Date: 3/15/2005 9:17:00 PM
From Authorid: 38751
i think they have a right to be involved when it becomes a risk to other ... driving while on drugs is a HUGE risk to others  |
Date: 3/15/2005 9:19:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 57074
yeah I agree, Devil With a Halo  |
Date: 3/15/2005 9:25:00 PM
From Authorid: 50434
No because it is an evasion of privacy, but on the other hand the shcool are responsable for these kids who are at there schools. If there are kids doing drugs and driving to school they pose a risk to many others, also it jepordizes there school work and others school work if they are disruptive in the classroom. Then you have to think about the risk of them selling drugs to others at school. So as you can see the pros out way the cons in this matter, but people shoudnt really have a big problem with this seein we would be looking out for the best interest for everyones children.  |
Date: 3/15/2005 9:31:00 PM
From Authorid: 36704
I don't see a problem with it and the school has the right to do it, if they choose.  |
Date: 3/15/2005 9:32:00 PM
From Authorid: 50864
Yes when others may be at risk as a person on drugs getting behind the wheel of a car  |
Date: 3/15/2005 9:36:00 PM
From Authorid: 12341
Kids who aren't taking drugs have nothing to worry about. Invasion of privacy, sounds more like " stay out of my business, I'll do what I want", let them test, only ones who protest are those who most likely have something to hide. Too bad that it has come too this, but obviously the schools wouldn't be doing it without some justification.  |
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Date: 3/15/2005 9:42:00 PM
From Authorid: 12341
Lots of employers insist on drug testing. I have no problem with it. Whatsoever. Seems to be more and more an issue within our society. I have no issues with that and can't see why it's any different than a metal detector. Considering where we are now in society. Anyone who objects will most likely be more someone who has something to hide, at least in my opinion. Take it or leave it, that's where we are now. |
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Date: 3/15/2005 9:42:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 57074
To me..It does seem like an invasion of privacy but then again, Its best to test because these kids proabaly drive while they are on drugs |
Date: 3/15/2005 9:45:00 PM
From Authorid: 49689
Absolutley OK in my book..If they test positive who's to say they weren't under the influence on school grounds? Also I might add that if they test positive they should also have their driving privleges revoked....  |
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Date: 3/15/2005 9:49:00 PM
From Authorid: 49689
LOL @ the "Invasion of privacy" |
Date: 3/15/2005 9:54:00 PM
From Authorid: 62146
drug testing can ruen some peopels lives, and at times they get the test wrong. I think fora serious job like doctor fireman or somthing dangerous drug testing is vitaul but for soem jobs it is not needed at all why bother.  |
Date: 3/15/2005 10:06:00 PM
From Authorid: 24319
Screw the whole privacy thing. I think it would be a great thing.  |
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Date: 3/15/2005 10:12:00 PM
From Authorid: 24319
Let me expaned on my last comment a little bit. Anytime that anyone gets into a automobile high or drunk they are risking not only their lives, but everyone elses as well. That is why I say "screw privacy". I think life out weighs privacy. And, anything that can be done, short of taking automobiles away, to further insure the safty of all drivers, I am all for. |
Date: 3/15/2005 10:13:00 PM
From Authorid: 46486
A teen that drives in my town and passing a drug test is um, very very unlikely. lmao so that would never ever happen in my town. I think its invasion of privacy.  |
Date: 3/15/2005 10:16:00 PM
From Authorid: 52155
"I think life out weighs privacy." <-- I completely agree.  |
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Date: 3/15/2005 10:18:00 PM
From Authorid: 46486
I think drug testings for jobs are absolutley fine, but I don't think there should be one for school. But thats my opinion, thats how I grew up in my town with drugs and everything (Not saying I'm ON drugs I know lots of people who smoke a lot of weed and do cocain and things like that.) |
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Date: 3/15/2005 10:19:00 PM
From Authorid: 52155
I (and the other employees) get drug tested randomly at work. is that an invasion of privacy? no, what it is is an expectation I have of my employeers to provide a safe work enviroment for me and my co workers. if one of them is drugged up, then they shouldn't be working there. |
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Date: 3/15/2005 10:20:00 PM
From Authorid: 52155
FA, why should school be any differnt that a job? it is still an illegal substance... |
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Date: 3/15/2005 10:21:00 PM
From Authorid: 52155
only difference I see is that school involves minors... |
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Date: 3/15/2005 10:21:00 PM
From Authorid: 46486
I remember working at the grocery store one time a year ago or so and she came into worked stoned and was making and idiot oughta herself at work infront of customers saying "I am so high." It was a really bad scene and that I did report. I could never imagine going to work on something thats just absolutley wrong. |
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Date: 3/15/2005 10:25:00 PM
From Authorid: 24319
FA, I too am from a town that has a lot of drugs. All but one of my friends from high school were one some sort of drug. My sister and brother have been hooked to all kinds of drugs and my sister still smokes weed on a daily basis. More than half of the people I know who were/are on drugs have been in some kind of auto accident. An accident that could have been prevented if they had enough brains not to do drugs and get into an automobile. How would anyone feel that says "it invades privacy" feel if some person who was high on something plowed into the vehicle you were driving and, God forbid, something other than a dent happened? All because a drug test couldn't be preformed because it would invated their privacy? More measures need to be taken when dealing with people and our roads. That also includes alcohol. |
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Date: 3/15/2005 10:27:00 PM
From Authorid: 46486
True Eddo. But like I said its just what I grew up with in my town on like monkey see monkey do kind of thing, its just I know a lot of teenagers who are into drugs around 16 year olds obviously when they graduate (if they do, the drop out rate is high in my town) and when they go out into the real world and get a job which would require a drug screening and they fail then thats their problem. I think that let them do what they want now and let it be a lesson for them to learn later. I have a friend who is a avid pot smoker and does cocain he's 16 maybe 17 now and he also sells to, but you know when/if he graduates he'll be hurting for money and selling won't be helping him to live and survive on and when he gets a job he'll fail the drug screening, and there are a lot of places that do have drug screenings thats his problem. I just say let them learn their lessons after graduation. |
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Date: 3/15/2005 10:30:00 PM
From Authorid: 46486
People who do drive under the influence of anything are crazy and idiots. But would a drug screening even stop people driving under the influence of anything? Probably not. |
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Date: 3/15/2005 10:30:00 PM
From Authorid: 52155
and in the meantime just let them drive around stoned? i don't think so.. |
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Date: 3/15/2005 10:31:00 PM
From Authorid: 52155
ya know, noone says that as a teenager, you have to have a drivers license. Last time I checked, it was still a revokable priviledge, not a requirement... |
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Date: 3/15/2005 10:33:00 PM
From Authorid: 46486
But if they are trying to do a drug screening for schools imagine what about if you went to get your license and get your license re-newed and had to do a drug screening? Obviously people wouldn't really remember 2 or 4 years later that they would have a drug screening for their re-newals. |
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Date: 3/15/2005 10:35:00 PM
From Authorid: 46486
There is a cop here in my town and he has catched many stoned teenagers driving around and I've heard that most of them don't get tickets only get warnings "If I ever catch you again." and if he does catch them again he'll say the same line again "If I ever catch you again." Its pretty sad. |
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Date: 3/15/2005 10:41:00 PM
From Authorid: 24319
I have to ask. Who cares? Drugs are illegal. You get caught, sucks to be you. Shouldn't be doing them anyway (not you, the person). I am not going to feel bad for some drug addict who gets his license taken away because he was risking other people's lives. |
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Date: 3/15/2005 10:43:00 PM
From Authorid: 24319
Nor am I going to care how they feel or what they think about it. |
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Date: 3/15/2005 10:44:00 PM
From Authorid: 46486
Very true, Carrie. |
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Date: 3/15/2005 10:47:00 PM
From Authorid: 52155
I gotta agree with Carrie again. If drunks, druggies, whomever, could guarantee that when they get in an automobile wasted that the only ones they are gonna kill are themselves, then i would say have at it. But, it is innocent people they kill, and because of the drugs or alcohol in their system, many times the inebrieated ones walk away with minor injuries, while the ones they hit are the ones that die. sad, and I don't pity the users... |
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Date: 3/15/2005 10:58:00 PM
From Authorid: 52155
ya know, I had a friend in high school that was randomly drug tested by his mother. He hated it, but he had been in trouble with drugs int he past and she was helping him to stay clean. If more parents would take that kind of role in their kids lives, alot of htis wouldn't be an issue. |
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Date: 3/15/2005 11:02:00 PM
From Authorid: 46486
Wow, really Eddo? Thats a good parent.. smart parent too. |
Date: 3/16/2005 12:09:00 AM
From Authorid: 37843
I think if the school has probable cause to drug test a student it would be ok, but not every kid just because they drive. There are a lot of druggies who ride school busses too. I don't know if schools should be allowed to drug test a student or not.  |
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Date: 3/16/2005 12:12:00 AM
From Authorid: 37843
I agree w/ Carrie and Eddo too. |
Date: 3/16/2005 1:36:00 AM
From Authorid: 62383
I think its a bigger problem now then when I was in school. If they had tests when I was in school it probably would of kept me out of a little trouble. I dont think its fair they test only kids that "drive" they should test all or none.. and they should test teachers too.   |
Date: 3/16/2005 2:48:00 AM
From Authorid: 58308
Yes. They should test the crap out of them. Just this year, a teenaged girl was caught with marajuana in her car on school campus and a boy was caught selling it from his little canary yellow truck on school campus. Yes, I'd say test them.  |
Date: 3/16/2005 4:28:00 AM
From Authorid: 62876
I am a big believer in doing whatever it takes to keep kids from doing drugs. Many companies test adults for drugs to keep their job, and that is acceptable.  |
Date: 3/16/2005 5:44:00 AM
From Authorid: 3648
Well I see no problem with the testing...The kids crying "evasion of privacy" are probably guilty of it...I think in today's world we need to take the needed steps to protect our children and ourselves...Testing may prevent a accident waiting to happen.  |
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Date: 3/16/2005 10:33:00 AM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 57074
You all have good points here and I do agree if they are going to test students then they should test them all! I really don't care one way or another because its no skin off my back. I don't do drugs, never have and hopfully I never wil. If it involves innocent lives then yeah they should be able to invade our privacy..Im a senior in high school and I know quite a few kids who are always dealing drugs in school.. |
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Date: 3/16/2005 11:06:00 AM
From Authorid: 46486
Vampires, kids deal drugs in your school? What idiots. Just last night I saw a drug deal right on the corner of my town went back around kids were gone and a cop was sitting across the street. I can only imagine where they just may have went. |
Date: 3/16/2005 12:37:00 PM
From Authorid: 22080
i dont think its right and if they do do this why dont they go ahead and start giving UA's to teachers who drive to school. i personally would be offended if the school did this considering everything i own has something relating to being drug free, poison free or straightedge on it  |
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Date: 3/16/2005 12:38:00 PM
From Authorid: 22080
and on top of that lets go ahead and give weekly UA's to bus drivers for the school, city and county. well lets not stop there, lets give it to the parents who are driving their kids to school also. |
Date: 3/16/2005 12:44:00 PM
From Authorid: 2030
Minors don't have privacy rights, or many rights at all for that matter. Just the way it is. And if you don't like it, well just wait a few years and you can join the adult club for the rest of your life.  |
Date: 3/16/2005 12:50:00 PM
From Authorid: 27046
Drug testing is expensive. I don't think I am too keen on drug testing students to determine their ability to drive to and from school. Chances are if there are any kids intoxicating themselves enough to not be capable to drive a vehicle with their drug of choice, then someone within the school building has to notice their condition. It's a huge expense on the school taxpayers that will have to foot the bill on that one.  |
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Date: 3/16/2005 1:21:00 PM
From Authorid: 52155
I agree with Jestr that school bus drivers should be checked regualarly, and out here, I believe that they are. and there wouldn't be any complaint from me if teachers were checked regularly as well. |
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Date: 3/16/2005 4:46:00 PM
From Authorid: 22080
BCAR how would you honestly feel if you were a kid going through this? nothing to hide but feel offended that they dont trust you and p.s. joining the adult club tomorow and ill have the same beliefs tomorow. |
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Date: 3/17/2005 7:08:00 AM
From Authorid: 2030
jester I've been a kid, and I felt at the time that the whole world was against me. I grew out of it. |
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Date: 3/17/2005 7:39:00 PM
From Authorid: 22080
oh yes, i feel the whole world is out to get me. lets be realistic, if youre preparing us for the real world dont do this, i mean honestly how often in your life do you take a UA? i know i take one for my yearly physical but nothing other than that. |
Date: 3/18/2005 11:54:00 AM
From Authorid: 61013
I think its right because that way the kids will be safer when they drive coz then if they have 'drugs' in their system they wont be allowed to drive and then that'll mean less wrecks on the road but i doubt that they'll really do it.  |
Date: 3/21/2005 10:31:00 PM
From Authorid: 28623
I would like to say its right, but there are so many reasons why its not,, such as false positives and second hand. Also it can show up in your urine for up to 5 weeks and even longer in your hair so if someone was to per say have a little toke on the weekend, the test would show positive despite the fact that at the time they aren’t high and there for wouldn't be driving high... also there a lots of things out there that someone could take to flush out there systems and eventually one of the kids are going to ether no it or figure it out and then the test wouldn't even work making it a waste of tax payers money....besides that I don’t even think its legal for them to demand a drug test, and even if they did it’s a persons constitutional right to say NO!  |
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Date: 3/21/2005 10:33:00 PM
From Authorid: 28623
Also i think that first the government should take care of drunk driving before they poke there nose in an issue that rarely happens... |
