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ANSWERS TO THE DEAD BODY IN WIZARD OF OZ!!!

  Author:  55023  Category:(Discussion) Created:(6/17/2002 8:25:00 PM)
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I just visited a website, and this is what they had to say about my last question about the "hanging man" in the wizard of oz.

It's true that you can see a shadowy figure fluttering in the background at the end of the scene in the Tin Woodman's forest, just as Dorothy, the Scarecrow, and the Tin Woodman are marching offscreen to the strains of "We're Off to See the Wizard." And if you ever get a chance to see the film projected onto the big screen of a movie theater, you can quite clearly see that it is a stork flapping its wings. (Other exotic birds sharp-eyed viewers can also see in that forest are a toucan, a crane, and a peacock.) Let me say that again to make it perfectly clear to those who still believe it's a hanging man:

IT IS A STORK FLAPPING ITS WINGS. The problem is, most people today don't see The Wizard of Oz on the big screen, they watch it on television or videotape. And the scan lines that make a TV picture possible do the disservice of making the picture less clear than on a movie screen. The small size of most TV screens and the lack of clear prints before 1989 doesn't help, either. So on a television screen, the stork is not very clear. And for some reason this shadowy figure passed into urban legend as a hanging man (although some also thought it was a stagehand accidentally caught in the shot, or the Wicked Witch still lurking in the background) -- despite the fact that studio security was tighter than usual on Oz, and it's extremely unlikely that a major studio like MGM wouldn't notice such a macabre sight, or allow it to be included in one of its highest profile pictures. Besides, most of those trees were on a painted backdrop, and the rest were artificial, and thus too fragile to hang from. And towards the end of the scene, all three actors look directly at the object in question. If it was something that wasn't supposed to be there, especially something so macabre, doesn't it make sense that at least one of them would alert the crew and stop filming right then and there? Don't forget, there would be a lot of people on the set watching what was going on, with the director and his assistants, the cameramen, the lighting crew, and so forth. Would all of them not notice something suspicious?

Some amusing variants of this story have surfaced:

The hanging man was one of the Munchkins -- unlikely, as the forest scenes were actually shot before the Munchkinland scenes, and the little people playing the Munchkins hadn't arrived in town at that point. The man hanging himself is the director's son, upset that he didn't get a part in The Movie or on the crew -- impossible, as Victor Fleming only had two young daughters at the time. MGM was forced to leave the shot in, as they couldn't afford to reshoot the scene -- extremely unlikely, as MGM was the biggest studio of the day, and could well afford another take. The man who hanged himself was the grandfather of the boy who became the ghost in Three Men and a Baby, another popular Hollywood urban legend. The stork was added in later to mask the hanging -- well, then, couldn't they have made the stork clearer?

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Date: 6/17/2002 8:26:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 55023    well, this may or may not be true... but im going to watch the movie later to find out!  
Date: 6/17/2002 8:29:00 PM  From Authorid: 47699    This is an interesting post!  
Date: 6/17/2002 8:31:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 55023    hehe, thanks!  
Date: 6/17/2002 8:32:00 PM  From Authorid: 49459    Neat.  
Date: 6/17/2002 8:32:00 PM  From Authorid: 50758    Well, this was cool to learn! Thanks!  
Date: 6/17/2002 8:32:00 PM  From Authorid: 609    Thanks for posting this Ill repeat what I said in the other post about the 3 men and a baby ghost, it was a movie cut out that was put there by accident, it wasnt really a ghost. lol...dont you love how these rumors start lol.  
Date: 6/17/2002 8:34:00 PM  From Authorid: 42886    well...i msged u with the info and i hope u can see it 2. it sure looks like a man and i don't know why it was left in the movie during the final decisions.  
Date: 6/17/2002 8:36:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 55023    this is all so interesting! i had never heard the three men and a baby one, and now i have three versions! plus ive heard dozens of those disney "sneak ins!" thanks, you all are being so generous with your info.  
Date: 6/17/2002 8:48:00 PM  From Authorid: 54060    gosh i didnt know that..thanks for tellin us..very interesting thanks for sharing it...Gingie  
Date: 6/17/2002 8:48:00 PM  From Authorid: 33922    LOL...IT WAS BIG BIRD...OMG!...:P.I didnt think they would show a dead guy...lol  
Date: 6/17/2002 8:49:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 55023    youre welcome!  
Date: 6/17/2002 9:10:00 PM  From Authorid: 14182    im still convinced that someone did hang themselves...ive watched that scene over and over and over and over...on new tv's and older tv's...i had borrowed a friends older recording of the tape...when it was aired early in the 80's...and i can make out a ladder and then the body dropping...i do not see any type of bird at all...so im still convinced it is someone hanging themselves...and i heard that later they did add the stork..but i never got a chance to see that version  
Date: 6/17/2002 9:16:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 55023    hmmm... definetely something to ponder!  
Date: 6/17/2002 9:47:00 PM  From Authorid: 55235    Hopefully this post cleared things up for some people
Sassy Nik~
Date: 6/17/2002 9:51:00 PM  From Authorid: 53052    back in those days they may not have realised that it made it into the final cut until the negitives were returned and previewed by that time the set they used was already striked down and cleaned up and would cost them thousands to put back together in man time and costs and they could never get it EXACT even from looking at the print they were also very overbudget with this movie already and heald it off for months and took far far longer then it should have taken what was also putting them in the hole by thousands upon thousands, i wouldn't be surprised if someone did hang themselves and they are covering it up back when that movie was made the studios were like town's within themselves and often covered up things it was common place to cover up  
Date: 6/17/2002 10:09:00 PM  From Authorid: 20956    Wow, i'd never even heard of this!! Kinda similar to the 'ghost boy' in Three Men and a Baby i guess. Has anyone seen that? Mannn thats creepy!! ....  

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