date: 2/11/2001 10:22:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 9130
I suppose I see your point Phydeux, I just wonder, what can be done? The goverment seems to not even be doing anything about drug use now, so why not legalize it and see if it helps? |
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Date: 2/11/2001 10:25:00 PM
From Authorid: 13974
That would take billions to tear down our system now, and if it got worse, we would have to start all over from scratch, I just don't think it is a logical option to play "lets see what happens" but I do see your point. |
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Date: 2/12/2001 3:58:00 AM
From Authorid: 26303
1. In Aust. the day you turn 18 you get your licence and can go to the pub, which I think is crazy! How old before you can drive over there? 2. Speed limits are put in place to protect people. Although the governments cash in on it. 3. Not too sure about this one. Maybe if they were legal, not so many young ones would rebel and try it out. 4. Totally agree! 5. They've had to make those laws because people don't value their own lives enough. Why put yourself in any more danger. 6. I wouldn't want my family wiped out because a car that was left running ran into me. (but i did it myself today. ooops) 7. Relieving your self in a public place is one here. But that means not even behind a tree on a dark night. Police always booking people for that here. Men on their way home from parties usually.lol This is the first time i've entered a debate like this, hope I did okay. ~Aussie Girl  |
Date: 2/12/2001 4:53:00 AM
From Authorid: 6032
i agree with most of your points here. that one about driving barefoot is totally stupid. what difference does it make if you are wearing shoes or not?  |
Date: 2/12/2001 6:08:00 AM
From Authorid: 19016
Are You serious? Angel 1  |
Date: 2/12/2001 8:59:00 AM
From Authorid: 23207
I agree with you that some of these laws are stupid! But good luck getting them changed! Trouble  |
Date: 2/12/2001 11:30:00 AM
From Authorid: 21847
I'm with you all the way! Hey, did you all hear, that since I'm in 6th grade now, my age group and below has to wait until we're 18 to get a license!? Maybe that's just rumours, but I'm pretty sure its not! Uh! Stupid laws! *Zero-Shark*  |
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Date: 2/12/2001 11:33:00 AM
From Authorid: 21847
And for blue laws, I'm pretty sure uselessknowledge.com has most of'em *Zero-Shark* |
Date: 2/12/2001 2:16:00 PM
From Authorid: 10657
well, I will tackle the drinking one lol. When I had just turned 15 the legal age to drink was moved up to 21 instead, of 18 boy was I upset lol. But, I soon realized that if you didn't have a drinking age and say some teen started drinking and driving and they killed someone. Well, they more than likely wouldn't be tried as an adult so it is probably best this way  |
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Date: 2/12/2001 2:56:00 PM
From Authorid: 27046
1.......The drinking age should stay where it is. Kids do drink but the age makes it harder to get a hold if it than if you were a teenager and just able to walk in and get it. I know plenty of teens that drink, and more than half the time the night that they are planning to drink they can't find someone to get it for them. They would be drunk constantly if they could get it when they wanted. You mix younger people with alcohol and it equals disaster anyway you are going to look at it. Also the younger the drinking begins and is done frequently the better the chances for alcoholism. 2.........We NEED to have set speed limits.....Did you happen to see what happened when Diana's car crashed? That should tell ya right there what happens to a car that is speeding in excess and the car loses control. Its a lot easier to slow down when some jerk cuts you off doing 60 mph than it is at 80. If you are driving that fast not only do you not care and have no respect for your own life but you have no respect for the lives of others on the road. 3........one of the biggest problem that we have is the crime that is associated with drug use. The drug dealers would be out of business but it sure is nt going to free up prison space. They jack up the price of the drugs and every drug user around will be breaking in to our homes, cars, holding up our convenient stores and such to get enough money to pay for the drugs. Not to mention the fact that it will create MORE addicts and the government will have to spend more money with medicaid for most of these people to get treatment. Not only that the success rate for treatment will go down. If every other person walking down the street has a crack pipe hanging out of thier mouth, what are the odds that you aren't going to start up again. The way it is now people can avoid the people they drugged with and places where they did it. There will be no where to hide from it if they did this. 4.........As for legalizing prostitution, it seems to work for the states where its legal, but personally I wouldn't want it legalized in my state. I just think its disgusting and demoralizing. Not to mention the fact that overall I think it demoralizes family values. 5........its a proven fact that there are a whole heck of a lot of people in this world that NEED to be told to everything.....How many times did you mom crab about your room not being clean, you answer with you didn't tell me to clean it, and she replies I shouldn't have to. WELL its obvious the government feels that they HAVE to tell you to wear a seatbelt or a helmet for your own safety. This is not a law imposed to try and tighten thier ropes on the public. It was designed to keep you safe. I guess the government also making it mandatory that all newer cars have air bags in them is just another way of them tightening the rope on us even more. 6......leaving the car running, can be an annoyance to those of us that live in cold areas. But there has to be some reason that they felt it necessary to pass a law like this. there have obviously been many instances where someone has run into a store with the engine running and thier car has been stolen. Or too many instances where some bozo left thier kid in the car while it was running and car starts rolling. It dangerous for you and for other people to leave your car running and unattended its only done for safety. 7......as far as the blue laws they were on the books so long ago when we had a great society. Where the majority of people had respect for themselves and for others. Times when a man would never dream of shifting himself in public and people didn't see it as a skill to spit. As far as the Autobaun is concerned. It happens to have the highest rate of fatility and the number one reason is because of the speed!  |
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Date: 2/12/2001 3:01:00 PM
From Authorid: 27046
^^^^^^^ Azairyia |
| Date: 2/13/2001 8:26:00 AM that's ok for some people... but they need to make these laws so that ppl don't go over board. granted laws are made to be broken, but they need to make them so we don't break them even worse... follow me? |
| Date: 4/8/2001 12:26:00 PM Blue laws here in Texas used to be that you could not buy certain things on a sunday, Like hardware items anything that pertains to work. For the sabeth day was a day of rest if you get my meaning.As for speed limits dont ask i could go on for hrs. ,I"am a truck driver. Thanks : Tom F. |
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