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Date: 9/27/2009 8:00:00 AM
From Authorid: 12806
It's not that we are pushing for the "End if the World", it's just that we have read to the end of the book and we know how the story ends. It is a scary story for those who do not have faith, but for those who do, it is the normal progression of things which must come to pass. Kind of like jumping off of a very high cliff. The events to follow were set into motion at the moment you jumped. You can deny the end result all you want, but it is inevitable. No prophecy of the scripture has ever been wrong thus far, so there is no reason to believe that the rest will not come to pass. We are just watching the pieces of the puzzle fall into place and the tapestry come into clearer view. The plans were laid out 4000 years ago, and as surely as the sun will set in the evening, the prophecies will come to pass in due time.  |
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Date: 9/27/2009 8:08:00 AM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 51876
People Believe it and Make it so.I do believe the Bible is a good book and Jesus was a great teacher of estoric ideas and a revolutionary but the End of the World has been told to happen with every generation so even if a nuclear strike happens as it did with Japan..Life will go on and big bad messiah won't be coming in some meglomanic fury. he will come in the hearts and minds of those who understand that Jesus teachings were the path to the higher dimensions of reality in which GOD or the Galactic Omnipotent Diety exists. Religon is always a excuse.Real belief comes in basic humanity in which the 10 commandments or Universal laws of the cosmos lay down for the elevation and perpetuation of Life in the Galaxies. Thanks for the comment, Raybone.  |
Date: 9/27/2009 8:31:00 AM
From Authorid: 15228
Why is it in the interest of the 'cabal of international bankers' to see this war?? Please, maybe you and Man of Asgard can enlighten me.  |
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Date: 9/27/2009 9:19:00 AM
From Authorid: 15228
"The memory of evil will serve as a shield against evil - Elie Wiesel It may be fun for you to fantasize about international cabal's of bankers and other bogeymen being around every corner, but the Jews in Israel have a very real concern...this man has repeatedly threatened Israel, it's really as simple as that. He said Israel must be wiped off the face of the earth, Iran is attempting to get a nuclear bomb which will threaten to destabilize the entire region. Saudi Arabia, Iraq and Kuwait have as much of a concern over this as does Israel. I'm sorry that doesn't fit into your fantasy. Frankly, if I were a Jew and if I had learned the lessons of the past, I would believe what this man says. As far as I know the international cabal of bankers has nothing to do with this unless you want to prove otherwise. Who are these bankers? What are there names and how do you become part of their organization? |
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Date: 9/27/2009 9:27:00 AM
From Authorid: 15228
April 22, 2009 "Don't be afraid of those Zionists. They are on the verge of death. Their time has passed. Do not surrender your people to them… "Unless they are put in their place at the very beginning of their conspiracy and fitna, they will jeopardize the security of the whole world, they will jeopardize the security of the whole region… They want the entire world. At their very first step, you must crush their step, crush their leg, so that they do not dare to invade the Islamic lands" (Speech, carried by Iranian News Channel, IRINN. Source: MEMRI) |
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Date: 9/27/2009 9:28:00 AM
From Authorid: 15228
"The global Zionism is the complete symbol of racism, which with unreal reliance on religion has tried to misuse the religious beliefs of some unaware people and hide its ugly face… we should try to put an end to the misuse of international means by the Zionists and their supporters." (Remarks to the United Nations Durban Review Conference, Geneva, Switzerland, April 20, 2009). More |
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Date: 9/27/2009 9:30:00 AM
From Authorid: 15228
January 28, 2009 "A brief review of the events after World War II shows that the Holocaust issue - with the dimensions they define for it - is an excuse to continue dominance and expansion of influence of the victors, especially America and Britain in the international arena." "The Holocaust is knitted together with liberal democracy. It is the claimants of liberal democracy who support the Holocaust logic and have sanctified it to the degree that no one dares questioning its sanctity. "Today the Zionists command many centers of power, wealth and the world media and unfortunately they have enthralled many politicians and political parties…. "Also, do not forget that the Zionist network which has created the Holocaust discourse must be made known to the nations..." (Excerpts from a speech titled, "Holocaust, the Holy Lie of the West" at Sharif University in Tehran) |
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Date: 9/27/2009 9:31:00 AM
From Authorid: 15228
2008 Today, the Zionist regime is on a definite slope to collapse and there is no way for it to out of the cesspool created by itself and its supporters….American empire in the world is reaching the end of its road, and its next rulers must limit their interference to their own borders. Today, the thought of hegemony quickly becomes a demerit." (Address to the United Nations General Assembly) |
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Date: 9/27/2009 9:32:00 AM
From Authorid: 15228
Iran's President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad in his Own Words 2008 Posted: September 18, 2009 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Introduction -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2009 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2008 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2007 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2006 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2005 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- September 23, 2008 "The dignity, integrity and rights of the American and European people are being played with by a small but deceitful number of people called Zionists. Although they are a miniscule minority, they have been dominating an important portion of the financial and monetary centers as well as the political decision making centers of some European countries and the US in a deceitful, complex and furtive manner. It is deeply disastrous to witness that some presidential or premiere nominees in some big countries have to visit these people, take part in their gathers, swear their allegiance and commitment to their interests in order to attain financial or media support" "Today, the Zionist regime is on a definite slope to collapse and there is no way for it to out of the cesspool created by itself and its supporters….American empire in the world is reaching the end of its road, and its next rulers must limit their interference to their own borders. Today, the thought of hegemony quickly becomes a demerit." (Address to the United Nations General Assembly) September 18, 2008 "I have heard some say the idea of Greater Israel has expired….I say that the idea of lesser Israel has expired, too." "We have no problems with these people (Israelis) but they should leave the occupied territories, leave them to their genuine owners and get back to their countries and homes where they originally came from." "The Holocaust is a lie and the real Holocaust is happening to the Palestinians." (Selected remarks at a press conference in Tehran, as quoted by news services) |
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Date: 9/27/2009 9:33:00 AM
From Authorid: 15228
May 13, 2008 "This terrorist and criminal state (Israel) is backed by foreign powers, but this regime would soon be swept away by the Palestinians." (Remarks at press conference in Tehran, as quoted by dpa) |
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Date: 9/27/2009 9:33:00 AM
From Authorid: 15228
August 23, 2008 "About 2,000 organised Zionists and 7,000 to 8,000 agents of Zionism have dragged the world into turmoil. … The powerful hand of the nations will clean these sources of corruption from the face of the earth." (Speech at a rally in Arak) "We will witness the dismantling of the corrupt regime (Israel) in the very near future." (Speech marking "World Mosque Week in Tehran, as quoted by the official IRNA news agency) |
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Date: 9/27/2009 9:34:00 AM
From Authorid: 15228
March 10, 2008 "Resistance is the only way to defeat the Zionists and their masters." (as quoted by Iran's official IRNA news agency) |
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Date: 9/27/2009 9:34:00 AM
From Authorid: 15228
May 8, 2008 "Those who think they can revive the stinking corpse of the usurping and fake Israeli regime by throwing a birthday party are seriously mistaken." "Today the reason for the Zionist regime's existence is questioned, and this regime is on its way to annihilation.… (Israel) has reached the end like a dead rat after being slapped by the Lebanese." (Remarks on Israel's Independence Day, as quoted by Iran's official IRNA news agency) |
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Date: 9/27/2009 9:35:00 AM
From Authorid: 15228
February 20, 2008 "The world powers established this filthy bacteria, the Zionist regime, which is lashing out at the nations in the region like a wild beast. … "[Israel] won support [from the other nations] which created it as a scarecrow, so as to keep the people of this area under control." |
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Date: 9/27/2009 9:36:00 AM
From Authorid: 15228
November 27, 2007 "It is impossible that the Zionist regime will survive. Collapse is in the nature of this regime because it has been created on aggression, lying, oppression and crime." (As quoted by IRNA) |
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Date: 9/27/2009 9:37:00 AM
From Authorid: 15228
August 18, 2007 "The Zionist regime is the flag bearer of violation and occupation and this regime is the flag of Satan. …It is not unlikely that this regime be on the path to dissolution and deterioration when the philosophy behind its creation and survival is invalid." (Address to an international religious conference in Tehran) |
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Date: 9/27/2009 9:49:00 AM
From Authorid: 15228
Wow, he does sound reasonable. I'm just wondering how the international banking cabal makes him say things like that? It is interesting how he avoids calling them Jews, I guess that makes people feel better to substitute the word "zionists" for Jew, but we know what he is really talking about. It's an old history, the history of the world to blame Jews for such things....controlling the bankers and world media..it's all pretty ancient and has been heard before. In the last century it lead to some pretty ugly things, which is why it's easier to disguise it as hating Israel, but lets not wink and nod, zionist means jew. No one in the middle east gives a rip about Palistine, not many in europe give a rip about palestine. It's anti semitism dressed up. Why should it be any different in this century than in any of the past centuries??? |
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Date: 9/27/2009 10:51:00 AM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 51876
I'm not going to debate you Kelly on every point. These Elite insanly rich people are creating conditions for Both sides to go to war. Each side is wrong and if you don't think people give a darn about the Palestinians you are again living in a tunnelvisoned world of your own choosing. Have you made some points, yes, but I think Ahmadinejad Is a Mad little dictator and as I eluded on my comment in Man of Asgard's recent post. Hitler wants to be to be disposed of by his own top generals and rebels within the government but he was warned before it happened. This leader of Iran, if you read Radman's comment on the my recent post about Iran, it's people not the Great Evil..He totally explains the governmental system in Iran. Iran has totally been transperant.SORRY BUT THE REASON Iran is a threat is because the West or China or Russia has no control over them.This could be a threat but do you really believe they are going to blow up Israel? Nuclear weapons are a No Win situation for everyone, including them, they would be bombed immediatly All this is more propaganda gameplaying by the secrecy that goes on behind the scenes everywhere across the globe. |
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Date: 9/27/2009 10:54:00 AM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 51876
Not Hitler wants to be disposed of but Was to be diposed of. |
Date: 9/27/2009 11:09:00 AM
From Authorid: 22852
@}~~ Anyone see the movie "Swordfish"? and understand it? I just finished watching it {again} maybe everyone should watch it   |
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Date: 9/27/2009 11:33:00 AM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 51876
saw it years ago and Hollywood loves to mimic real life incidents. |
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Date: 9/27/2009 1:54:00 PM
From Authorid: 15228
You are talking about Bogeymen. You say 'Elite insanely rich people'. Okay, who are these people besides elite and insanly rich?? How do you know about them? Where do they come from, what is their motivation? Iran may not use the bomb, BUT they are a terrorist supporting state, they fund Hamas and instigate in Lebanon. Look what is going on in Pakistan for Gods sake, they have the bomb and terrorists are attempting to gain access to it. You act as though hoh hum, all countries are the same. Pakistan is so unstable that it is frightening. You think it's fine and dandy that they have the bomb??? Or is that all a plot by rich elitist as well? As far as I know Iran is one of the few countries that openly threatens another country and they are allowed to get away with it and people like you excuse and defend them. That is frightening as well. |
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Date: 9/27/2009 2:03:00 PM
From Authorid: 15228
Yeah, peter pan is a great movie, that's based in reality as well I'm sure. |
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Date: 9/27/2009 2:11:00 PM
From Authorid: 11240
I commented on one of your posts yesterday about the polarization of people being manufactured. Bru, equating Christians (who are pushing for the "End of the World"??? Really?) to Islamic Jihadists is just more manufactured polarization. Your stance seems to be that if Christians all claim to know what is to come why don't they try to stop it. What you don't seem to accept is that God's Plan is just not changeable. JMHO. Why would buying into the idea that Cabal of International bankers are pushing for a Zionist/Islamic War preclude the notion that they have bought, and brought, about that pushing on one or both of those sides? Sure you give that a little credence when you say the Insanely Rich Elitists are creating the conditions for war, but that seems to be prefaced by the caveat that the government of Iran is being played by these conditions and not purposefully acquiescing to them. God Bless.  |
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Date: 9/27/2009 4:56:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 51876
Believe what you want Kelly, you act like this all started yesterday but all this as been designed for this specific purpose.You remind me of my brother who is a atheist and no matter what you say about the existence of God ,he will always say it's a fairy tale just like you do. Look I can't lay it all out for you in one post. There is piles and piles of chronology and evidence that shows a few people own and run the majority of the worlds resources and corporations. This isn't a attack on Israel by me, it is a comparison of of weighing what is ok for one country isn't ok for another. You are just ultra paranoid and you think I am. I accept that these things exist but being Lied to and presented with one false flag operation after another makes one question as to "What is the motivation?"....There can only be one explanation. Control by groups and families who want it.Bottom line. Sorry, I'm not 007 and have acess to every classified document to put in your face but I do see more than the amount of coincidences and after the fact revelations from 20-50 years ago that show exasctly what the "Plan" is. You just want every detail laid out for you.Just like a Atheist. My buzzword of Cabal of International Bankers is just a symbolic concentration of these groups not some perfect term to describe all these powerbrokers. If your so knowledgable. Why didn't you know about bernie madoff, Enron or any other big white collar criminals. They existed without your personal knowledge but the evidence and their con games eventually were discovered. They were just chicken feed compared to the bigger liasrs and bilkers such as the Federal Reserve,D.O.D or NSA. |
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Date: 9/27/2009 5:02:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 51876
Not all Christens, Deb but many who perscribe to the John Hagee idea of the future.I live with one in Fiery Mom of 2 that is a endtimer and welcomes it because Christ will come and bring about a new age..what a crock, that everyone must die. maybe you don't believe that way but many do. |
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Date: 9/27/2009 5:44:00 PM
From Authorid: 12806
Why would you think that EVERYONE must die? |
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Date: 9/27/2009 7:54:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 51876
It's accept Christ or Die, that's the choice. |
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Date: 9/28/2009 9:03:00 AM
From Authorid: 11240
Along Raybone's answer: The "End Times" just doesn't equate to the "End of the World". I see you, Bru, answer Randy's stop watch post with a reference to "4th Dimension". I also see you make a lot of movie references. My thoughts on the "End Times" are more related to the movie about the last pregnant lady (the name escapes me) on earth due to some sort of catastrophic occurrence . . . God Bless. |
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Date: 9/28/2009 10:36:00 AM
From Authorid: 53284
Why would a Cabal of International bankers be pushing for war? For that matter is there such a Cabal? I think that many people find it easier to create some sort of structure to explain the functioning of the nations of the world then it is to recognize that there are many different people and views, that can depend upon the culture that you've been raised in, and when seen all together may not seem to make sense. Why are there still problems in the mid east? Israel was created more than 60 years ago. Why hasn't this been solved? Why are there still refugee camps for the Palestinians after 60 years? Why did the stock market crash? Why did the Real Estate bubble burst? Why did Bush get us into the war in Iraq. Does Iran pose a threat to Israel or the US? It would be nice if you could blame a single group (the Cabal of International Bankers) to explain the complexities of the world and international relations. However, my opinion, is that if there were such a powerful group, the we commoners would have no knowledge of it. It's not a secret if people know about it.  |
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Date: 9/28/2009 3:27:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 51876
War makes money...bankers lend money for weapons systems,rebuilding countries,transportation,energy acesss and food/water resources.. |
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Date: 9/28/2009 3:29:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 51876
A cabal is a number of people united in some close design, usually to promote their private views and interests in a church, state, or other community, often by intrigue. Cabals are sometimes secret societies composed of a few designing persons, and at other times are manifestations of emergent behavior in society or governance on the part of a community of persons who have well established public affiliation or kinship. The term can also be used to refer to the designs of such persons or to the practical consequences of their emergent behavior, and also holds a general meaning of intrigue and conspiracy. Its usage carries strong connotations of shadowy corners, back rooms and insidious influence; a cabal is more evil and selective than, say, a faction, which is simply selfish; because of this negative connotation, few organizations use the term to refer to themselves or their internal subdivisions. Amongst the exceptions is Discordianism, in which the term is used to refer to an identifiable group within the Discordian tradition |
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