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Do "Thoughts" Become Real, Tangable, SOLID Things?

  Author:  15070  Category:(Debate) Created:(6/11/2003 7:53:00 PM)
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Do thoughts, ideas, spoken words, or intentions, become REAL, things? Do they take on a "life of their own" so-to-speak?

I am thinking, YES. Based on experiments with group thought, I think "thoughts", those little electromagnetic impulses within the brain, can indeed bring about "cause-and-effect".

For example:

>>>Mindful meditation during illness. Cancerous Tumors have been shrunk, or even disappeared, when patients were taught the benefit of mindful meditation. The benefits far outway the so-called "placebo effect". During meditation, a patient will visualize little pac man-type things eating away at the tumor(s).This has been particularly successful with Children.

>>>In 2000, when Hurricane Irene was headed for the Florida coastline (trust me, I was at the projected Ground Zero), Geroge Noory, of "Coast-To-Coast A.M." talk show, told us, to "project" thoughts to "turn" the Hurricaine. Shortly after the show ended, the Hurricane did INDEED turn, missing the Gulf Coast of Florida COMPLETELY! Now, Hurricane can be unpredicable. HOWEVER, I doubt there was a family near me, without our radios on, and we expected the Hurricane to hit land within HOURS, of it's sudden turn.

>>>Both the KGB & the CIA believed enough in the potential of the Human Brain, that both agencies performed all kinds of "Mind-Control" experiments. One experiment, concerned communication between Twins, in different rooms. Now, unless thoughts become actual, soild "things", how can people pick up thoughts via E.S.P.?

>>>Magic(k). Those who practice Magic(k) understand the idea that our "thoughts" become little living things. Living, meaning they take on a life of their own. This is the theory behind PSI-balls. That is a skill where a person concentrates their energy into a little ball (I form mine inbetween my hands), and "send them forth".

For those who believe in the power of prayer, isn't it possible that our OWN thoughts, become "healers"? I mean, yes, you are asking a diety for assistance, BUT, maybe our own thoughts have healing, or hurting properties?

>>>Think of Curses..they say the power of "curses" are suggesion. That would be simplistic, if not for the fact, people have been cursed, WHO DIDN'T EVEN KNOW ABOUT THE CURSE, suffer symptoms.

So, what do you think? Imagination? Or Brain waves becoming a "Real" thing?

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Date: 6/11/2003 8:28:00 PM  From Authorid: 57232    I want to someday ...maybe... publish one of my books. I have a big problem with starting them and never finishing them. There is one that I've been working on since high school and it based on how the power of this girls thoughs can conjure up henchmen to do her bidding to carry out her revenge vendettas. I need to pull that dusty think out and start writing on that one I guess. I last gave it a second glance when I was 22 or so I and felt it was a good writing for someone of my age then. Thanks for the post.  
Date: 6/11/2003 8:30:00 PM  From Authorid: 57232    I'm a stickler for errors and I had a lot in my reply, I'm really sleepy and should go to bed! Just wanted to mention that, you can delete it if you want. * girl's *thoughts *dusty thing  
Date: 6/11/2003 9:00:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 15070    LOL..I understand B.Monkey..sometimes I look at my replies to something & go "oh, oh....typos". I would like to read that book when you finish it. Sounds like you have an excellent beginning to it. Goodnight & see you around.  
Date: 6/11/2003 9:12:00 PM  From Authorid: 6915    LSG......good post. It does make alot of sense....but say that our thoughts dont turn into anything...our power and energy is just re-directed?  
Date: 6/11/2003 9:13:00 PM  From Authorid: 17014    That is part of our sixth sense....we have the power of control, if we truly believe in what we want to accomplish. So few people know how to use their sixth sense, or try to project it into a purposeful and useful knowledge, that people don't always believe it even exists. The power of suggestion is part of our sixth sense too.   
Date: 6/11/2003 9:42:00 PM  From Authorid: 21867    Visualise...actualise. I totally believe that thought can create action without direct 'physical' influence. Peace,  
Date: 6/11/2003 11:02:00 PM  From Authorid: 62066    Are you by any chance aware of the thought form "tulpas" created by Buddhist monks in extreme mediatation? These are thoughts in made into physical beings, that have to be "thought away". Also on the subject, my mother once worked at a hospital in Australia and she treated a man who had been "pointed at" by "the bone" to death (i.e cursed) by an Aborigine (sp) witch doctor (or its Australian equivalate (sp)). He pointed a bone at him, and he died of the affects. Also some Aboriginal Australians can "sing" others to death. When this happens the victim hears singing in his or her head and eventually dies of the curses affect. In short, I do believe that thoughts can be made real. Oh, and please excuse my typos.  
Date: 6/11/2003 11:04:00 PM  From Authorid: 12341    Absolutely! Self actualization, yes, but cursing someone like you say when they don't even know, and the curse becoming real? Good, very good question, and intersting.  
Date: 6/11/2003 11:06:00 PM  From Authorid: 12341    *Interesting* MadMC, very interesting!  
Date: 6/11/2003 11:14:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 15070    Mad MC that is cool. Thanks for the information. No, I didn't know about Tulpa's. But, my friends, who follow Eastern Religion, have told me about Vedah's (hope I spelled that right). They are little carriers of the "Truth", and they can punish & reward. I might be mistaken, but I thought that's what they told me. Because I told them their Vedah's (sp?) sounded like my "Elementals"  
Date: 6/12/2003 10:33:00 AM  From Authorid: 54987    Yes I totally agree with everything you say. I believe thoughts create tangible things. Everything that is man-made around us started out as a thought in a person's mind. Spontaneous healing does occur. I have had experience of that. Government mind control - yes this is true also. However, it is a huge area. It has been found that the tv is a big source of subliminal mind control techniques. Even the media, i.e. news, employs those tactics. It's all a business. Advertising, assassins, news, and other things, all manipulated by mind control. The techniques are simple, the main thing being repitition. It is possible to compartmentalize the human mind, like the partitioning of a computers memory. These compartments can be activated by triggers which are usually phrases. It's like a person can become a completely different person when one of the compartments are activated. Anyway mind control is a big subject. Go research it.  
Date: 6/12/2003 7:30:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 15070    thank you, Koolade....I will do that.  
Date: 6/13/2003 5:28:00 AM  From Authorid: 48809    Yes, it is true that thoughts are things... a form of energy , and that through it's use we are able to create new situations etc. for ourselves and others too. We hear many accounts of how people have been healed from diseases that are ordinarily fatal and how someone has achieved their goal by concentrating and visualizing upon something they wanted. When we learn to understand and to direct this force toward what we wish to accomplish... the outcome can be awesome! When we use this energy for something we want to happen ... we should always see in our minds that it has already happened. It must be remembered too, that when we use this force to do harm to others , we will see that it will always find it's way back into our own life!  
Date: 6/13/2003 10:34:00 AM  From Authorid: 62060    hmmmmmm....Im *thinking* of a big pile of money just in front of me....  
Date: 6/14/2003 7:08:00 AM  From Authorid: 50435    There's more to it than just "thought." We all have been programmed to see the world in a certain way. We don't see with our eyes...we see with our brains. It has been proven that information that is presented to the eyes is "filtered" through the brain before it is perceived. What does this mean? It means that reality is what we perceive it to be. There are documented cases of people materializing objects "out of thin air." How? How can you get something from nothing? What about the human aura? Psychokinesis? Telepathy? We are programmed to perceive the world a certain way. If we can "deprogram" ourselves, we will be capable of abilities that we can't even at the current time fathom.  
Date: 6/14/2003 6:14:00 PM  From Authorid: 37872    Absolutely! Everything that exists today in our world had a thought that preceded it. We are still making amazing things happen with the thoughts of Einstein. Our governments constantly affect our lives with thier thoughts and opinions manifesting into real things. You turned a good thought into a post. The few things that you mentioned here may be the harder things to prove and do; but as you see it is a possibility.  
Date: 6/14/2003 7:48:00 PM  From Authorid: 54987    Right on Gallytuck! Right on.  
Date: 6/18/2003 1:54:00 PM  From Authorid: 39737    Gallytuck something like that has happened to me before. For example if i were to take a glance at something i might see a flash of color. Or ( i just tried this right now and i can not do it anymore... ) well i would blink really fast right? and then when i look around i would see little things floating around the room and eventually disapearing only to have a different one reappear. I asked someone about that but they told me that it was just some thing about my eyes adjusting, i think it was cook seeing as how to i never saw those things before.
  
Date: 6/19/2003 9:13:00 PM  From Authorid: 26598    I very much agree with your ponderings on thought forms. There is a thriving market for affirmation books. The one I have been using to counter negative money thoughts. It goes," I chose to have an abundance of prosperity." How is it working? Well, I have been finding lots of loose change in parking lots. lol its a begining.  

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