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failing system rant

  Author:  63172  Category:(Discussion) Created:(12/30/2005 1:54:00 PM)
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My nephew is only a year younger than I am. He has lived with a woman for about three years. She has two kids. The girl is six and the boy is eight. They have only lived with them for about a year and a half. When they first got together he told her he didn't want kids so she called social services and told them to come and get the kids because she was stressed and was afraid she would hurt them.

About eight months later the little boy was diagnosed with adhd and they signed him up on a social security check. "Joe and Ann" heard about this and decided they would get the kids back because the money would "help them out." Well social services,being so defunct gave them back to her with no problems. She had to agree to take a month of parenting classes. She even told them that she would continue spanking them with paddles that Joe made out of 4 by 6 wood.

The kids get spanked and put on time outs for the least little thing. Joe broke a paddle on the little boys butt because he accidently squirted toothpaste on the bathroom sink. The little boy gets it worse. I have witnessed the little girl make up lies just to get him spanked. He also spent several weekends kneeling in the hallway,from Friday to Sunday night only getting up for bed and bathroom breaks.

Although they rarely get to go anywhere I take them to my house whenever they are allowed. I know social services have been called on them several times and nothing is ever done. They usually tell the callers to mind their own business. Their grandma,step grandma,several aunts and uncles have all called.

I love the kids but when they are at my house they think they suddenly have no rules. The little girl pushed my 17 month old son hard into the floor then lied and said the little boy did it. I saw her do it. I didnt tell on her because I didnt want her to get beat. The little boy doesnt do mean things but he is destructive. He tore my daughters bed apart and trashed her room because he lost his video game life.

I have no idea how to help these children. There is noone to intervene. I cant keep them here that much because I cant have them beating my children. The little boy kept pinching my daughter on the butt and I told him over and over that was not tolerated. I know they see their mom and her boyfriend doing things because the little girl described to me in graphic detail. I thought she was just talking about kissing but she knew it all.

I guess I am just frustrated because these are two children that the system has failed. I can see a big difference from them in the past three years. She went from a sweet child to one that is constantly trying to get her brother a spanking and hitting other kids and dogs. He went from a confident funny little guy to one that actually started shaking because he ripped a christmas bag. He also cries at the drop of a hat.

I will end my rant. Just had to get it out. I changed the names in case they go to this site.

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Date: 12/30/2005 2:22:00 PM  From Authorid: 60395    omg, honey im so sorry that you have to wittness this happen and i feel so horrible for the two children, i knows theres nothing i can do but i will pray!  
Date: 12/30/2005 3:34:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 63172    Ty Bass Chick. I just get so disgusted with the system some times. I dont know about other places but around here it just needs completely redone  
Date: 12/30/2005 3:49:00 PM  From Authorid: 63191    It is a shame that people are under the mistaken impression that the elusive "Children's Services" actually protects the children. Even worse, people have lost children for the simplest thing and your nephew's children aren't removed from a harmful environment. When the excuse is given to the media that their case load is more than they can handle, I am sick. That is NO excuse for the injury or death of a child. After so many years of this same thing going on all over, you would think SOMEONE in power would rethink that system and do something? My heart aches for those children who are in such situations. I feel your frustration and pain, Melissa. That doesn't help the children, but it's all I have. USMOM  
Date: 12/30/2005 4:14:00 PM  From Authorid: 28848    Go to their school and talk with the school nurse and counsilor. Eventually someone will listen and get some help for these kids. Knowing what you know, you can't just sit back and do nothing to help them. Don't take no for an anwser, keep talking until someone listens.  
Date: 12/30/2005 7:09:00 PM  From Authorid: 53052    this is horrible! is there any way you can get proof of these things(photos of bruises, kids sitting on the corner) maybe actually going into child protective services and straight out tell them that if they keep leaving these children there the parents may cause so much damage it wont every be able to be fixed  
Date: 12/31/2005 1:02:00 PM  From Authorid: 46486    Exactly like what Release Me said, go to the school. If the system would do anything, the school will.  
Date: 1/3/2006 9:32:00 PM  From Authorid: 12341    These children are being abused. When you wrote of the eight year boy having a wood paddle broke on his butt, for squirting toothpaste on the bathroom sink, that hurt my heart. I have an eight year grandson and granddaughter, a six year old grandson. I would kill anyone who beat them like this or tried to make them live this way, Yes, I would kill them before I allowed them to spend another day making these children live in fear and suffering like they are. The little boy "shakes" because he ripped a Christmas bag? Where are the grandparents? Where is anyone decent, who can sleep at night knowing these children are tortured by your nephew like this? Your nephew belongs in jail, forever, or as long as it takes for him to stop beating children with wood. If you don't help these children, who will? And who can live with this who has a conscience? This post made me physically sick and seeing all the hundreds of comments on some really stupid posts, I have to wonder... where are people who have an ounce of compassion, where are the people who should be screaming at someone to help these kids. They are living a horrible life. They are beaten, have no one who seems to intervene, and yet, there are so very few replies. Post about religion though, and everyone comes out with their tongue hanging out. Let an eight year old child get beaten with a board till it breaks on his behind and not much is muttered... USM is slacking or what? Besides that, YOU may have to stand up more for these kids, if you don't, how well can sleep at night. You changed the names in case they come to this site, I would post thier names, and anyone else that beats a kid like this. They deserve that others should know their crimes and no child should ever have to live in a house of fear like this. This post makes me physically sick and I hope that someone will help these children before it may be too late. The parent and boy friend are criminals and deserve to be treated as such until they either seek help or forfeit custody of these children. Again, anyone who ever hit or broke wooden board across my grandkids bottom would die, quickly, but then again, I would never allow such atrocities agaisnt any child if I were aware. The eight year old was made to "kneel" for an entire weekend from Friday to Sunday night with no mention of food. I treat my animals far better and would consider these two the lowest class of human waste I've been privy to hear of. Do something now, while you can. I can't believe Kentucky is this backwoods that they still allow children to be treated worse than dogs and parents are allowed to keep them for welfare checks or SSI payments. How disgusting.  
Date: 1/3/2006 9:41:00 PM  From Authorid: 12341    Is Kentucky really this backwoodsy, that kids can be beaten, tortured, have paddles broke on their bones and probably far worse, because no one give a good care? What is wrong here people? You come out in droves on some posts to chant and pray and la de da your comments but this kid who is being beaten with wooden sticks and spends entire weekends "kneeling" an eight year old? My eight year old is out riding his four wheeler in the snow, so is the six year old. They get food, and they don't "kneel" all weekend> Where is there any compassion for these kids? No names should be changed, if they are guilty, they deserve to be charged in a court of law and I hope they never have a chance to harm another child like this.  
Date: 1/3/2006 9:45:00 PM  From Authorid: 12341    Poster, if you want to help these kids, then do it. Don't stop until they are removed from the abusive home they are in. Otherwise, you will never stop feeling what you feel. Just posting to 'get it out", is not enough, this is more than serious. Kids are seriously being injured and harmed, both physically and emotionally. I could not live with myself if I did not do everything possible to help them. Especially the little boy.  
Date: 1/3/2006 10:09:00 PM  From Authorid: 12341    I am begging you to please help these children, because you care. Please don't stop trying to fing help for them, they are living in fear and chaos, they have no stable live if they are being punished for such little incidents. They need a savior, and you may be the one who is being called, keep watch over these little ones. Don't forget their fear, and don'r forget what they are living with, help them as much as you can.  
Date: 1/3/2006 10:14:00 PM  From Authorid: 12341    Typos... but I think one can understand the message...  
Date: 1/5/2006 8:06:00 PM  From Authorid: 12341    If you want to help these children, then please help me help them. I have many people who can intervene even in another state. I assure you that you need not be involved but I would indeed follow up on this. This post was heart wrenching, I considered my own eight year grandchildren and how I could even stand them being tortured like this. I could not and would never allow it. I have not or will not forget this post and intend to continue further investagation on my own. I have many associates in health care and several detectives I have treated over the years who may help, plus my family has means to further investigate cases like this. I simply can't let go of an eight year being brutalized like this by your nephew and the child's mother. If this this child is shaking and crying "at the drop of a hat", I have every intention of spending as much time as possible finding out more who is responsible. I can't imagine that a child should be living like this. I wish the mother and nephew did come here. I would love for them to know they are exposed and may pay for the consequence of child abuse by spending years in jail. I am going to send a copy of this to a good friend who works for our local congresswoman Marcy Kaptur and if things are as you say, we shall see, because no child should be living like this.  
Date: 1/9/2006 8:59:00 PM  From Authorid: 12341    They act out at your home because they are small and they know they won't be beaten or abused. Your nephew is the abuser, you know that. He beat the boy with a 4 by 6 paddle on his butt till it broke, this child cries at the drop of a hat, he shakes with no control, he has no one, he is a little boy being beaten, made to "kneel" for an entire weekend. This post makes me physically sick, I have been since I first read it. WHAT are you going to do to help these kids? Post names, post whatever you have to, because people who beat kids with 4 by 5 boards need to be "named", you have not replied to this post and that disgusts me. Just how much empathy do you really have for these kids? You have told us the nightmare life they live, but you blame "a system" that is expected to KNOW these details. You see this stuff, you know it is going on, why aren't you posting their names. They are dung, quit blaming the system and do something to help this little boy and his sister. No kid should be hit with a board. I want to just get my hands on these two. handcuff them, and lock them up. I don't know what is worse, child sexual preditors, or child tomenters, who beat and demoralize little ones until they "shake". IF YOU know all this and you continue to post online instead of going to the police or proper authorities, then you are just as guilty. WHY do you worry if these two come here. Let them know they are being found out. They are taking these babies for SSI payments and then abusing them, they are scum,they should be in jail and would be if proof were given to the state. Your nephew is a piece of crap who deserves nothing but jail time. He is sick, depraved, and a child abuser. No child should be beaten like this, and poster, I think you could do more and won't, or haven't. Put yourself in this child's life, and feel what a eight year feels when they have a wooden board broke on their body, plus crying and shaking all the time, feel what he feels when he has to "kneel" all weekend. My grandsons rode their four wheelers all weekend and had a good time. They ate when they wanted, and they have never been "Beat" with a board" or hit at all. Why is it that some people have to hit kids? You need to name names, otherwise, I doubt your sincerity.  
Date: 1/9/2006 9:05:00 PM  From Authorid: 12341    Actually, until you name names it is easy to see to see where you stand on this issue. Your nephew belongs in jail. IN JAIL! You need to understand that. He is a child abuser and beats kids. He should be in prison. Your family is "hiding" him, when they should be exposing him.  
Date: 1/9/2006 9:06:00 PM  From Authorid: 12341    And you need to answer this post since you "care so much".  

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