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Date: 3/14/2009 6:23:00 AM From Authorid: 21435 Yep..When I was seventeen years old, I was sure I knew it all. Now, I'm not so sure. Interesting write up, Bruiex. Write on..... |
Date: 3/14/2009 6:29:00 AM ( From Author ) From Authorid: 51876 Thanks Kronk ! |
Date: 3/14/2009 6:36:00 AM From Authorid: 21923 Great post Bruiex. I've bookmarked this for future use! It never ceases to amaze me how today's mainstream "religion" has so watered down so many great truths of our past, and works so hard to even try to erase the truths of today, i.e. science. It bothers me today that so many Christians especially, practice and preach to you, but they don't understand the actual roots and foundations of their on religion. It is sad, but trying to get a alot of them to even accept the truth of The Council of Nicea is like beating your head against a wall, and it is something that is WELL historically documented. So sad that everyone needs everything so waterd down and put in a nice neat box that fits on a nice neat shelf. Continue writing my friend! |
Date: 3/14/2009 6:42:00 AM From Authorid: 54444 enlightening history lesson. But I love St Pats day because it is the only time I get to eat corn beef and cabbage. LOL. Heck I thought he threw potatoes at the snakes and started a potato famine...a lot I know. Were the Irish and Scots worshiping sky people back then or was that something different? Seems I nave a new history teacher. |
Date: 3/14/2009 6:47:00 AM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 51876
Thanks for the sipport. I am trying to learn to write concisly because it is hard to communicated deep thoughts and being understood, so elimanation of a lot of detail is needed with in a summary form. mmm it's breakfast time, pancakes and pears, TTYL. |
Date: 3/14/2009 7:06:00 AM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 51876
The Celtic people's worshipped elemental Gods but also nature gods also. There was Father God like Dagda and Mother God in Danu..The idea of monothesism was promoted by Jews and Romans.That is why Christianity evolved so easily there as both cultures were stepped in Men being the Rulers not Women aka Alexander's influence and Xerxes of the Persians. Celtic and Egyptian cultures never elevated one sex over another sex. Scholars argue that is why Constatine elimanated all the history pertaining to Jesus being married (Mary-Need?) and the possibility of many secret wifes.Jesus was bringing Women's role Politiclly into cultures in which women were treated a lesser beings. As used a bit in Davinchi's Code, the Dan Brown book. Islam again took that another step. |
Date: 3/14/2009 7:56:00 AM
From Authorid: 19613
A few points and questions. First of all, where is this idea coming from that Patrick’s real name was “Maewyn Succat”? I find it repeated on several internet articles but I cannot find a source anywhere. I find it highly suspicious, as well as the claim that he was born in England to a Roman army officer. I had been taught (by Irish history professors) that we know relatively little of Patrick’s childhood, we don’t even know for certain what country he was born in, apart from the fact that it was somewhere in Britain. Secondly, you might want to reserve some of your anger for a few other individuals. Patrick was not the first Christian missionary to come to Ireland. Before the arrival of Patricius, a man called Palladius had already been sent by the Church to combat the spread of the Pelagian heresy in Ireland. So while Patrick may have been responsible for much of it, it is unlikely that Ireland would not have become Christianised without him. Thirdly, if Patrick is really responsible for wiping out the druidic teachings, then how do you know that there was anything good about the druidic teachings in the first place? Most of the information we have about them comes from sources like the Romans (who make the claim that the druids practised human sacrifice.) Interesting post, though! |
Date: 3/14/2009 8:01:00 AM From Authorid: 19613 http://www.independent.ie/lifestyle/st-patricks-day/st-patrick-drove-out-the-pagans--not-the-snakes-1318905.html You might find that article interesting. |
Date: 3/14/2009 8:36:00 AM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 51876
You are right Dark Phoneix and what we know is by his own background.His arrival in Scotland and where his Celtic masters who bought him from the pirates said he a was captured roman and news abroad from hid Father's loss was recorded in Roman history.Wheter it is true or could still be argued but that's all I know. Why has the Celtic religon struck a cord with me. The knotwork symolizes ancient truths how we are bound together, like a tapestry into one being.God represents a communion with the one, the creative.In it's basics of a tri-fold world of being of 3 dimensions.There was at one time a highly advanced intelligece level on earth, this is not the first time technology has appeared on this earth. You are right that some of what we know about the Celtic people's comes from the Romans and Why is That. Because of Writing. Druids and Celts, ust like Native People's of the Earth have a Oral Tradition of Passing along knowledge. Not the magic formulas deciphered on paper. Contrary to ehat people believe about egyptians they had a oral history also, it was the self appointed god-folks who needed writing. Read "the Ancient Secret of the Flower of Life" and get back to me DP (Grins). |
Date: 3/14/2009 9:43:00 AM
From Authorid: 11240
Whenever I hear someone accusing a historical figure for the way things are today, I have to ask: If ALL of what happened didn't happen exactly they way it did, do you even have assurance that you would be here today to complain about it? Interconnectivity at it's roots, wherever that may be. Perhaps this has ALL unfolded the way it has for you (that's you, Bru) to solve a mystery! As far as having issues with "Christianity", my thought is that you have issues with "religion", which are two separate concepts. God Bless. |
Date: 3/14/2009 9:59:00 AM ( From Author ) From Authorid: 51876 Uh, I didn't blame just St. Patrick Deb, read a little closer. |
Date: 3/14/2009 11:43:00 AM From Authorid: 4995 Wow. I never knew that!!! He doesnt look that great in my eyes now either. Geez. |
Date: 3/14/2009 11:59:00 AM ( From Author ) From Authorid: 51876 I messed up on one section.It was not the Ulster cycle but the Tuatha de Dannen cycle. |
Date: 3/14/2009 7:40:00 PM
From Authorid: 35720
Deb, that's like someone saying they don't like shirts and then you saying back, "I don't think you have issues with shirts. I think you have issues with clothing.. they're two different things." Shirts are a sub-genre of clothing.. you don't have to have a distaste for all clothing to have a distaste for shirts. Same with religion and Christianity. Bruiex, to be honest I didn't know the first thing about St. Patrick before reading your post. It was an interesting read. |
Date: 3/15/2009 7:21:00 AM From Authorid: 11616 ST PATRICKS DAY, GREEN!!!! BUH HUM BUG...THE DAY MY FATHER PAST AWAY. ONE OF THE SADDEST DAYS OF MY LIFE. SORRY BRUIEX I GUESS IT HASNT BEEN A GOOD WEEK FOR ME. I WILL TRY TO MAKE MORE INTELLIGENT COMMENTS FOR NOW ON FOR YOUR POSTS. JUST NOT A GOOD TIME FOR ME. :ugs:: |
Date: 3/15/2009 9:14:00 AM From Authorid: 63931 glad to here your thoughts |
Date: 3/15/2009 3:24:00 PM
From Authorid: 11240
Uh. I read everything clearly including at least three comments on others' posts whereupon you referenced St. Patrick (including the one where you promised to write this post), the title of this post, and the post itself. That your main focus had other historical people and circumstances happening around him to compliment your disdain hardly discounts your disdain for him. My comment still stands although perhaps it would become more palatable to you if it had been phrased, "Whenever I hear someone accusing historical figures for the way things are today . . " Whatever the phrasing, I am firm in my intent that it and the ensuing comments were meant as openings for dialogue on any related subject that came up, an aspect of this site I was under the impression you were an advocate of. So, in that regard I offer this response to Rika: I do not construe Christianity as a sub-set of religion. Christianity is a sub-set of the belief in God, while Catholicism, Baptist, and Lutheran are man-made explanations (religions) which are based on that particular belief. Bru pretty much says the same thing in his post when he says, "True christianity has nothing to do with the thousands of variations in use today." Thus, when he said that, I could garner from that that he really wasn't so upset with the reality of Christianity as a belief in God, but with the practice of so-called Christian religions, which led to my comment. God Bless. |
Date: 3/15/2009 3:33:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 51876
As long as we are clear Deb, you explained it pretty well. Only thing I am saying is he is a Hated Figure, I am not blaming him for today. I also hate Nero,many Kings of England and George Custer who are all historical figures.Thanks for your reply. have ones I love too, Jesus is one of them. |
Date: 3/16/2009 3:16:00 PM From Authorid: 19613 I am curious as to how you manage to be a druid since much (most?) of druidic thought has been lost? |
Date: 3/16/2009 3:41:00 PM ( From Author ) From Authorid: 51876 has it? or are you not listening? |
Date: 3/16/2009 6:55:00 PM From Authorid: 19613 Well, you tell me… Where did you learn how to be a druid? |
Date: 3/16/2009 7:03:00 PM ( From Author ) From Authorid: 51876 It is too much info for a comment.Guess my secret life as a American Druid must be explained..it is the next logical step to unveiling myself. |
Date: 5/14/2009 10:22:00 AM From Authorid: 19682 Very interesting. |
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